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Aibu to be pissed off about neighbours complaining their kids behind in school but let them run around outside until bedtime?

177 replies

Bookwanderer · 20/04/2023 18:59

My neighbours have been bitching about the school & that their kids school reports haven't been great.. However the second the kids are home from school their out playing until around 9pm even in the winter.. Most days they have friends home with them too.. They can't really blame the school can they?!!

OP posts:
LaughingCat · 20/04/2023 20:36

I’m a huge supporter of parental involvement in education and I definitely believe that learning begins at home.

However, the smugly vicious and judgemental tone of the OP posts…Christ. Glad you’re not our neighbour is all I can say.

Hobnobswantshernameback · 20/04/2023 20:38

Can you imagine if your only choice in life was drug dealer or Oxbridge?

WhiteFire · 20/04/2023 20:40

Hobnobswantshernameback · 20/04/2023 20:38

Can you imagine if your only choice in life was drug dealer or Oxbridge?

Could I combine the two?

Hobnobswantshernameback · 20/04/2023 20:40

Genius level 😂😂😂

Bookwanderer · 20/04/2023 20:41

Well I am of the opinion that if they don't want their kids in the bottom sets like they are bitching & moaning about (blaming the school which they are calling beyond useless!! ) they need to either plug the gaps themselves or hire tutors... They're willing to do neither as they are saying it's the schools fault & problem..

OP posts:
WeeWillyWinkie9 · 20/04/2023 20:41

Bookwanderer · 20/04/2023 19:16

Yes it pisses me off.. My dc are in the same school but are doing fine as they do their homework, read alot & do any additional work set.. I can't understand why these neighbours are blaming the school, their kids do fuck all & it's the parents fault!

They blame the school because otherwise they would have to accept their lack of parenting that is to blame.

Hobnobswantshernameback · 20/04/2023 20:44

Oh fuck sake channel Elsa
let it go

GoodChat · 20/04/2023 20:45

Bookwanderer · 20/04/2023 20:41

Well I am of the opinion that if they don't want their kids in the bottom sets like they are bitching & moaning about (blaming the school which they are calling beyond useless!! ) they need to either plug the gaps themselves or hire tutors... They're willing to do neither as they are saying it's the schools fault & problem..

How do you know what they are or are not doing in their own home?

Kanaloa · 20/04/2023 20:46

Bookwanderer · 20/04/2023 20:41

Well I am of the opinion that if they don't want their kids in the bottom sets like they are bitching & moaning about (blaming the school which they are calling beyond useless!! ) they need to either plug the gaps themselves or hire tutors... They're willing to do neither as they are saying it's the schools fault & problem..

They may be unable to afford tutoring. I do a bit on the side and it can be expensive! And they may realise that trying to teach their child themselves could actually be detrimental. I mean incorrect use of their, thinking ‘alot’ is one word, and so on. If you taught your kids out of school you’d be passing on poor grammar and incorrect spellings to them. If these children are frequently missing homework that’s an issue for the school to deal with, not for a neighbour to moan about.

IamAlso4eels · 20/04/2023 20:46

WhiteFire · 20/04/2023 20:40

Could I combine the two?

Straight to the top of the class. Working smarter, not harder.

Bookwanderer · 20/04/2023 20:47

GoodChat · 20/04/2023 20:45

How do you know what they are or are not doing in their own home?

Because they said they're not! That's the whole point of the thread. They are blaming the school, they said it's up to the school to bring them up to scratch!

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Kanaloa · 20/04/2023 20:47

I mean I support my kids with English and French out of school because I am competent in those subjects. But if they were struggling in maths or science I would be going to the school to ask for support as I’m aware that I couldn’t support them adequately and could actually set them back.

Saltired · 20/04/2023 20:49

I am a teacher.

I have a daughter who is struggling in school - but always tries her best and so on.

Sadly, no amount of extra work is going to get her caught up, as she just switches off. She HAS been gradually catching up over time though. She’s the youngest in her class. Extra work just leads to frustration all round.

She does have a tutor, a family friend, and we read together every night before bed. And she does her homework; but that doesn’t take long.

My daughter works really, really hard at school. She works really hard at her homework, which takes maybe half an hour at most per day. She works really hard reading with me at bedtime.

In between all of this time, she gets plenty of downtime to play. Which is hugely important for young children.

There is PLENTY of research which shows homework is of limited value, plenty which shows the importance of play on health and well-being, and so on.

Here is just one piece of reading:

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/ioe/ioe120/seeing-importance-breaktimes-childrens-development

Seeing the importance of breaktimes for children’s development

School breaktimes offer a vital opportunity for children to interact with peers and develop social skills but break time has been reducing, limiting the opportunity for pupils to build these skills.

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/ioe/ioe120/seeing-importance-breaktimes-childrens-development

Bookwanderer · 20/04/2023 20:49

Kanaloa · 20/04/2023 20:46

They may be unable to afford tutoring. I do a bit on the side and it can be expensive! And they may realise that trying to teach their child themselves could actually be detrimental. I mean incorrect use of their, thinking ‘alot’ is one word, and so on. If you taught your kids out of school you’d be passing on poor grammar and incorrect spellings to them. If these children are frequently missing homework that’s an issue for the school to deal with, not for a neighbour to moan about.

They can afford fortnight's in Spain & Portugal twice a year & the Orlando so I'm sure tutoring is only a drop in the ocean in comparison!

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Beenhereforever1978 · 20/04/2023 20:49

How can I brag about how well my children are doing in school without it sounding like bragging?

I know! I'll come up with a fictitious group of parents who are complaining about their child being in the bottom set, then say it's because they are feral and play out until all hours. I heard this on the way to an after curricular activity they all go to, which demonstrates that they are not, in fact, feral and out until all hours.

Then I'll be able to drop into the thread that my children are just fine because of all these things we have done which we can't just boast about openly but really want to.

This is not the first example of this kind of thread. Nor will it be the last. It's nice to see the OP getting more of a drubbing than they might have done ten years ago though. 😊

Bookwanderer · 20/04/2023 20:50

Saltired · 20/04/2023 20:49

I am a teacher.

I have a daughter who is struggling in school - but always tries her best and so on.

Sadly, no amount of extra work is going to get her caught up, as she just switches off. She HAS been gradually catching up over time though. She’s the youngest in her class. Extra work just leads to frustration all round.

She does have a tutor, a family friend, and we read together every night before bed. And she does her homework; but that doesn’t take long.

My daughter works really, really hard at school. She works really hard at her homework, which takes maybe half an hour at most per day. She works really hard reading with me at bedtime.

In between all of this time, she gets plenty of downtime to play. Which is hugely important for young children.

There is PLENTY of research which shows homework is of limited value, plenty which shows the importance of play on health and well-being, and so on.

Here is just one piece of reading:

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/ioe/ioe120/seeing-importance-breaktimes-childrens-development

I totally understand that but you're doing your best to help her judging by your post & you are not blaming the school!

OP posts:
Kanaloa · 20/04/2023 20:51

Bookwanderer · 20/04/2023 20:49

They can afford fortnight's in Spain & Portugal twice a year & the Orlando so I'm sure tutoring is only a drop in the ocean in comparison!

It’s ‘fortnights.’ They can afford fortnights. The point is that not everyone can support their kids’ learning out of school to an adequate level. However, have you considered going over and complaining that their bottom set children have the audacity to play outside and enjoy life?

Hobnobswantshernameback · 20/04/2023 20:51

Hun u iz amazin
u iz so better a mumma to ur lidl cubz than those chav mummas
hugz hun

Bookwanderer · 20/04/2023 20:52

Beenhereforever1978 · 20/04/2023 20:49

How can I brag about how well my children are doing in school without it sounding like bragging?

I know! I'll come up with a fictitious group of parents who are complaining about their child being in the bottom set, then say it's because they are feral and play out until all hours. I heard this on the way to an after curricular activity they all go to, which demonstrates that they are not, in fact, feral and out until all hours.

Then I'll be able to drop into the thread that my children are just fine because of all these things we have done which we can't just boast about openly but really want to.

This is not the first example of this kind of thread. Nor will it be the last. It's nice to see the OP getting more of a drubbing than they might have done ten years ago though. 😊

No the kids do not all go to the same extracurricular. I met the parents gossiping on the path near my car if you read my post correctly 🙄

OP posts:
Saltired · 20/04/2023 20:52

Kanaloa · 20/04/2023 20:46

They may be unable to afford tutoring. I do a bit on the side and it can be expensive! And they may realise that trying to teach their child themselves could actually be detrimental. I mean incorrect use of their, thinking ‘alot’ is one word, and so on. If you taught your kids out of school you’d be passing on poor grammar and incorrect spellings to them. If these children are frequently missing homework that’s an issue for the school to deal with, not for a neighbour to moan about.

This!

Op’s writing is littered with SO many errors it makes the whole thing laughable.

I’m a teacher myself and I don’t get involved in setting extra work for my child. I’m not a primary teacher. To suggest that parents should be getting their kids “caught up” is ridiculous. A teacher is a professional. If the kids are behind; sure the parents can HELP. But the school really need to be the ones putting the help in place.

IamAlso4eels · 20/04/2023 20:52

Bookwanderer · 20/04/2023 20:41

Well I am of the opinion that if they don't want their kids in the bottom sets like they are bitching & moaning about (blaming the school which they are calling beyond useless!! ) they need to either plug the gaps themselves or hire tutors... They're willing to do neither as they are saying it's the schools fault & problem..

If the children aren't making expecting progress then that is an issue for school to deal with and it is the responsibility of the school to deliver targeted interventions to help them make that progress. Maybe they're complaining because school aren't doing that?

Hawkins003 · 20/04/2023 20:52

Hobnobswantshernameback · 20/04/2023 20:51

Hun u iz amazin
u iz so better a mumma to ur lidl cubz than those chav mummas
hugz hun

What's wrong with being better if you are better ?

Hobnobswantshernameback · 20/04/2023 20:53

All the best
hun

Teentaxidriver · 20/04/2023 20:53

Mind blown: school is for work, home is for relaxing. This attitude is exactly why teachers are leaving the profession in droves. Do you think that simply because your child goes to school, you are somehow exempt from teaching them stuff?

IamAlso4eels · 20/04/2023 20:54

Bookwanderer · 20/04/2023 20:47

Because they said they're not! That's the whole point of the thread. They are blaming the school, they said it's up to the school to bring them up to scratch!

That is the school's job.

Have you heard of the National Curriculum?