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to think most blended family situations are unhappy

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Nimbostratus100 · 17/04/2023 08:30

From my experience of many decades as a secondary school tutor, I would say most of the time when children talk about step parents, there is tension and misery ( from the children's point of view, not necessarily the parents)

I am going to say 75% of situations are unhappy, by which I mean most of the children are somewhat unhappy, or one or more child is very unhappy, or the situation breaks down because of parent or child unhappiness. Breakdown could mean the relationship between parents breaks down, or the relationship between a child and step parent breaks down to the extent a teen becomes homeless, or moves out

So to answer this, you probably need to know at least 4 blended family situations reasonably well, yours as a child, parent, or other people's.

I am expecting that some parents will vote that it is happy, when that isn't accurate, as I am aware this is quite common, and the child has a very different feeling than the parent.

However, I will be pleased if I cam completely wrong about this, and lots mare happy! I just dont see it in teaching.

YABU - less than 75% are unhappy
YANBU - 75% or more are unhappy

OP posts:
Nothingisblackandwhite · 17/04/2023 14:44

This whole post is ridiculous! Not only proves that headteachers clearly have preconceived ideas and are unable to be unbiased , probably causing massive harm to their students by not being able to actually being ambiguous but people here also seem unable to see that lots of blended families actually work and everyone is happy . Yes not all , but lots do so calling them “broken families” , or single parents broken families or claiming children from second families cause no happiness to their parents or siblings is simply utter BS .
Lots of blended families are a lot happier than those with married parents , lots of single parents families are a lot happier than those with married parents .
And yes my children have a lot to gain from having a step dad and step siblings and a new sister and their step siblings had a lot to gain from having a step mum and see their dad in love and happy . They gained new friends , more financial stability more holidays ,more reasons to meet new people .
By all means if you choose to try and find negatives on it you go ahead but you will literally be creating them in your head .

HeckyPeck · 17/04/2023 14:45

piratypotato · 17/04/2023 14:40

You can totally love a new half sibling but still be quite unhappy with the way things are.

But, in my experience, the unhappiness was with the fact that the parents separated at all.

I love my half siblings and step parents and I'm really glad my parents were both able to find someone who loves them. They're happy and I'm happy with the new family members I gained.

I think most people who's parents split up will be unhappy because of that. It's often easier to then blame the new step family/half siblings on that than place the anger/upset with your own parents though.

MrsH1983 · 17/04/2023 14:46

@Nothingisblackandwhite Could not agree more, you are spot on.

HeckyPeck · 17/04/2023 14:46

Sunshineandshowers39 · 17/04/2023 14:43

This.

I'm so glad my parents didn't have such a narrow view of life.

My step parents and half siblings have improved my family. My parents are happier and my family is bigger. I wouldn't have wanted to them to alone or for my siblings tommot exist!

VWHoliday · 17/04/2023 14:50

piratypotato · 17/04/2023 14:40

You can totally love a new half sibling but still be quite unhappy with the way things are.

I'm not saying they didn't find the initial separation upsetting but they are very happy with how things have turned out. By the time sibling had come along all was well.

To argue with me though you will say that they are just pretending even as adults that they aren't happy even though I know they are.

VWHoliday · 17/04/2023 14:55

HeckyPeck · 17/04/2023 14:46

I'm so glad my parents didn't have such a narrow view of life.

My step parents and half siblings have improved my family. My parents are happier and my family is bigger. I wouldn't have wanted to them to alone or for my siblings tommot exist!

I agree. Parent are happier and another sibling to love. It's not all doom and gloom.

VWHoliday · 17/04/2023 14:56

Parents not parent.

Minfilia · 17/04/2023 15:02

rewilded · 17/04/2023 10:23

All of them live with us full time because the SDS mother is frankly a waste of oxygen and DDs dad only sees her for a couple of hours a week.

How did you both manage to have children with such losers?

Well, she trapped DH by lying about being on contraception. She fell pregnant about 3 months into the relationship and he wanted to stay to “do the right thing”. It was only after they had children that he realised how ineffectual she actually was. According to everyone that knows her, she actually presented as a reasonable human being until having second DC… then it all fell apart.

As for my DDs dad… he would love to see her more, but she has separation anxiety caused by the trauma of a close death and isn’t comfortable being away from home, so has refused overnight stays since she was 10. He contributes financially, and stays in regular contact, but DD just doesn’t want to spend that much time with him. It actually isn’t his fault, and he is a reasonable dad who has tried pretty hard over the years.

As you can see, things aren’t always that black and white. And happily we’ve both moved on to a much happier and more functional relationship since…

KnittingNeedles · 17/04/2023 15:17

I think there are probably some scenarios which can work. For example A and B have kids, later split. Kids live with A. A then meets and marries C, who doesn't have kids and doesn't want any more. B meets someone else and doesn't have more kids. A,B and C all get along fine.

However when you have A and B having 2 kids together then splitting, A then meets C, who already has a kid with D and another with E, A and C have two kids together, B then goes on to meet F, who already has a child with G, and they go on to have two more kids together - what a huge MESS with dozens of parents, aunts, uncles, grandparents, people who are fully related, half related, step related.

MNisMyGuiltyPleasure · 17/04/2023 15:24

I divorced by exH 8 years ago and I still see my stepkids (they are all adults now) regularly. I don't have kids myself so that probably makes a difference but I think it's telling that even once their dad and I broke up, our relationships continued.

MrsH1983 · 17/04/2023 15:26

MNisMyGuiltyPleasure · 17/04/2023 15:24

I divorced by exH 8 years ago and I still see my stepkids (they are all adults now) regularly. I don't have kids myself so that probably makes a difference but I think it's telling that even once their dad and I broke up, our relationships continued.

That is very telling and lovely that you are all still in contact. If they were truly unhappy with you as they were growing up, I doubt you would have a relationship now.

In my experience, relationships with stepparents can be closer and more healthy than those with the biological parents.

Iwasafool · 17/04/2023 15:28

Holly60 · 17/04/2023 12:21

I do actually think that if you already have children then you need to put the needs of the existing children before your own desire to have another child.

Often having a new sibling can be disruptive, and will inevitably split resources further. If that new sibling is going to be significantly younger than their half siblings that also needs to be considered as a factor.

What may seem a relatively straight forward situation now, may not be in 5, 10, 20 years time.

What children of divorce/blended families need is MORE attention, not less.

I often read that people with existing children decide to have another one with their new partner in order to 'have one of our own'. I'm always a bit Confused- children aren't a commodity or a sticking plaster. Do you really want to bring more children into an already complicated situation?

So do you think my son was joking when he suggested I should get a move on if I wanted another baby with his step father? There was also a considerable age gap but it didn't seem to be an issue, in fact teenage DS told me it made him very popular with girls at school who liked coming round to play with the baby. He seemed to think it was all positive.

We actually waited a few years so as not to rush my children, apparently they got fed up waiting.

Laurama91 · 17/04/2023 15:35

I think it depends on the step parent. My mum passed when I was 6. My dads partner used to compare me and my brother to her sons. Always they wouldn't get or do this. As I got older she hid food/towels/all sorts from me. Sometimes she even left the room when me and my brother walked in. She would cook for her sons while I had ready meal. She would lie about us.

I dont have many memories from being a child but I remember asking my dad for a game and a shirt and she told my dad not to get me them as her sons wouldn't get them both. I only have one parent. They have 2 so would just ask for one each.

Since I've moved out I have only seen my dad twice in a year because I dont want to be around her now I have a choice.

Mangogogogo · 17/04/2023 15:37

Wow.. a thread intended to try to make a massive amount of women feel bad.

god I’m so glad mn is a world away from real life

Gross

katyperryseyelid · 17/04/2023 15:39

I’m not delusional but my ds is now a very happy 21 year old, still living at home with me and my dh (his step father) and we talk about these things.

We moved in together and married when ds was 8.

Ds and dh have always had a wonderful relationship and still do now that ds is an adult.

It’s my dh that he turns to ahead of myself and his father at times.

We have 2 children together, born when ds was 11 and 18. He adores his younger siblings, they are so close despite the age gap. We went to great lengths to make sure he wasn’t pushed out when his sister was born when he was 11.

He still says that when I told him I was pregnant with her it was the best day of his life, he was so happy.

He gets on well with his father, but his relationship with his step mother is strained. I think this was a) because his father moved far away to be with her and b) she had two children and didn’t like ds coming to stay often as it disrupted their routine, so he only went to stay a few weeks a year.

Dh had no children when we met, so I think that made his relationship with ds easier as there were no other children’s feelings to think of.

MrsH1983 · 17/04/2023 15:43

@katyperryseyelid That was lovely to read and you have highlighted an important factor at play. From what you describe, the different families appear affected by the parents attitudes towards the children as opposed to the actual blended family dynamic.

Beezknees · 17/04/2023 15:46

Minfilia · 17/04/2023 15:02

Well, she trapped DH by lying about being on contraception. She fell pregnant about 3 months into the relationship and he wanted to stay to “do the right thing”. It was only after they had children that he realised how ineffectual she actually was. According to everyone that knows her, she actually presented as a reasonable human being until having second DC… then it all fell apart.

As for my DDs dad… he would love to see her more, but she has separation anxiety caused by the trauma of a close death and isn’t comfortable being away from home, so has refused overnight stays since she was 10. He contributes financially, and stays in regular contact, but DD just doesn’t want to spend that much time with him. It actually isn’t his fault, and he is a reasonable dad who has tried pretty hard over the years.

As you can see, things aren’t always that black and white. And happily we’ve both moved on to a much happier and more functional relationship since…

You can't "trap" someone into having a baby. Your DH should have used a condom if he didn't want a baby rather than rely on a woman he'd only been with for 3 months to do it all.

Nothingisblackandwhite · 17/04/2023 15:50

MNisMyGuiltyPleasure · 17/04/2023 15:24

I divorced by exH 8 years ago and I still see my stepkids (they are all adults now) regularly. I don't have kids myself so that probably makes a difference but I think it's telling that even once their dad and I broke up, our relationships continued.

That’s lovely of you and them . My partner divorced his ex 8 years ago , his older son is actually a step son now 21 and altough he has biological son and now a biological daughter ( together ) he is still as much his son and my step son as his bio son . It just comes to show not all step parents are bad and not all step families do it wrong .

Beezknees · 17/04/2023 15:56

mainsfed · 17/04/2023 10:51

Of course it's sexism. How many of the fathers of children of those 90% single women do you think have meaningful contact with their children?

The idea that women should put their lives on hold may have benefits but it's also inherently sexist because in practise (not in your la la la idealism) it's not expected of men.

I find it weird that people think not having a relationship equals "putting your life on hold." It insinuates that women can't possibly be happy alone.

I don't want a relationship, not a serious one anyway. My life is fulfilled enough, a man wouldn't bring anything to it.

Lwrenagain · 17/04/2023 16:08

My DS loves his father and stepmum very much, (I think she's fantastic and whilst we aren't friends who see each other, we send nice messages over holidays etc) however should I pop my cloggs he has made it clear he'd want to remain living with my DP (we had our wedding cancelled over covid, but we've been together 10 years) and his siblings here.
Not because her loves my DP more, he's just more fatherly that his dad is. His dad supports this and would, (not that I'm planning on dying, it's just almost happened a few times!) Be happy to let DS remain with my DP and wouldn't feel pushed out, he just knows he's settled with education, friends and likes that DP is quite routine based, this is is home and safe place.
I think that blended families can be amazing, but the focus needs to be on the kids. We don't use phrases like half brothers or sisters, etc and listen always, I think adults have this fear their children "dictate" to them.
They should always feel comfortable enough to tell you how they feel.
If my DS had ever given me a reason he didn't want my DP involved, I'd have respected that. You only get one childhood.
I think some families are just fucking chaos and they are massively unable to parent effectively with their birth children, let alone bringing stepkids into the mix.

JudgeRudy · 17/04/2023 16:09

I've got 3 examples that I know very well

Family 1-Mum became a step-parent to son 8, daughter 10 when she married her husband. He had 50/50 custody. Most of the 'challenges' were around SD and she ultimately lived full time with her mum and was very low contact with her dad and SM Daughter went off to uni and is now married, likewise her brother. Dad had 2 more children to wife 2. Last weekend all husbands 4 children were at their (him and W2) house. 2 sets of older children now have familied. Their children call SM Nana. Everyone gets on.

Family 2 -Mum and dad both have part time(weekend, weds overnight) access to 2 pre schoolers. Everyone got on with minor squabbling between the younger 2 boys. Both sets of children called the other 'parent' by their name. They did not refer to each other as siblings. Mum and Dad dated for years before living together. When they did, they lasted a year due in part to different parenting styles. Mum stayed in contact with his boys for a bit as local. They're adults now and both sets of kids and parents reflect fondly on the 'adventures' we all had together but have nothing to do with each other.

Family 3 - Dad has 2 young children living with him from 2nd marriage. Blends with Mum (wife 3) who has 3 kids from 3 men. They have 1 more together - baby. Kids get on but some friction with her eldest 2 towards mum(not step dad). Mun n Dad's relationship deteriorates but they 'stick it out' for a few years His youngest was bullied by SM and has been in counselling for this as an adult. His 2nd wife, mum of 2 has regular 'acces' to her 2 children but often takes next child up and 'baby' if it's a treat day out. Those 2 children call her by her name......fast forward, most the kids are now parents. Dad is in hospital. His 2 bio kids and all of Wife 3s kids are at his bedside. The 3 'girls' are off to London this weekend. Baby recently got married and Dad's 2nd wife was invited to wedding (mother to her youngest 2 'step' siblings. So was wife 2s mother who all 4 youngest children (baby, 2 to wife 2 and 1 step to wife 3) call Nana. Wife 2 is particularly fond (protective/nurturing) towards baby and at times has been there for her when she's fallen out with her bio mum or dad. ....all kids vehemently do not use the word step or half. The kids have a great relationship and all love Dad. They don't all get on with Mum from time to time. Baby is the most 'volitile' and mixed up but Dad's only bio son hates SM even as an adult.

And if you think family 3 is complicated, Dad's wife 2 (mother of 2) is also the mum in family 2.

For comparison Family 4 is Mum Dad and 2 daughters. Parents had good long marriage. As children sisters did not get on. Eldest and mum 'fought' throughout teen. Eldest left home at 17. Youngest went to uni. Sisters had minimal contact for 15/20 years. Eldest and mum have had periods of LC. Everyone gets on now and grandchildren too

VWHoliday · 17/04/2023 16:12

Beezknees · 17/04/2023 15:56

I find it weird that people think not having a relationship equals "putting your life on hold." It insinuates that women can't possibly be happy alone.

I don't want a relationship, not a serious one anyway. My life is fulfilled enough, a man wouldn't bring anything to it.

That is your choice though.

Women can be alone. I'm sure I'd be fine. Some people like a relationship though, it doesn't make them pathetic because they can't be alone.

I've read your posts and you seem to think you have done better for your child than those who have gone on to meet someone else.

Not all stepparents are wicked step mothers or abusive step fathers.

Busybody2022 · 17/04/2023 16:23

I think the dynamics of a blended family make it exceedingly difficult. There are so many nuances and dynamics and scenarios to figure out. I'm not surprised so many struggle to get the balance right.

There's plenty of non blended families that are miserable too.

Busybody2022 · 17/04/2023 16:24

I'm another who is very happily a single woman and single parent. I don't want a relationship in my life at this stage. It isnt putting it on hold, just not what I want.

Harrypewter · 17/04/2023 16:47

Qualitative and quantitative research shows that blended families present more problems and are inherently more unstable than the original pairing.

I've just split with my girlfriend, I will never ever without serious vetting and a long dating period let another woman into my children's lives.
Some people are incapable of being a step-parent, they overreach natural boundaries.

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