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'A woman's prime is between 18-26'

222 replies

lough · 16/04/2023 19:45

AIBU to be annoyed at DP saying this? He's arguing it not from an opinion, but from a 'biological' viewpoint and when a woman is most appealing to men from a biological standpoint.

I am in this age range but bordering on the end of it and having such a crisis about aging anyway (which I HATE because I can't understand why women have this pressure that MEN do not and believe that it is predominantly a societal thing). He disagrees and says it's not a societal influence at all and solely biological and that 'most men' would agree that this is the age a female is 'in her prime'.

(To add, I'd like to think I'm not in my prime now before 25 as I'd be sorely disappointed 🤣).
Surely his black/white perspective of this is wrong? It just annoys me but possibly because I'm so into feminism.

OP posts:
Daffodilwoman · 16/04/2023 21:46

Women also find young men attractive it’s just thousands of years of conditioning by the patriarchy calling women such things as whores, slags, prostitutes etc if they dare express an interest in sex.
It benefits men to push the idea that women find ugly, bald, fat , old men attractive.

Quitelikeacatslife · 16/04/2023 21:46

Yeah because after this age they won't put up with a dickhead misogynist being obvious

Sandra1984 · 16/04/2023 21:49

My partner thinks a woman’s prime is between 40 and 50, but then he prefers them mature, he doesn’t fancy young girls. Every man seems to have a different opinion regarding women and their “prime” based on their own sexual preference. Personally I’ve been on my prime all my life, if some guy disagrees then that’s his problem, not mine. I look so much better now than when I was on my 20’s.

IcedPurple · 16/04/2023 22:01

Several posters have commented on what their 'DH' thinks about a woman's 'prime' age.

I wonder how many men ask their wives for their opinions about when men are in their 'prime'?

5128gap · 16/04/2023 22:03

It varies greatly depending on the woman. Most of us go through peaks and troughs as far as our attractiveness goes, and our age at any given time is only one factor in that. The only men who obsess over a woman's age tend to be sleezy and old themselves usually. So either your BF is playing on your fears, or he's entered his dirty old man phase early.
(Oh, and if you're a feminist, you'd probably want to bin him off now. You're not suited.)

fizzybubblywater · 16/04/2023 22:07

IcedPurple · 16/04/2023 22:01

Several posters have commented on what their 'DH' thinks about a woman's 'prime' age.

I wonder how many men ask their wives for their opinions about when men are in their 'prime'?

Sport would be a good example of this for men. There’s a reason most footballers retire around mid 30s. They are no longer in their physical prime. Not as fit, fast or able to compete with 18-25 year olds and it can’t be due to a lack of exercise as they do the exact same football training as their younger team mates. But physically, they just cannot keep up.

raincamepouringdown · 16/04/2023 22:10

Bingbangbongbash · 16/04/2023 19:50

If he’s so into biology, maybe he should be educated on monogamy. The best strategy for mating from a biological standpoint is to copulate with a strong, virile alpha male and use a steadfast, reliable beta male to bring them up. Biological cuckolding. Bet he’s less keen on that aspect of biology.

I'd pay good money to watch OP say that to him calmly.

AnImaginaryCat · 16/04/2023 22:13

He's could be seen right about prime from a biological point of view.

However it's the same for men, their biological prime is when they are young.

However, the rest of it he's wrong about. Biological has nothing to do with attractiveness to the opposite sex. As with the nonsense about men in their 40s being attractive to young women - especially if he thinks it's physical attractive.

His wrongness here makes you think he was just accidentally wrong about biological prime. Mind you, if we're honest he's probably not even accidentally right, as biological speaking it's probably even younger than he claimed for women (and men).

cricketcrit · 16/04/2023 22:18

Sounds like the creepy Leonardo di Caprio Envy

Shamsterdam · 16/04/2023 22:19

I was dating someone who came out with gems like that. He dropped a few other phrases too which when I googled them, turned out to be real redpill/manosphere shit. The longer we dated the less he could hide it, misogyny and disdain masked as 'biological facts' but of course according to him men's peak was 40 and that's why older men should date 20-somethings. Yuck. Keep an eye out on this OP in case he's watching or listening to that toxic stuff. It destroyed that very brief relationship!

Sittwritt · 16/04/2023 22:19

It’s just occurred to me that a whole load of us has been captured by the musings of a little umpty and his stupid theory of attraction.

5128gap · 16/04/2023 22:21

Crimeismymiddlename · 16/04/2023 20:38

Looks wise yes. Though honestly I did not start my decline until I was early thirty’s.
It’s such nonsense that men don’t think they have the same decline, some may get better looking as they get older but most start looking really rough a lot earlier than women as they don’t look after themselves.

The only men who get better looking as they get older are the ones who are very unattractive when young. The scrawny, spotty, ugly, badly dressed young man can look much better when he's old enough to grow a beard to hide behind, get to the gym and buy better clothes. For a while at least.

Saltired · 16/04/2023 22:22

IcedPurple · 16/04/2023 21:42

Exactly!

The reality is that people mostly end up with partners 'on their level'.

So unless an older man has something special to offer to a young woman, and the vast majority of them don't, she wouldn't touch him with somebody else's.

Money. It’s usually money.

Soproudoflionesses · 16/04/2023 22:22

I am 46 and wouldn't want to go back to my teen years or even my 20's thanks very much!

I might have been slimmer and fitter then, but my confidence has soared since being in my 40's and nobody gets to take advantage of my good nature like they used to which in my mind is much more important!

Neverhand · 16/04/2023 22:24

Sittwritt · 16/04/2023 22:19

It’s just occurred to me that a whole load of us has been captured by the musings of a little umpty and his stupid theory of attraction.

Yes funny really. His power 😂😂

moveoverye · 16/04/2023 22:26

museumum · 16/04/2023 19:50

A woman’s “prime” is NOT when she’s most attractive to men! It’s when she doesn’t give a fuck what men think and has the wisdom, skill and confidence to excel in her own right, with or without a male life partner.

This and this again!!

Sittwritt · 16/04/2023 22:56

So unless an older man has something special to offer to a young woman, and the vast majority of them don't

so much truth in the latter. Would feed him sweet little whispers of this.

the80sweregreat · 16/04/2023 22:59

I'm double past my ' prime ' now then!

AprilFool23 · 16/04/2023 23:02

Red piller.

AprilFool23 · 16/04/2023 23:08

fizzybubblywater · 16/04/2023 21:24

Oh I’d agree that from an appearance perspective it’s true for women. But it’s also true for men- I see very very few men over 45 who I’d consider to look “hot.” Most men of that age I’ve met or see on Facebook have let themselves go- balding, overweight, no muscle tone etc.
whereas I’ve noticed women tend to look after themselves more purely due to the societal expectations put on women to be attractive.

Yeah it's hilarious how 90% of them are bald/balding, paunchy, jowly etc but persist in peddling "fine wine Vs milk".

When I was in my 20s I fancied the ass off some actors in their 30s and maybe 40s at a push; now I don't fancy any of them, not a chance.

AprilFool23 · 16/04/2023 23:08

(The same a tits who are now 50s, 60s etc., I mean).

AprilFool23 · 16/04/2023 23:12

*actors lol

YukoandHiro · 16/04/2023 23:17

Oh god not mine. Not by a LONG CHALK. I was such a mess emotionally and also had no idea how to dress in a way that suited me then.

ZenNudist · 16/04/2023 23:30

What bollocks. He's a straight up misogynist is he truly believes this and he scores D- for defending it "with science".

Physically (average healthy) human beings do have a prime as they reach adulthood and into their 20s. Genetics and self care help some people maintain this peak for longer. Other people will end up looking and feeling better in later life than when younger due to improving health or e.g.weight loss.

Twatty men who maintain that patriarchal BS that men stay in their prime for longer because of greyhair is sexy on a man but not a woman, dad bod is OK if you drive a premium marque car, being 50 and rich is equivalent to being 25 and fit. They can fuck off. Challenge this shit. It's nothing to do with biology and everything to do with being socialised with a set of patriarchal biases.

Tell him his misogyny is showing, and it's very unattractive.

BTW there are financial, social and intellectual primes to be reached at other ages. I'm 44 and I wouldn't swap and be 25 again.

5128gap · 17/04/2023 07:01

In truth, he can think and say what he likes. The reality is, like most men, he will face strong competition from better looking, fitter, more successful men his whole life, and will find it far more difficult to find someone to have sex with him than a typical woman ever will.
Bars and clubs are heaving with men who are in the prime of their attractiveness. Yet the vast majority, week after week, go home alone. With every decade that takes them further from their prime the number of women attracted to them shrinks further, and the more difficult it gets to find one at all, never mind those at the peak of their attractiveness who can have their pick.
In contrast, most women wanting a sexual partner need do barely more than say so, regardless of their age.
So, tell your BF, he and all the other men who say this would do better to worry about their own value than ours. After all, you don't find many women sitting in their mother's spare rooms bemoaning their lack of sex to similar unfortunates, do you?

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