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Aibu to be pissed off about neighbours complaining their kids behind in school but let them run around outside until bedtime?

177 replies

Bookwanderer · 20/04/2023 18:59

My neighbours have been bitching about the school & that their kids school reports haven't been great.. However the second the kids are home from school their out playing until around 9pm even in the winter.. Most days they have friends home with them too.. They can't really blame the school can they?!!

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Boomboom22 · 20/04/2023 19:21

You can see why society is as it is from the responses so far. Parental investment and valuing education is more important than anything else, including the school and medical issues. Good teaching is def important but if the parents don't back up the value of reading and learning as well as playing, socialising and relaxing then they can't expect the school to do everything for them. Balance is key.

Bookwanderer · 20/04/2023 19:22

@IamAlso4eels & it educates mine who are in the same class no problem. DH & I are very happy.

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33goingon64 · 20/04/2023 19:23

I'd love my kids to be running around outside every day after school. They might spend less time fighting and gawping at the tv/ xbox. What connection are you making between being behind at school and playing outside? I can't see it.

Coffeeandbourbons · 20/04/2023 19:23

NoKnit · 20/04/2023 19:16

Good grief then you are totally unreasonable. Why can't kids that age play out at 9pm is totally normal time to go to bed. If they were stuck inside watching YouTube until 9pm that would be OK would it?

This. 9pm is a little late but not really late, 8pm would probably be better. But it’s nice that some kids still ‘play out’ and aren’t just gawping at tablets and tiktok all evening. I don’t get why it annoys you though as it’s not your business really, as long as the kids are clean and fed and not being smacked around.

Bookwanderer · 20/04/2023 19:23

Boomboom22 · 20/04/2023 19:21

You can see why society is as it is from the responses so far. Parental investment and valuing education is more important than anything else, including the school and medical issues. Good teaching is def important but if the parents don't back up the value of reading and learning as well as playing, socialising and relaxing then they can't expect the school to do everything for them. Balance is key.

Absolutely, my kids have activities in the evenings after homework & do a couple of after school clubs but they still get an hour or two to play out every evening!

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itsabigtree · 20/04/2023 19:24

Kids should be outside playing with other children.

Colourmylifewith · 20/04/2023 19:25

Bookwanderer · 20/04/2023 19:23

Absolutely, my kids have activities in the evenings after homework & do a couple of after school clubs but they still get an hour or two to play out every evening!

Sounds a bit much tbh, bet they are exhausted 😴

33goingon64 · 20/04/2023 19:26

How do you know they're not doing homework in the morning? DS does his between 7.45 after breakfast and 8.15. There's no proof homework has any advantageous effect on overall performance. Activities are expensive, as a rule, and they're getting valuable skills from playing. You sound very judgemental and snobbish.

Bookwanderer · 20/04/2023 19:27

Coffeeandbourbons · 20/04/2023 19:23

This. 9pm is a little late but not really late, 8pm would probably be better. But it’s nice that some kids still ‘play out’ and aren’t just gawping at tablets and tiktok all evening. I don’t get why it annoys you though as it’s not your business really, as long as the kids are clean and fed and not being smacked around.

It annoys me because I was listening to the bitching this evening on my way to drop the dc to a club.. I wanted to say "you're the child's parents who are responsible for their education first & foremost, support the school & support your child" " but I buy my tongue & said" can't say I agree, DH & I are very happy".

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Colourmylifewith · 20/04/2023 19:28

33goingon64 · 20/04/2023 19:26

How do you know they're not doing homework in the morning? DS does his between 7.45 after breakfast and 8.15. There's no proof homework has any advantageous effect on overall performance. Activities are expensive, as a rule, and they're getting valuable skills from playing. You sound very judgemental and snobbish.

Yes this, I love it when my kids play out, they spent covid being fairly isolated and I feel they are gaining really valuable skills and also just enjoying themselves with their mates!

Bookwanderer · 20/04/2023 19:28

Colourmylifewith · 20/04/2023 19:25

Sounds a bit much tbh, bet they are exhausted 😴

No their absolutely fine, sorry to disappoint you 😁

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IamAlso4eels · 20/04/2023 19:30

I'd much rather a child in my class who has had a good run around the evening before so they've had a good sleep and are ready to learn, they're also less likely to be fidgety and distracted as they're regularly burning off energy.

WhiteFire · 20/04/2023 19:30

You are of course presuming that the parents are in a position to help them. Do they have the literacy and numeracy skills themselves?

asndeorno · 20/04/2023 19:31

YABU.

Very odd post.

OneCup · 20/04/2023 19:32

There's not enough context to say who is unreasonable. Perhaps it is not the parents' fault the children are in bottom sets.
I don't think you can judge the parents because their kids spend time outdoors. If anything, this is a good thing.

rubadubdubascrubinahottub · 20/04/2023 19:33

Smuggy Mc Smuggerson. Do you make them line up and sing "Goodbye, Farewell" like The Sound of Music every night too?|

Get a grip.

GrazingSheep · 20/04/2023 19:33

What are they actually doing ‘playing out’?
Football, chasing, skipping ? Or sitting on a wall gawping at YouTube?

Offthexmaslist · 20/04/2023 19:33

Personally I am thrilled the kids are outdoors..

Intergalacticcatharsis · 20/04/2023 19:34

Kids need fresh air, running around, socialising as much as they need some 1 to 1 time with parents. Short bursts of sitting with them learning 5-10 minutes a day in the early days of schooling make a huge amount of difference as well as daily reading, discussion and use of vocabulary. However, exercise and daylight is just as important for their growing bodies so yes, it is a balance. These days it can be hard to achieve especially if parents both work full time and after school club allow too much tech.

Bookwanderer · 20/04/2023 19:42

WhiteFire · 20/04/2023 19:30

You are of course presuming that the parents are in a position to help them. Do they have the literacy and numeracy skills themselves?

Yep both sets of families would be in good professions.

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GoodChat · 20/04/2023 19:43

They're probably doing homework, reading etc at the weekends

NoKnit · 20/04/2023 19:49

Bookwanderer · 20/04/2023 19:20

Because their parents are bitching & moaning they're behind in school & in bottom sets yet are making no efforts to support them whatsoever just leave them to their own devices after school..
Much easier to blame the school than parent ones child it seems.

Are you also inside their house abd know what happens behind closed doors? Are they really always outside? Or just fron when you get home from work or whatever? If they're in school until 4 then do an hour work and reading until 5 abd play outside for 4 hours that is actually OK. Mire than an hour on top of a full day's school is too much. You don't actually know how much they do do you?

HarleyLane · 20/04/2023 19:51

Homework makes less difference than social class a recent study has found.

https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2023-04-12/social-class-contributes-more-to-pupil-progress-than-homework-help-says-study

Skybluepinky · 20/04/2023 19:56

Pushing kids to do extra work normally has the opposite effect they rebel and hate it.
No idea y u think u r the expert.

Boomboom22 · 20/04/2023 20:03

Yes class makes the difference for various reasons including parents supporting the school in school readiness, ie shapes, colours, putting own shoes and coat on, using cutlery etc and in 10 mins reading to your child a day from tiny etc. Also time due to flexible jobs, comfortable beds, space to do hw and have a garden.