Friend told daughter to 'fuck off and die'

[leepingup]

My daughter and her friend are both 10, unbeknownst to me yesterday whilst I was in the shower, they pranked called a few of my friends. I found out because one of my friends text me to tell me. I said no more and that was that.

This morning daughter says to me, 'when we prank called your friend, 'Pete' he told us to 'fuck off and die' three times.'

I wasn't really sure how to handle the situation as they obviously shouldn't have been prank calling but also I think it's pretty obvious they are children.

So I text Pete and the messages went like this -

Me - Hey did you say to Amelia to go fuck herself and die yesterday, she said her and her friend prank called you yesterday, I didn’t know. Did you not realise it was her I presume? Xx

Pete - I didn't until she said her name!!! My intuition was right!!!

I don't really know what he means but I feel really uncomfortable about this.

Am I being dramatic? Should I leave it at that? Is it their own fault for prank calling?

You don't think your child should apologise? No wonder she thinks it's ok to behave like that if there's, apparently, no boundaries.

I had prank calls made to me age 15. Nothing was said. Someone picked up the phone and put it down. And occasionally blew a raspberry. It made me very anxious. And it would probably have the same effect on me now. It’s not a harmless prank.

How did so many people make it to adulthood without hearing (and using) the expression "fuck off and die"

I'm late 20s and have only ever used it if I genuinely don't give a fuck if someone's dead, said with vitriol and hate. I've never said it just because I'm annoyed with someone. Telling someone to die is a really serious and vicious thing to say tbh.

So now you know prank calling is a big deal what consequences will you be putting in place?

of course I wouldnt actually do it😃
even I'm not quite THAT reckless!

That sounds like a you problem.

Yeah someone would definitely make something this specific and mundane up.

WTAF is happening on MN today.

Then there's the self righteous lecturers .....

No, it doesn't

Oh come on, it’s annoying but they are bloody kids! Kids do stuff like this. Your friend sounds like a prick telling them to fuck off and die! You know if it’s kids or not.

MN is such a weird alternate universe in terms of what is acceptable and what isn’t!

Are you 10 as well then?

It's not funny, it's just annoying

Maybe. I just don't really understand why you would say something so extreme if you don't mean it.

"Fuck off to the far side of fuck" is clearly just a more elaborate way of saying "fuck off", it's very different to "and die".

Why is "fuck off and die" ok but "fuck off and kill yourself" not ok?

It's a very weird thing to throw around if you don't mean it

Yeah it's really vitriolic & nasty.

That's interesting because I'm in my 50s and while I've heard it and (when I was younger) used it because someone was annoying, I've never once actually said it with vitriol and hate being okay with the idea they might actually die.

I'm not seeing your position as being a sign of a less vicious society.

What I mean by that is it's not light-hearted, or something to just say out of annoyance, surely? Not that I throw it around telling loads of people to genuinely die.

I've said it to an ex after years of abuse when I finally left because I did want him to die, so in an extreme situation.

I think I've said it to one other person in my life.

But people on here are acting like it's a normal thing to say that just means "fuck off".

I don't get how telling someone to die because they are annoying is seen as just a thing you say.

It's just hyperbole. Which is very common when emotions are heightened.

Hang on - you just ignored the fact they prank called your friends? Were you not mortified? I’d be sending grovelling apologies. Prank calls are shit and annoying and Pete was well within his rights to say whatever he wanted to two silly girls harassing him. Hopefully they have learnt their lesson.

My DD (10) went on a sleepover a few nights ago. I found out they’d used DD’s phone to prank call takeaways. Whilst I believe it was led by DD’s mates, she was still involved and I made her call each one and apologise otherwise I’d have taken her phone off her. I think pranks are hideous and o was quite angry with her.

And before people call social services on me, they were prank calling in silly voices and placing fake orders. Not very nice for a small business.

Because it is. As you can see from so many posters on the thread. Just because you don't think it should be used lightly doesn't mean that many, many other people don't take it seriously in any way.

There's nothing else 'to get".

Why did you put in your OP then it was ‘fuck off and die?’

But where is the line?

If fuck off and die is just hyperbole as you don't really want them to die, is fuck off and kill yourself the same? Is it just hyperbole to wish other violent things on someone?

People just seem to throw it around like it's not a serious thing to wish on someone, but fuck off and hang yourself or fuck off and get cancer wouldn't be treated the same as die?

I just don't really get how it's treated as not that big a deal

Because it really, really isn't to the majority of the population.

Christ you're hard work. Just accept that the majority disagree with you and move on.

No, dying is not the same is killing yourself.

Poor Pete got a prank phone call obviously at a bad time which clearly infuriated him. You can’t encroach on someone else’s time as a ‘joke’ and then get upset if they don’t react the way you’d like. He’s not gonna sit there pondering if it is OP’s DD and what an appropriate response is. You harass someone, you get told to fuck off - that’s life.

I wonder if responses would be the same if this was a boy prank calling women. I’m sure people would be outraged.

I’m sure all the friends have survived the trauma of the cat prank call. I think Pete is the one coming across a bit strangely here, not the 10 year olds who are a) 10 and b) not being sweary and scary. Hopefully he’s generally a nice guy and meant it lightheartedly. Kids told not to do this again. Job done.

Then I don't think specifying the way in which you want them to die should be a big deal either, it's the same thing, but people would treat it differently for some odd reason.

Like you'd all just move on in a relationship if someone you had an argument with told you to die???

I genuinely don't know people who use it like this and yes if someone said it to me, I'd assume they really despised me and would like me to die.