I don't believe we've been to the moon and SpaceXs failure further convinces me.

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I know I've posted this before and the majority of you think I'm batty, but I don't think we've landed on the moon.

3 billion USD, a giant leap in technological advances and yet it can't even launch.

I suspect that it could have something to do with the fact that designs are over-engineered. Perhaps they need to go back to the 1969 drawing board.

There’s quite a lot of evidence here

The moon landing clearly happened.

Yes...and the earth is flat 😂

are you on drugs

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OP, is there any chance of you treating us to your explanation for Russia's co-operative silence on this over the last 50 years?

We are reading about it so why couldn’t the Russians are behind these ‘rumours’.

On the balance of probability I'd sooner strap myself into a modern day rocket once it's out the of the R&D phase than I would the Saturn 5. It's only through sheer luck a few of them didn't blow up.

The wonders of core rope memory, which was actually knitted together.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_rope_memory

There is a book on the Apollo Guidance Computer, but it is extremely boring unless you are into microprocessors or a dedicated science geek.

The tech's not particularly complex. The computing power used is less than that contained in your phone, and we've been launching since pre-ww2...

You haven't done much research. Go away and look into the woven ferrite core memory storage they used. Why would you think they would use the dumb screens from your work to run a spaceship? In 1969 early pre-production Boeing 747s were flying around the world with computerised inertial navigation systems accurate to within a few metres over thousands of miles.

"we" haven't been back because popular support waned after the initial visits, there isn't much on the moon, and it costs a fuckton of cash to go. It's not that we couldn't.

You don't need computers. You need a human understanding of the physics and the resulting calculations. That can then be built into a physical craft using electronics, without needing massively sophisticated CPUs for processing. The astronauts were pilots and engineers for a reason.

You've obviously missed the documentaries and reports disputing them being on the moon. They included the way the flag was blowing etc.

As for no-one leaking it. We still have a wall of silence from the police at Hillsborough. We still don't know how the dead body of Marilyn Monroe got back to her apartment. There's no-one campaigning for the truth, so it's easy to keep secrets. In the US if you question the achievements of the country, then you can find yourself and family in real danger, thanks to easy gun ownership. Russians did dispute that it happened, but it was said that it was sour grapes. Like pp I'm open minded on it. I can't help feeling that if it was really possible, Elon Musk would be pissing about on there.

The clangers :)

Amateur astronomers around the world were able to spot several of the Apollo spacecraft on their way there and back. A bunch of sixth formers from Kettering were able to track them by radar…. Jodrell Bank also tracked Apollo 11.

Experimental rockets like Space X blow up with remarkable frequency. A spacecraft take off is basically a highly controlled explosion, which sometimes morphs into an uncontrolled explosion. I think they detonated Space X deliberately when they realised they were in danger of losing control.

No wonder Buzz Aldrin punched that guy who said he was a liar for claiming to have walked on the moon.

Utterly intolerable.

I agree op. I think the Bison and the large sea creatures were in on it. Also something to do with water.

Are these documentaries based on soviet information then? Or are they by conspiracy theorists that have no additional information beyond what is in the public domain.

Did you work at NASA then? Assuming you didn't is it possibly that perhaps your company, like most in 1985, wasn't a space agency and therefore didn't need anything other than what was commercially and easily available.

The problem with the moon is not that it is boring, but that it is so dangerous. The dust on the moon is sharp enough to cut your lungs to shreds, if any gets into the space ship. One thing the moon has taught us is where we CANT go

The flag wasn't blowing. There is no air. It was supported by a horizontal rod. It would have required a major gale to blow it out literally sideways.

We can declare the Russians as enemies, but as the seizing of property, the confiscation of businesses and cash, show is that those in high places all have fingers in the same pies.

You've obviously missed the documentaries and reports disputing them being on the moon. They included the way the flag was blowing etc.

I've seen a couple of documentaries with a fairly detailed explanation of why that flag stuff is fucking bollocks like the other stuff you listed.

$3Bn is bugger all. Rocket technology is pretty difficult from my meagre understanding. All Space-X has proved that putting satellites up is relatively easy but to go longer distances you need advanced engineering. Same reason NASA are struggling.

Comparatively, the amount of money, staff, facilities, equipment and brainpower focused on space travel now is tiny compared to the 60s when it was an all consuming focus.

In the 60s, the brightest scientists, mathematicians and engineers in the world were all working on the space race. Now is limited to the kind of person who thinks it's a good idea to work for Elon Musk.