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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think my husband is being staggeringly selfish?

440 replies

SelfishH · 19/04/2023 22:09

Me and DH have one child together. We have decided no more. It was mainly his decision but I do agree with his reasonings although I'd probably have another if really given the choice but I am fine with just the one too, I don't feel desperately sad about no more if that makes sense.

Basically since having our son two years ago I haven't taken any contraception. I tried so many different things and I rarely got on with anything. The depo injection and the implant both gave me excessive bleeding which was absolutely horrible and I begged and begged to have the implant taken out early which they eventually did. I'll never ever try one of those again.

I cannot take the combined pill due to suffering from bad migraines and it was when I stopped taking the mini pill to conceive our son that I realised just how crappy/spotty etc it made me feel. I am absolutely loath to go back on any form of hormonal contraceptives.

This is where my AIBU is because we've just had an argument this evening where DH is now flat out refusing to do anything other than me taking the pill again. Won't use condoms because it's 'not the same' and won't have the snip because he 'doesn't want someone fiddling with his bits' (welcome to my world mate!) And all I have to do is take a pill.

I've asked him why he thinks I should place hormones in my body every day that I don't want so that he doesn't have to use a condom for 10 minutes. Or why I should have someone 'fiddle with my bits' (🤮 sorry) i.e. The coil so that he doesn't have to have it done to him?

His reaction/reasoning / just general way he's being about this is making me dig my heels in even further because I just think how is this solely down to me? He doesn't seem to give one iota of a shit about the reasons why I don't want to 'just take a pill' or any of the other things so long as he doesn't have to be the one to be inconvenienced at all i.e. by just wearing a bloody condom.

AIBU to think he's a selfish shit. He's said he won't have sex until I take some form of contraception and honestly I do not care, no worries at all! I'm not being blackmailed like that into doing something I don't want to do when he's making no effort whatsoever to discuss what he could also do (and I imagine he'd buckle on the no sex and just use a condom far sooner than I would anyway 😂).

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UnRavellingFast · 20/04/2023 08:54

dottycat123 · 20/04/2023 07:03

I am the 1% saying YABU as I pressed the wrong button in error!

Haha good to have that cleared up 😂

padsi1975 · 20/04/2023 08:54

He is selfish. When I finished having children, I told dh I wasn't going on any form of birth control as I felt my body had done enough. He totally understood and got a vasectomy. Birth control is not your sole responsibility and he's an immature man child if he thinks it is. Your body has done enough. It's his turn.

AgrathaChristie · 20/04/2023 08:55

SelfishH · 19/04/2023 22:17

He actually tried to sit there and mansplain the pill to me. ME. The woman who's taken it for over a decade being masplained to by a bloke who wouldn't even know what one looked like. I'm so angry.

He didn't believe me when I said I would bet my house that the vast majority of women who take contraception have some story or another about side effects. He guffawed that 'every other woman gets on fine with it'. Bloody idiot.

I’m not a violent person but that would make me rage to the point of him having his smug face punched, hard.
Tell him real men have a vasectomy.

Travelfan2021 · 20/04/2023 08:58

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TeaserandtheFirecat · 20/04/2023 08:58

He doesn’t sound mature enough to be married, let alone a parent wih his attitude.

Itakecreaminmycoffee · 20/04/2023 08:58

If you are 100% sure you don’t want more children even if you ended up in another relationship, would you consider getting your tubes tied?

Why the help should she? Being sterilised is a much more invasive procedure that having the snip, and he's the one who's adamant he doesn't want more dc.

He can be the one to come up with a solution for himself.

Itakecreaminmycoffee · 20/04/2023 08:59

**hell

GobbieMaggie · 20/04/2023 08:59

Barbecuebeans · 20/04/2023 08:36

Why's that a problem when he's the one that says he doesn't want any more children?

I was responding to some rather glib comments about vasectomy in general. But I guess it could be a problem if, as the OP has clearly indicated herself, he wants to keep his options open too. In that respect my advice to him would be to review the condom option and secure his own fertility, either way.

Peoplearebloodyidiots · 20/04/2023 08:59

Your husband sounds backwards and selfish. Unfortunately so many people are. Your reasoning resonates with me, why should you put your body at risk! The deeper issue here is that he is not listening to you and is being dismissive of your thoughts and feelings. Have you considered having some sort of relationship therapy, it might teach him to grow up!

80s · 20/04/2023 09:01

He's said he won't have sex until I take some form of contraception
"Your selfishness is the strongest form of contraception that exists"

The headaches on the pill are horrible!

Wavinggoodbyetoo · 20/04/2023 09:03

This exact argument nearly finished my marriage. My DH had a vasectomy.

I cannot take the pill.
I took hormones and injected myself and had very medical pregnancies
I had 4 miscarriages
I had 2 terrible deliveries.

I said I’m done, I need your support and I cannot take anymore. My DH wasn’t for moving until he realised I really fucking meant it. I would have left as the selfishness was beyond my comprehension. Once he realised just how upset (and angry) I was he made his piece with it.

GobbieMaggie · 20/04/2023 09:05

Wavinggoodbyetoo ....... peace

Fink · 20/04/2023 09:06

SelfishH · 20/04/2023 07:15

By tracking my cycle and doing other things to ahem... Finish.

Not fool proof my any means I'm aware!

NFP is 99% effective if used properly. The main reason people get pregnant using it is that it's very prone to user error (i.e. people don't want to avoid sex on too many days so they end up having sex on days which are questionable).

I do think your main problem here is your h's refusal to take any responsibility and to try to put all the onus on you. But if you wanted to use NFP long-term, it's an option.

Wavinggoodbyetoo · 20/04/2023 09:06

Wavinggoodbyetoo · 20/04/2023 09:03

This exact argument nearly finished my marriage. My DH had a vasectomy.

I cannot take the pill.
I took hormones and injected myself and had very medical pregnancies
I had 4 miscarriages
I had 2 terrible deliveries.

I said I’m done, I need your support and I cannot take anymore. My DH wasn’t for moving until he realised I really fucking meant it. I would have left as the selfishness was beyond my comprehension. Once he realised just how upset (and angry) I was he made his piece with it.

Ha yes indeed. I clearly can’t multi task, but glad you got something out of it ;-)

Wavinggoodbyetoo · 20/04/2023 09:07

GobbieMaggie · 20/04/2023 09:05

Wavinggoodbyetoo ....... peace

^ Can’t even quote. I give up!

Wheresthebeach · 20/04/2023 09:20

Well...he's pretty horrible and manipulative. Withholding sex? Tragic.

I'm guessing he's a 'my way or the high way' kind of guy generally and it's worked for him up until now.

Stick to your guns. He needs to get the snip. My DH did, was it fun? Nope. But he didn't want to use condoms and I was fed up with birth control issues and it was the best solution all round.

HaggisBurger · 20/04/2023 09:20

SelfishH · 20/04/2023 07:13

so its okay for you to have excuses against all options, but hes not allowed to have a preference at all? YABU give the man a break. abstinence is your only choice.

Give him a break...a BREAK from fucking what!? He hasn't done anything on the contraception front to need a break from!

And yes he's allowed to have reasons / preferences but when those preferences and reasons are blindingly hypocritical i.e. I don't want someone to mess around with my balls so you should get the coil fitted, I'm allowed to say HANG ON MATE?! What?!

And when he's supposed to actually love and care about me and I'm telling him the reasons for my "excuses" (as you put it), which are all pretty horrible day to day affecting side effects, ones he's seen me experience before, and his answer to that is to minimise it and say it's 'just a pill' and refuse to even stick a condom on so that his WIFE someone he is meant to LOVE doesn't have to experience those things anymore, I'm also allowed to call him a selfish fucking cunt.

This was one minor of MANY reasons I divorced my exH. So little thanks or empathy for what I’d put my body through to produce 3 humans (all with massive heads I might add) - plus all the stuff I’d put my body through NOT to produce anymore big skulled humans. Plus my Mum died of breast cancer aged 49.

Wouldn’t ever consider the snip. Absolute selfish twat.

Eventingmum · 20/04/2023 09:28

You are so right to stick to your guns.
Love that he tried to explain it to you.
We need regular updates to how long it goes before he wants to talk to you about sex.

user1471538283 · 20/04/2023 09:28

Years ago before my DS I was on the pill and I was a mess. My ex was many things but it was him who said no more and used condoms. It's not the same my arse!

My DF had a vasectomy years ago. He was in and out by lunchtime, really cheery and looking forward to a big feast!

I would be as angry as you. You've done all the heavy lifting and he just expects you to continue because of his precious "bits". I would let him and his "bits" go ...

DemonicCaveMaggot · 20/04/2023 09:28

I took the pill for one year and had nausea 80% of the time, so you can add me as another data point for your husband's growing collection of 'every other woman'. I refused to permanently go around worrying I was going to vomit over someone all the time like some kind of giant fly and DH agreed that was no way to live.

Nanny0gg · 20/04/2023 09:34

SelfishH · 19/04/2023 22:17

He actually tried to sit there and mansplain the pill to me. ME. The woman who's taken it for over a decade being masplained to by a bloke who wouldn't even know what one looked like. I'm so angry.

He didn't believe me when I said I would bet my house that the vast majority of women who take contraception have some story or another about side effects. He guffawed that 'every other woman gets on fine with it'. Bloody idiot.

You've got a real prize there, OP.

I couldn't even look at him

Mirabai · 20/04/2023 09:36

SelfishH · 20/04/2023 07:51

And honestly, maybe unreasonable but whatever, I don't fucking care if sex doesn't feel as good with a condom for him. In my mind that is absolutely fuck all compared to things like increased risk of cancer, a stroke, acne, weight gain, bleeding between periods, heavier periods, more painful periods, depression, anxiety and on and on. Oh boohoo that he can't get off as quickly with a condom on. I honestly have limited sympathy for that when looking at the alternative for me.

My GP refused to prescribe any type of pill due to migraines with aura + over 35. The risk of stroke is small but significant.

Sarahtm35 · 20/04/2023 09:37

He sounds incredibly childish and selfish. If he’s the one who doesn’t want another baby then In my opinion it’s down to him to protect himself if you have valid reasons not to.
you gave birth, now it’s his turn to do his part.

Nanny0gg · 20/04/2023 09:37

SelfishH · 20/04/2023 07:40

Honestly like I've said if we had a normal conversation about it I'd absolutely take on board his reasons for not wanting to have the snip, it's his body after all.

It's the minimising hypocrisy of the way he spoke to me that has pissed me off. I don't want to do this because of X reason but you should do it so I don't have to

It's his pathetic 'reason' for not using condoms that I can't understand

CommanderSeven · 20/04/2023 09:38

Jeezo. Yes your DH is selfish.

My DH doesn't need to use condoms because I have the coil. Sometimes we still use condoms so I don't have to live with the other after effects!

Yes. Your DH is selfish. 100%.