'A woman's prime is between 18-26'

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AIBU to be annoyed at DP saying this? He's arguing it not from an opinion, but from a 'biological' viewpoint and when a woman is most appealing to men from a biological standpoint.

I am in this age range but bordering on the end of it and having such a crisis about aging anyway (which I HATE because I can't understand why women have this pressure that MEN do not and believe that it is predominantly a societal thing). He disagrees and says it's not a societal influence at all and solely biological and that 'most men' would agree that this is the age a female is 'in her prime'.

(To add, I'd like to think I'm not in my prime now before 25 as I'd be sorely disappointed 🤣).
Surely his black/white perspective of this is wrong? It just annoys me but possibly because I'm so into feminism.

Health wise I’m not sure, menopause has a huge effect on women’s health and sense of well-being, obviously men don’t experience this.

Not necessarily. I don't like this fashionable idea that menopause is always a catastrophe, but I guess that's a discussion for another thread.

Women live longer than men, so it's hard to see how men age better, biologically speaking.

The problem with this statement is that it presupposes that the only thing a woman is good for is the baring of children and if this is the case then I would say yes fine, if you think that is the sole use of women however I would say my prime in my career is now in my 50's with my lifetime of experience and obvious keeping up with modern practices and in my 20's when I could keep up the punishing pace and react fast and still have the energy to go clubbing.
As a parent my prime was my 30-40 when I had the patience and money to invest in my children.
But nope at no point have I ever considered being impregnated as the pinnacle of my existence.
Ps it's the same for men too, older fathers tend to have a higher rate of children with Sen and disability no matter what the mothers age.

The problem with this statement is that it presupposes that the only thing a woman is good for is the baring of children

I think you mean ‘bearing’…

Always good to see someone grasp the pertinent point of a post and add something so insightful to the discussion. 😂

Apologies, that was to the person correcting your spelling not to you!

What a sexist prick....

A woman's "prime" doesn't hinge upon her attractiveness to men. That's just sexist bull crap.

I don't really think there is such a thing as a prime time for humans anyway - you might be fitter and healthier when you're younger, but the experience and knowledge you gain when you're older more than makes up for that. You're different things at different times in your life, so you can't really compare because it isn't like for like.

Possibly regarding fertility but personally I was waaaaayy hotter in my 30s. Undeniably so. I was fortunate to not struggle with fertility so got pregnant later in life with ease too. So for women as a whole? I dunno. But for me? Nope.

I wish I’d appreciated how hot I was at 23 😂 But I’m definitely now more confident and better dressed 20 years later!

Seeing friends and colleagues over the years, women age much better than men. I work in a male dominated industry. So many of them go to seed after 40! The big fat man tummies, moobs and rapidly disappearing hair line don’t get any better. Whereas female friends nearly always make an effort to look as good as possible, dress to suit their figures etc.

Possibly regarding fertility but personally I was waaaaayy hotter in my 30s. Undeniably so.

Me too. I think in terms of looks, that decade is usually the 'prime' for both men and women. Young enough to still be close to your peak in physical terms, but old enough to know what suits you and have developed a bit of 'character' in your looks.

Sounds like a red piller.

Looks and fertility, that's what they're referring to.

Cause that's the only things that matter to shallow Hal's.

Oh and fertility prime isn't even from 18; it's early - mid 20s.

What they're happily ignoring is that men's fertility and looks prime is also 20s.

Personally I think both sexes are also often at best looks (and their fertility is still fine) in their 30s ..... But men like this like to "cliff" women at about 25/26.

The red pillers almost spontaneously combusted when Harry married a 35/36 yr old woman, older than him, and she then had two kids with apparently no problems; to them he's mentally ill and a simp, that's the only way a man would do that.

This is brilliant.

Yes it may be true that those are the most fertile years, but I would argue with that definition of “prime”.

As a pp said, our prime is when we no longer give a shit about men’s opinions.

I might be true that it is peak fertility or peak attractiveness to men but those are pretty narrow and limiting considerations given that my value to myself and to my loved ones is far more than either of those things. I think society conditions women to put way to much emphasis on those things as a measure of worth but as you get older and more comfortable in your own skin and more confident being attractive to random men becomes meaningless and annoying.

Instead you take true joy in the things that you love, that make you happy, you grow and develop as a person, you gain new skills, you discover what you like and don't like, you develop boundaries, you value your whole self much more than just what you look like or how young you are. Honestly men and how they may or may not see you or value you just isn't that important at all.

I mean, purely from a physical body perspective I guess?

But that means he's completely discounting anything to do with personality, self-confidence, achievements, as part of things making somebody 'appealing'.

So maybe it's true purely for the shallow nobs that only view a woman as her body. (I'm in my mid 30s and I've had way more fun and achieved way more in this decade than in my 20s - ignore your stupid DP's comments - no wonder you're stressing about getting older).

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I feel like my prime was probably 22. As in how I looked. I was anxious and awkward and prefer being in my 30s despite the harder to shift weight gain and the chin hairs.

That’s everyone’s prime though isn’t it? Everyone goes off abit after 45. We’ve had friends die of cancer and have strokes and we only late 40s

Well they don't just say that it's to do with age, they also claim that beauty makes them believe they will have healthier kids, and also that a nice big bum shows their baby will be well nourished....the waist hip ratio is important too so they have a great excuse for eying girls/womens bodies up and down.....the 'biology' argument is often used to excuse being creeps!

Biologically it is true. It's a fact. But I doubt most men would be attracted to women in that age bracket; besides the ick factor because they may be too young, there's also the fact that once the age gap is significant, they may have very little in common (and I say that after divorcing a man much older than me but NOT because of the age gap).

Indeed. I hope they apply the same logic to themselves, and unless they're 6' tall, powerfully built, with a strong masculine jaw, symmetrical features and plenty of hair, resign themselves to missing out on fatherhood. After all's said and done, we want the best for our children too. Can't be helped, it's our biology.

Apply the same logic to themselves? 😮😮

You seem to be expecting a lot from these lizard brain men 😂

These men think aging and 'biology' are weird phenomena which only happen to women.