I don't believe we've been to the moon and SpaceXs failure further convinces me.

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I know I've posted this before and the majority of you think I'm batty, but I don't think we've landed on the moon.

3 billion USD, a giant leap in technological advances and yet it can't even launch.

As for citing Hillsborough - the Police lied, but to make any kind of equivalence to the ridiculous idea we didn't land on the moon you'd have to be claiming no-one at all died at Hillsborough.

It was something to do with shadow or movement. I remember watching a couple of documentaries, but tbh I don't care. Now we know how high Hillsborough went and how protected Jimmy Savile was by Prince Charles and Thatcher, as well as other events, I'm more open minded on some theories.

I don’t believe in Finland.

Many years ago, I visited the Kennedy Space Center at Cape Canaveral and attended a talk by a retired astronaut. He told us that by the late 1960s, given the successful progress up to that point of the Gemini & Apollo programs, NASA were reasonably confident they could put humans on the moon.

Bringing them back to Earth alive & well, however, was a completely different matter. And nobody knew if it was actually going to work until it did. The space pioneers of both the USA & USSR were incredibly brave people.

No one has yet provided concrete proof that the Loch Ness monster doesn’t exist.
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It was a cover up ordered by Thatcher, that went down the ranks. Those in power lied, covered up and said things happened that didn't. So why couldn't they do that about the moon landing, especially considering how everyone keeps up the manta that America is the greatest country?

Riiiiiight - Jimmy Savile proves we didn't land on the moon. Ok then.

I'll quite happily move to Mars to avoid some of these moronic takes.

@Nimbostratus100 - this is one famed catastrophe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nedelin_catastrophe#:~:text=The%20Nedelin%20catastrophe%20or%20Nedelin,Baikonur%20Cosmodrome%20in%20Soviet%20Kazakhstan.

Numbers are hard to confirm, for obvious reasons, but they could be quite gung-ho with risking lives.

Obviously, there were deaths in the US programme too, but they were generally working much more carefully.

Can't work out who's spoofing or not now. Imagine the Duke of Edinburgh being suggested as great intellect of our times.

But they couldn't cover up the event and the deaths - they lied about how it happened, not that it happened at all. As I said for your "equivalence" to be valid, they'd have had to be able to pretend no-one died at Hillsborough.

Those of you who think it's made up, have you ever actual been to the Space Centre at Cape Canaveral?

I saw a car crash the other day, therefore everyone one else driving cars is fake....

Likewise. Fuck I'll take my chance in the next rocket if it means I can escape such ridiculous nonsense.

I'm starting to have some sympathy with why Sunak wants everyone to do maths.

Yeah, I mean he's obviously going to know way more about it than the people who were actually there because he was er........ Royal and that, innit?

There’s an excellent netflix show around at the moment where all the conspiracy theories are true. All of them. Highly entertaining.

I don’t know much about it but given the amount of lying that goes on generally, I’m open-minded.

I think that anyone certain about anything in this strange world is bonkers.

100% we have not landed in the moon, no way.

I can imagine that he was disappointed in their pheasant killing and carriage driving skills.

Both essential components of a moon landing mission.

Hillsborough seems to have involved a cover up of who was responsible, not a cover up of the event itself...

Now if Thatcher/others had actually managed to conspire to convince the world that nothing had happened at Hillsborough, zilch, no fatalities then you might be making a valid comparison.

I agree with OP. I don’t believe in the moon landings but I do believe that Jimmy Saville abused the Loch Ness monster and Nessie was threatened to maintain her silence. King Charles has ordered everyone to deny she exists. It’s so sad!

It’s like how they expect us to believe in narwhals but not unicorns. WTF!

The US is currently spending about twice as much annually just on supporting Ukraine against Russia than its entire annual NASA budget. It’s not that it “can’t” get to the moon - it’s just priorities. And space exploration has for a long time been miles down the list, whereas in the 60s and 70s it was relatively high.

You are bonkers!

It would probably have been more difficult to mock it up than to actually go there.