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To buy my white daughter a brown doll - thats OK right?

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Capaldifan94 · 25/04/2023 16:41

Just that really..

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ComeTheFuckOnBridgett · 25/04/2023 16:52

Of course she can get any doll she wants... even boy dolls!

Capaldifan94 · 25/04/2023 16:54

Whatsthefrequencykenny · 25/04/2023 16:45

We did as she picked it out in the store but then I gave it away. Didn't want to be accused of cultural appropriation.

Thats what I was worried about 😔

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SparklyBlackKitten · 25/04/2023 16:55

Rediculous question.

@Yerroblemom1923 my god. Are you for real.

What has the world come too ...

DiscoDragon · 25/04/2023 16:56

It's fine, my daughter has Barbies of all skin tones and ones in wheelchairs and she even got a Creepy Ken recently as she was concerned her Barbie world was unrealistic with no men in it!

Wenfy · 25/04/2023 16:56

White people buying black dolls is often why they’re more expensive and in shorter supply for black children. But that’s not your problem. You should definitely buy one.

Newnamenewname109870 · 25/04/2023 16:57

I’d say absolutely fine, but when I was a kid (90s) I had a brown doll. Some friends from school came over and their mums were very weird about it (they were black). They thought my parents were trying to make a point. I guess some parents are! My parents just picked it up because it was on the end of the shelf and I wanted it 😂

Iris1976 · 25/04/2023 16:58

My doll obsessed DD's favourite doll was a black reborn.She's white.

ShannonMcFarland · 25/04/2023 16:59

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I have never seen a black or brown person with Down syndrome.

HorribleNecktie · 25/04/2023 16:59

My DD had one for a while when she was small, she got it in IKEA, they had 3 with different skin colour and hair and the brown doll was the one she chose.

Singerleon · 25/04/2023 17:01

My DD has dolls of all races, sexes and body types so that the dolls she plays with accurately reflect our local community. Surely it only reinforces stereotypes to solely have white dolls.
Also when we have play dates it gives other children a choice of dolls to play with, the visiting children are not always white.

Capaldifan94 · 25/04/2023 17:01

Its just a normal doll yes, the boy baby born doll.

DD has friends from all backgrounds and just doesn't see colour like that. We live in a really diverse city and are a mixed race family ourselves (I'm British, the children are British/Thai and my brother and his half siblings are British/Indian and Indian) so we all have varying skin tones. DD has black friends she's v close to at nursery who she'll be going up to primary with in September.

It was cultural appropriation i was worried about after DM made the comment.

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cabbagesandkingsandbeeswax · 25/04/2023 17:02

Wenfy · 25/04/2023 16:56

White people buying black dolls is often why they’re more expensive and in shorter supply for black children. But that’s not your problem. You should definitely buy one.

The more people buy them, the more they will be made, surely?

As a child it seemed the only dolls on sale were blond and blue eyed. I didn't know too many people who looked like that in Hackney so it seemed odd to me. And I am white (just not blonde!)

So happy there are more diverse dolls for the children of today.

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 25/04/2023 17:02

Cultural appropriation😂

StrawberryPavlova · 25/04/2023 17:03

A white child owning a black doll is really not what cultural appropriation is...

AliceMay55 · 25/04/2023 17:03

yeah, brown people all had white dolls growing up, they turned out ok.

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 25/04/2023 17:03

DD had a collection of dolls/Barbies/Playmobil figures in different ethnicities.

The same at her childminders & preschool as it's part of the EYS framework to educate children about diversity & culture in the world around them.

LittleLegsKeepGoing · 25/04/2023 17:04

My husband was ultra sensitive about the same issue when my daughter was given a My Generation doll that was based on darker skin tone. My daughter wanted her because she had a nice outfit and cool puppy.

My husband really thought it was wrong to appropriate a doll that was based on someone else's heritage. My daughter loved her doll .

I'm all for dolls of all sorts of representations being owned by anyone, it's silly to pigeon hole what sort of dolls you're allowed to have (unless they're purposefully offensive like a specific 'G' doll).

wibblewobbleball · 25/04/2023 17:04

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 25/04/2023 16:44

I had one in the Stone Age when I was a child. She was my favourite.

Me too. I still have her. People always comment on her and some snigger when they see her in my daughter's toy box though, winds me up.

AngryBirdsNoMore · 25/04/2023 17:06

LittleLegsKeepGoing · 25/04/2023 17:04

My husband was ultra sensitive about the same issue when my daughter was given a My Generation doll that was based on darker skin tone. My daughter wanted her because she had a nice outfit and cool puppy.

My husband really thought it was wrong to appropriate a doll that was based on someone else's heritage. My daughter loved her doll .

I'm all for dolls of all sorts of representations being owned by anyone, it's silly to pigeon hole what sort of dolls you're allowed to have (unless they're purposefully offensive like a specific 'G' doll).

What is a specific G doll?

NotAnotherBathBomb · 25/04/2023 17:07

Capaldifan94 · 25/04/2023 16:54

Thats what I was worried about 😔

Then please do some reading on cultural appropriation, because you don’t seem to understand what it is

Needmorelego · 25/04/2023 17:07

@ShannonMcFarland what a strange comment. Down Syndrome isn't skin colour exclusive !

MotherofPearl · 25/04/2023 17:07

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I have a relative with alopecia and she bought my DD a bald alopecia Barbie. It came with loads of wigs to style Barbie. It's great to see better representation of diversity.

Baneofmyexistence · 25/04/2023 17:10

@ShannonMcFarland really? Down syndrome occurs worldwide, anyone of any race can have a child with Down syndrome. This why everyone one need dolls representative of every colour, disability etc, so that you learn these things from an early age.

MadelineZott · 25/04/2023 17:12

AngryBirdsNoMore · 25/04/2023 17:06

What is a specific G doll?

Golliwog

pontipinemum · 25/04/2023 17:12

I had a brown skin baby boy doll his name was Timmy and he could pee. I grew up in rural Ireland in the 90s it was fine then and is fine now.

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