Waking us everyday at 6.30 am

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We have guests staying for ten days, it’s actually my parents. They go to bed at 9pm and wake at 6.30. They’re in the spare room right next to our room.
My dad wakes and goes to one of the bathrooms very close and brushes his teeth, clears his throat etc.
Dd, 4, is completely overtired and very difficult 😩
She needs 11 hours sleep to be her normal self. I take her up to bed at 7, but with the lighter evenings, she sometimes doesn’t fall asleep until 8.30.
I’ve asked my mum if they could please try to keep quieter in the mornings as Dd needs her sleep etc. She said it’s hard to stay in bed if you’re awake and up (she’s very quiet though tbf)
I don’t know what the solution is here 🤷🏻‍♀️
Dh is exhausted too as Dd is sharing with us, so he often comes down to sleep on the sofa…my dad comes down at 6.30 to make a coffee and open the doors etc
Our usual wake up time during the week is 8ish and weekends a bit later.
Its been another 6.30 start today and already Dd is acting nuts!

If she's really overtired but still won't fall asleep until 8.30 then the issue you need to solve is with your DD not your parents. Try starting the wind down routine at 5.30 and taking her up to bed at 6.30. if she really is exhausted then she needs to go to bed much earlier than she usually would.

It’s fine if he wants to get up but making that much noise I would suggest he doesn’t do his teeth and if he wants to go and sit on the patio he opens and then closes the door after him. Maybe your mother and father need to stay up later and then get up later

And I re-iterate... NO-ONE with school age children lies in til 8AM! Not if THEY are the ones getting the children ready/taking them to school, and certainly not if they have an actual JOB to go (that starts between 9.00-9.30 am,) to as well!

I do. DS1 has to get up earlier for the school bus, so brings me a coffee around 7.30- 7.45, then I get myself and DS2 up around 8.00- 8.10, make him porridge, tell him 500 times to clean teeth and put socks on, then we're out of the door at 8.44 for the 50 metre walk to school which starts at 8.45. Then a 10 minute walk down the hill, and I'm at my workshop by 9.00.

(tilts head) Have you chosen quite an....inefficient lifestyle? Oh dear, poor you

Get a black out blind and put her to bed at half 6

I can't imagine any guest being so rude as to wake the whole household up an hour and a half after dawn. It's incredibly rude. Just go for a very quiet wee don't flush and creep back into bed to read or watch something on a tablet. Or just go to bed at 11 like normal people and get up at 8.30 not 6.30!

And I re-iterate... NO-ONE with school age children lies in til 8AM! Not if THEY are the ones getting the children ready/taking them to school, and certainly not if they have an actual JOB to go (that starts between 9.00-9.30 am,) to as well

I did. If I got up earlier and got children up earlier they would just mess around and end up being late

Not my parents 😂 To be fair not DH parents either although they’re great. I don’t know, I just find my house is big enough for the people who currently live in it. A weekend is fine but I wouldn’t invite guests to stay for such a long time.

I am laughing a lot at the posters annoyed that OH is driving her DD to school and then going on to work, instead of walking it.

See, OP? If you did that instead, then you'd probably all be used to getting up at 6.30am as you'd HAVE to in order to do all that pointless walking back and forth 😂

But not everyone gets to work at 7.30. I work shifts now, but Ive had jobs that started at 10am. It would be completely unreasonable to be up at 6.30!! Or, when I worked evenings, and the earliest I had to be at work was 12pm, 6.30 is unreasonable!

Not everyone has YOUR life and your schedule. OP is not in the UK either. Where I am, 9.30 starts for work and school are not unreasonable, so you dont have to get up at the crack of dawn. 7.30/8 is pretty normal and reasonable.

You say there’s a week left to go which means they’ve only been there 3 days. I can’t believe that you are all exhausted and DD’s behaviour is that disrupted when you’ve so far only missed about 3 hours sleep?

The OP lives in a hot country. Forcing a 6.30 or even 7.30 bedtime on her DD is not going to work. In Spain for instance (which may well be where she lives) children are still out an about at 8 pm.

I don't know the OP's area/routes - obviously if it's 5 mins down a motorway to work, it isn't feasible to walk it so I won't comment on her situation specifically but some of us don't consider walking rather than driving short distances to be pointless but more something that is a) better for your health and b) better for the planet.

6.30am is far too early to be woken unless you have to be.

I can understand people waking up to go the toilet (I do that more as I have got older), but surely they can go back to bed and read or something. I was going to suggest they come down quietly in their dressing gowns and make some coffee, doing the bathroom stuff after the three of you wake. However if your husband is trying to sleep in the living room, that isn't much good.

Hopefully it won't be for long.

8pm? There are children out at 10/11pm on school nights in both Spain and Portugal. Because they usually dont have to wake up much before 8, even if they are in school!

I wish I can sleep in past 6.30! I live in Australia and have block out blinds but with the heat and sun peeping under the door it's hard not to wake up. I go to bed past 11pm too ( right now it's 11.30pm) but I still can't sleep in past 6.30 nor would my kids. Just a habit I guess 😊

White noise in the room you’re DD is sleeping in, and you guys will probably have to suck it up.

In my world that’s crazy early! We get up at 8 to get primary school kid to school for 9, then I start work at 9.05ish (wfh)

Regular 6.30 starts would destroy us all! 😩 Plus it’s Saturday today - OP, I get it, I’d be FURIOUS!

Quite right too, ASCGIRL. None of us were very early risers even during term time and going to work. Weekends and days off were times for a decent lie in too. My child didn't go to bed early though, was far too wide awake and had things to do from an early age, which we as parents didn't mind at all. When we all did go to sleep we were like logs! Now I'm 'old' I cannot sleep so long - which I regret but that's life.

However I expect the op can suck it up for another week unless her parents adjust their routines which would be a good thing.

I feel your pain OP. I’ve just been away on holiday in shared accommodation with family and one member woke up well before 6.30 each day, got up, had a shower etc and woke the kids up and the rest of us! One morning they got up at 5.30 and decided to empty the dishwasher!!! I was fuming 😡
I eventually had to say that unfortunately it wasn’t acceptable and asked if they could possibly read/go on their phone and not shower until 7 if possible and the rest of the family backed me up 🤣🤣 Everyone was tired and cranky by day 3!!!
I totally get that some people’s body clocks are used to getting up at a certain time but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask your parents to please keep the noise down and creep round until DD wakes up.

Getting up to go the toilet, clearing your throat and brushing your teeth are all totally normal morning activities, though - it's not like he's turning the radio on or crashing about making a fry up.

I genuinely can't imagine telling someone "sorry, you're not allowed to get up, flush the toilet, brush your teeth or get a drink until some arbitrary time I decide" - it's so inhospitable.

IMO, if you're such a light-sleeper that someone using the bathroom has you up for the day, the obvious solution is that you don't invite guests to stay with you for ten days, surely?

Do you ever have the radio on in the morning when you’re stirring?

If you did, you’d hear about tail back on the m25 at 8am

if you looked out of the window at 8am, you’d see people hurrying to the station, children on way to school, people waiting at the bus stop.

So I think you can appreciate that your family and the neighbours… all never getting up before 8 isn’t as commonplace as you think.

What time does your school finish up the day op?

10 days
otherwise loving thoughtful parents with whom I have a good relationship with and who are great grandparents… I would suck up early starts without a nano second hesitation.

I suspect though… this isn’t the case 🤷‍♀️

Does it matter? Just because it's your time to get up and the GPs time it's not the OP's time to get up and that's what's relevant surely?

Ask you dad if he could be a bit quieter when he gets up in the morning as he is waking up his grandaugher and throwing your routine with her completely off.

I love that OP ignores loads of questions but chooses to return to thread to clarify this point 😂