I am pointing out that you seem to be rather hypocritical here.
And I also note you have not suggested once what feminists should be doing that they are not doing. You have posted post after post about how this is the biggest issue. You said it was “having the biggest material effect on women”. Based on what? I am not denying it is a significant issue, but I do disagree with you that it is the biggest issue and most importantly, I disagree that feminists are not doing something about it.
Just like feminists are working to stop the exploitation of women’s bodies through international sex trafficking and surrogacy. You talk about mass rape events, yet do the sex trafficked women not need attention? when the numbers of those raped women could be up to 10k in the UK at any one time? That is thousands of women being raped every day in the sex trade. And they are coming in as refugees too.
If you remember, MN has had many discussions about the Albanian women being trafficked as refugees.
You have posted on the feminist board before, you must be fully aware how scarce the data YOU are demanding is, yet here you are demanding it. It seems only to be to shame others for not prioritising something that you also have not seemed to have done any campaigning about. Otherwise you would have answered the comments to that effect.
The work about gender is just part of the work that feminists are doing every day in the UK. You must know that. You post on the Sex and Gender board, a board hived off for that very issue, and then you complain that that is the focus. Nothing new there. Many posters do it because they disagree with the topic being allowed at all on this forum.
You posted how it was a white and middle class movement fighting gender, which is demonstrably wrong and it also doesn’t consider the harm done to women who are vocal about this topic. It is a propaganda tactic used by those who are heavily invested in changing laws and policies to suit themselves leaving women and children open to harm. Yet you used it here on this thread.
I think literal is right. For all the time you have posted on the feminist boards, you don’t seem to have a grasp of the issue and you don’t seem to have understood why some women have prioritised it above other issues.
As I mentioned, one reason is because it is their own children being harmed. It is something where something can be done by them directly with their schools, with the care that they seek for their children, with their children’s sporting teams and clubs, and with organisations providing single sex spaces. There are immediate gains to be made just by direct parental action in view of the lack of clear legislation. Just as there are immediate gains to be made by direct action by any woman for those instances.
It is also something where immediate gains can be made through tightening legal language. Hence feminists are very vocal
and talking about this because once people read their words, once people listen they understand and even people who are not feminists actively campaigning can have an effect.
And immediate action through preventing poor law being made.
As I said, it will take years to change a poorly made law back, how many additional women and children are acceptable collateral for not fighting those laws now?
The immediacy is not the same with the issue you wish to prioritise above others. It cannot be positively impacted immediately by law changes. Because the laws already exist. It could be said to improve general deterrents through dramatically improved prosecution. And there are whole feminist organisations set up and working towards reducing VAWAG, domestic abuse, rape and sexual assault. Have you mentioned those? At all? Or do you think no feminists, no posters on this forum are involved in those?
I asked you what what you think the outcome of focusing on one group of males will achieve. You didn’t really give an answer. You just repeated we should be focused on it, repeated the stats (you have now admitted you have relied on statistics from other countries and the author you mentioned acknowledges just how unreliable stats around this are) and didn’t mention what the outcome would look like.
Is it no refugees? Is that what you propose? Is it setting up support within communities with high proportions of the specific group you discuss to enact change within, as has been and is continuing to be done and sponsored by local governments?
What? What outcome is if you want? Will legalisative changes help? Or is it just more discussion? You think the answer to the issue you are talking about is more discussion?
Whereas more discussion about how the prioritisation of gender over sex does have an immediate impact because people vote, people start writing and asking organisations they deal with questions that make changes on a organisation by organisation basis. Because that is how this issue is resolved because it is not clear cut.
Because as a movement it doesn’t have universal support. It doesn’t have local government support.
Rape and sexual assault has clear rejection amongst the majority of the UK population. Whether it is by the group you target or any male, the fight against VAWAG has universal support organisations and its own discussions happening every single day. It has vigils in my area monthly for instance.
The discussion around women and children’s needs and trans people’s needs is not clear cut. It is not just about rape and sexual assault which you seem to have tried to limit it to. That is a common tactic too, limiting the discussion to toilets to trivialise it.
It impacts health care and support, education, prison, social groups, employment, sport, political groups, recreation, just off the top of my head.
And you wonder why the discussions are many. It reflects the wide ranging nature of the impacts on everyday life.
And it is just one issue feminists work on in real life.