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Husband's brother not invited his step-child

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JaynesSmalls · 20/04/2023 12:23

I got married 4 years ago and my husband became my child's stepfather. My child is 13, and doesn't see their father. My husband has nieces and nephews either side of this age.

My child is sadly my husband's only chance of parenting.

His brother is getting married in a late afternoon early evening wedding in a world famous hotel. They are having 60 people there. Apparently this has been planned for the last two years but we only found out about this a month ago just days before the invitations went out. He told my husband after a night out (he had told their sister that afternoon).

The invitation stated just our names with no mention of my child.

I got it, it's a world class venue and a reasonably small wedding. I totally get child free weddings especially given the time of it. I found out yesterday that husband's sister's kids are invited. Mine clearly hasn't because they are a step-child. I feel quite heartbroken.

My husband asked yesterday if my child could be extended an invitation but was refused. A kicker came a minute later when brother was asked if there was a drop out could they come and brother said if there were drop outs relatively new work colleagues would be invited.

No idea if this is relevant but I want to put my cards on the table so any advice I get will be informed by the facts. My first wedding was massive and as my dad later told my cousin it cost a grand for every month it lasted. My wedding to my husband was in a registry office with just our parents so the sibling who has invited us wasn't invited to ours.

OP posts:
Mortimercat · 07/06/2023 07:40

MyTruthIsOut · 05/06/2023 20:06

Firstly it wasn’t her wedding, it was their wedding.

My husband was upset that his best friend of over 10 years wouldn’t stand up to his fiancée and say he wanted me at the wedding and instead let me be excluded.

And I certainly didn’t stop my DH from going as not one part of him wanted to go.

You are sounding even worse. You think that your husbands friend should have prioritised your husband over his fiancé on their wedding day. And you lament that the friendship has soured. Funny that.

PussyGalore1 · 07/06/2023 07:42

I’m always amazed by women who make other peoples’ weddings so bloody dramatic and about them. Just stay at home and let your partners go solo. You both sound deranged and spoilt a lovely day by your tantrums

goldenlocks · 07/06/2023 07:53

Awful, sorry OP. Feel worried about your relationship going forward. They're being knobs.

Bunbuns3 · 07/06/2023 08:03

I find the responses on here fascinating.
On another thread most people have said that children not invited to a wedding is perfectly fine and reasonable. Now all of a sudden because the child in question is a step child, it is all of a sudden terrible and disgusting that they are not included. Why are step children given preferential treatment by mumsnetters? I am genuinely interested.

Iwasafool · 07/06/2023 08:06

Bunbuns3 · 07/06/2023 08:03

I find the responses on here fascinating.
On another thread most people have said that children not invited to a wedding is perfectly fine and reasonable. Now all of a sudden because the child in question is a step child, it is all of a sudden terrible and disgusting that they are not included. Why are step children given preferential treatment by mumsnetters? I am genuinely interested.

Children are invited though. This isn't about a step child being given preferential treatment, it is the complete opposite. The groom has two siblings, one has children she gave birth to and they are invited, the other sibling has no biological children but a stepchild he considers his own and that child isn't invited. So the stepchild is being treated as if he isn't the siblings child when that isn't the grooms decision, it is his brothers.

Sweetlily99 · 07/06/2023 08:07

Hi op

Just read the update and sorry for all the sadness.

Your feelings are 100% valid as its the respect and acknowledgement that this is your family that hurt and work colleagues would be prioritised over that.

I'm not sure guests who were gossiping and in agreement with BIL would be the same if they knew it was work vs a child... and it's one child. And no let's not talk costs if in a fancy hotel.

Anyway

Happy for you that your DH stood by you both. Hopefully a line can be drawn and you move on.

All the best x

ScribblingPixie · 07/06/2023 09:41

Well, at least your DH's family have dealt with it in a way that you are all still talking - that's all I can say. I think your father-in-law's attitude that it's not for him or the 'blood' family to offer his son's stepchild a happy and secure extended family stinks to high heaven, but I guess that's just who they are. Good luck to you and your DH moving forward, OP.

Clarabell77 · 07/06/2023 10:50

PussyGalore1 · 07/06/2023 07:42

I’m always amazed by women who make other peoples’ weddings so bloody dramatic and about them. Just stay at home and let your partners go solo. You both sound deranged and spoilt a lovely day by your tantrums

Why would the partners go without their partners? That’s just as much their choice as it is the bride and grooms choice who to invite, bride and groom need to suck it up.

Iwasafool · 07/06/2023 10:54

Clarabell77 · 07/06/2023 10:50

Why would the partners go without their partners? That’s just as much their choice as it is the bride and grooms choice who to invite, bride and groom need to suck it up.

The usual MN saying of "it's an invitation not a summons" applies.

I'm still amused at the idea of all these grown men being stopped from going to a wedding as their wife/partner won't let them. I don't think I've ever been in a position where I let my husband go anywhere. We are both adults, will discuss what we are going to do but ultimately we decide without the other one needing to let us do anything.

aSofaNearYou · 07/06/2023 10:56

Why would the partners go without their partners?

Because they're not joined at the hip, and this is his family who he is presumably comfortable being alone around?

Nobody HAS to go but I find this argument odd.

beachcitygirl · 07/06/2023 11:19

I'm so sorry Op.
you're well rid of that lot.
I couldn't forgive & forget & im so glad you're husband took you and both your child's side.

So sad that they created 'sides' but they did.

beachcitygirl · 07/06/2023 11:22

Bunbuns3 · 07/06/2023 08:03

I find the responses on here fascinating.
On another thread most people have said that children not invited to a wedding is perfectly fine and reasonable. Now all of a sudden because the child in question is a step child, it is all of a sudden terrible and disgusting that they are not included. Why are step children given preferential treatment by mumsnetters? I am genuinely interested.

Because this isn't about step/children being given preferential treatment, it's about her husbands only child (albeit step) being excluded.

He sees the OP's child as his own. His family should respect that.
I very much doubt there would have been a post had there been no children invited. OP has acknowledged that.

Vintagecreamandcottagepie · 07/06/2023 11:29

So spiteful and mean.

Especially if he's a best man. His child should be invited, his family.

What an awful predicament.

Mayorquimby2 · 07/06/2023 11:48

OhmygodDont · 05/06/2023 18:59

I do find it funny it all the other wedding invite situations on Mumsnet women are told their husband should attend a siblings wedding no matter what and alone if they have too. Here mention a step child and the grooms the big bad wolf.

Our the other thread where the op's husband is upset that a close friend of his wife's has invited their daughter as she's friends with the bride's daughter and has a relationship with but not the step children in the family as she doesn't have a relationship with them.

There it's wall to wall "well this is a good opportunity for him to stay home and have done bonding time while you go to the wedding with your daughter"

WhateverIdo · 07/06/2023 11:52

YABU

Your child is not related to the groom. He has not developed an uncle relationship. Your child is your world but the groom probably has minimal feelings towards them and that's totally understandable. Why should he? They were 9 when the families mixed, your husband hasn't raised them from a young age.

Get over yourself. Enjoy the wedding.

mainsfed · 07/06/2023 13:08

Wow, their post-wedding behaviour proves your DH made the right call.

Please don’t invite any of these fuckers to DSS’s wedding, no matter how much they ‘love weddings’.

mainsfed · 07/06/2023 13:09

WhateverIdo · 07/06/2023 11:52

YABU

Your child is not related to the groom. He has not developed an uncle relationship. Your child is your world but the groom probably has minimal feelings towards them and that's totally understandable. Why should he? They were 9 when the families mixed, your husband hasn't raised them from a young age.

Get over yourself. Enjoy the wedding.

RTFT. Wedding happened. DH didn’t go.

mainsfed · 07/06/2023 13:11

Bunbuns3 · 07/06/2023 08:03

I find the responses on here fascinating.
On another thread most people have said that children not invited to a wedding is perfectly fine and reasonable. Now all of a sudden because the child in question is a step child, it is all of a sudden terrible and disgusting that they are not included. Why are step children given preferential treatment by mumsnetters? I am genuinely interested.

It’s not that hard. It’s about OP’s DS being excluded from the wedding but her other dc being included.

RedToothBrush · 07/06/2023 14:21

Bansheed · 07/06/2023 07:29

I still find your BIL' s attitude so weird. That you don't invite your brother's small family over a new colleague and then are so petulant about it that you try and publicly gain support for doing so, as part of a wedding speech. You do this because it has upset 'the family'. The irony is this decision literally divided family and may now cause a rift that cannot be healed.

The fact that the cousin also weighed in on the wedding being a family get together just strengthens my view.

I am getting married myself. I just cannot fathom it. We have a few people coming that are bringing new partners and blended family because we see them as the immediate loved ones of our loved ones. Weddings are about much more than the day, they are also about the marriage. They are also symbolic of your family joining a community and receiving the support of that community.

Tiny weddings not withstanding, as they exclude most equally, but a larger one that even includes new colleagues, no excuse.

The BIL in saying that she's 'not proper family', that puts the OP's husband in an impossible position.

This is where this phrase is relevant:
Either the step daughter is part of the family or she isn't.

The OP's husband sees the daughter as family, because she absoluetely is to him. He's married and he lives with her full time as the only father figure in her life.

The BIL gave him a choice - accept the step daughters position as being less than all the other guests at the wedding, including non-relations in terms of relations with the family or not attend. This isn't even about being treated as an equal to the SIL's children. Its about being recognised as a part of the extended family.

Given that cousins were attending and no doubt other relations who are only related by marriage (including the cousin's partner???), this says a lot.

The comments about the OP and her making a fuss about this to make up for the lack of the step-daughter's family spell it out:
The OP says this about her FIL: "He does feel however, that I want them to make up for the deficits of my child’s biological family. I most definitely do not but want them to be respectful of our family unit."

They have no respect for the OP, disapprove of her life choices and don't think either she or her daughter are good enough. They don't want to accept the step daughter into the family because of this. Because 'prejudice'.

Family comments at the wedding about the step daughter having to 'take away a place from someone else' merely echo that attitude. Thats not how weddings work. Ultimately they could have just paid for one extra guest - the step daughter wasn't deemed good enough for the family. She's damaged, faulty, tainted, below their social heirachy standards.

Thats a CHILD being rejected through no fault of her own, because she's been misfortunate. Thats stigma - thats a dark age attitude to divorce / single mothers. And thats where the OP's Husband is stuck, because he can see that rejection for what it is. His family regard him as marrying below them and are punishing him for lowering himself to a lower social class.

The OP's own wedding is a problem for that reason - not because it was small and BIL wasn't invited. Its about social class and snobbery. The family doesn't approve of the relationship because the OP is a divorcee with a child, and worst still a child with a deadbeat Dad. They don't want the step daughter because they regard associating with her as giving the opportunity for her to 'leech onto the family' in someway. They don't want the OP's husband to take on the responsibility and see her as his own. They disapprove of the family unit he is happy with and sees as his own.

This needs spelling out. The OP needs to be crystal clear about whats going on and so does her DH - especially if they live in a small community and see people who were regular guests at the wedding. These people aren't worth it. They are insufferable snobs she's best shot of.

However I would say, that you can bet that there will be guests at the wedding who were stunned at the BIL mentioning his brothers reason for not coming and won't be impressed by the BIL. It was a massively dickish thing to do, and others will see through it.

OP, I hope you and your DH are ok. Don't let them drive a wedge between you. Cos thats the aim... They don't think you are good enough for your husband and their family. They will be all to happy to see your relationship fail just so they can go "Well its not a surprise is it. I mean look what happened last time".

ITryHarder · 07/06/2023 15:41

WhateverIdo · 07/06/2023 11:52

YABU

Your child is not related to the groom. He has not developed an uncle relationship. Your child is your world but the groom probably has minimal feelings towards them and that's totally understandable. Why should he? They were 9 when the families mixed, your husband hasn't raised them from a young age.

Get over yourself. Enjoy the wedding.

Many people at any wedding are not related to the bride or groom, so that is a non-issue. Dh's stepson may have been 9 when he entered the family, but we don't know how many years he knew him before they married. Doesn't matter because, apparently, he cares for his dss and aches that he's been rejected... for 4 years. The sister's children were invited so the brothers child should have been also if only for peace in the family, and more importantly because, we assume, the groom loves his brother and shouldn't want to hurt him. He not only placed co-workers over a child he said is a nice kid, he placed them over his brother. And to make matters worse, he betrayed his brother by looking for support for his heartless decision by announcing it to all at the wedding. FIL said he 'understands his reasons', but OP hasn't told us those reasons which extend beyond the wedding to the previous 4 years by the whole family. I can't think of one that would make me want to hurt my brother whom I apparently cared enough about to ask to be my best man or his wife who I apparently accept since she's been invited to the wedding. OP's child will get over it, but he'll always know where he stands in this family even though he and his mother have tried for a closer relationship, and that can't be good. OP will always have a small ache in her heart when she thinks of this wedding or hears it discussed. DH may still have a relationship with his brother, but it'll now have a dark spot it didn't have before.

Was it worth it? To some people in this thread who don't think beyond ridiculous statements like 'he's not related' or 'it's their wedding, they can invite who they want', I guess it was.

Iwasafool · 07/06/2023 15:46

Mayorquimby2 · 07/06/2023 11:48

Our the other thread where the op's husband is upset that a close friend of his wife's has invited their daughter as she's friends with the bride's daughter and has a relationship with but not the step children in the family as she doesn't have a relationship with them.

There it's wall to wall "well this is a good opportunity for him to stay home and have done bonding time while you go to the wedding with your daughter"

That isn't the same, it isn't family excluding their brother's child.

cleanasawhistle · 07/06/2023 15:55

Awful behaviour.
Maybe the bride and groom will have their own children one day, divorce then see this from the other side.

Nanny0gg · 07/06/2023 15:56

Throwncrumbs · 05/06/2023 20:21

Yes but we only have OPs word on that, it may not be the case!

The whole thread is the OP's word!

That's all we ever get so anything else definitely IS supposition

Clarabell77 · 07/06/2023 17:12

aSofaNearYou · 07/06/2023 10:56

Why would the partners go without their partners?

Because they're not joined at the hip, and this is his family who he is presumably comfortable being alone around?

Nobody HAS to go but I find this argument odd.

How is it odd? I can understand couples not accompanying each other to the supermarket or a night out with friends, but it’s pretty much the norm for couples to attend weddings together.

AliceOlive · 07/06/2023 18:04

Nanny0gg · 07/06/2023 15:56

The whole thread is the OP's word!

That's all we ever get so anything else definitely IS supposition

It always gives me a laugh when people say this online. The stakes are extremely low to nonexistent if we take the OPs word and are wrong. Some seem to think they are in a paid role as judge and jury on these threads, and the global justice hangs in the balance.

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