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Do you think it is ok for men to post sexualised reviews of women's knickers on M&S website?

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EllenLRipley · 13/04/2023 20:48

M&S does:

https://www.marksandspencer.com/se/kalina-embroidery-high-leg-knickers/p/P60574443.html

IABU: It is fine
IAMBU: Women do not want to be used to facilitate men's fetishes, they should delete sexualised reviews

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potatowhale · 13/04/2023 21:54

WhoToBeToday · 13/04/2023 21:53

No, but it just screams it - they are getting turned on by the pants/by writing a review of the pants/by imagining others reading it. There will 100% be wanking happening

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Ah. Yeah not interested in that. I just want to know if they'll fit me and if the elastic will last.

TiedUpWithABlackVelvetBand · 13/04/2023 21:55

Tempone · 13/04/2023 21:26

What's the problem in men wearing knickers and feeling sexy? I don't see an issue with that? It's not for me but sensuality is different for everyone and it's hardly hurting anyone?

There really are not enough 🙄🙄🙄 in the world for comments like this.

I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you genuinely need it explained to you.

Nothing is wrong with that in the privacy of one’s home, and/or with consenting adults.

Sharing it via online reviews and including other people in it is grim.

AnneKipankitoo · 13/04/2023 21:56

My old school friend, who now lives in the USA , says she was buying a bra from Amazon, and in the reviews there were photos of a bloke.

InTheSquare · 13/04/2023 21:57

Mmm, sadly it has been going on for years. I've also written and complained. M & S don't give a flying fuck.

These men are getting sexual kicks from their fetish in plain sight. Quite why some posters can't see it, or even worse, don't care, christ knows.

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EllenLRipley · 13/04/2023 21:57

Americano75 · 13/04/2023 21:45

This isn't just dick pandering, it's M&S dick pandering.

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Tempone · 13/04/2023 21:59

But they are clearly designed to be 'sexy knickers' bit different if it was a tea towel, there is nothing pornograraphoc or explicit in the review. I don't care if a man is getting his rocks off even writing the review, I dont see how it has harmed me in any way.
I just don't get the outrage.

Atethehalloweenchocs · 13/04/2023 22:00

Ewww. Think my fanny just healed over, I am so turned off by the thought of those men.

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EllenLRipley · 13/04/2023 22:00

EmotionalSupportHyena · 13/04/2023 21:50

Like monkeys wanking for Infinity, eventually they type out M&S knicker reviews.

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Novatherova · 13/04/2023 22:01

Omg where have I been?! I did not know any of this!

Review is disgusting, vomit inducing.

Try on underwear WTF!

Will not shop there again.

SalaDaeng · 13/04/2023 22:03

M&S are very much aware of these reviews and have been for years.
They have a policy of allowing men into the women's changing rooms to try on women's underwear.
They know what the men do in the changing room, while wearing/ using the underwear and that the underwear is put back on the display for unsuspecting women to find.
This has been discussed on MN for years and many of us have complained to M&S.
I don't shop there any more.

Lockheart · 13/04/2023 22:05

It's a bit much but there's nothing to warrant the review being removed to be honest.

Consent is irrelevant when you're reading reviews or posts on a website. I could post anything on here you might not consent to read for example, and vice versa.

It's a slightly yuck review, not a dick pic.

FOJN · 13/04/2023 22:06

potatowhale · 13/04/2023 21:53

Do they really?!! That's gross!! Why doesn't anyone stop them?

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Telling men no is bigotry in 2023.

NualaMay · 13/04/2023 22:07

That’s so gross 🤢

Lockheart · 13/04/2023 22:08

potatowhale · 13/04/2023 21:53

Do they really?!! That's gross!! Why doesn't anyone stop them?

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How and on what grounds would they stop them though? It's not illegal for men to buy women's underwear, and for obvious reasons you can't put CCTV in a changing cubicle.

WeAreBorg · 13/04/2023 22:09

Yeah this is like posting a review on Sainsbos of your newly purchased courgette and saying you had a lovely time shoving it up your bum. Just not a helpful review. Does not help me decide whether to buy or not.

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EllenLRipley · 13/04/2023 22:10

WeAreBorg · 13/04/2023 22:09

Yeah this is like posting a review on Sainsbos of your newly purchased courgette and saying you had a lovely time shoving it up your bum. Just not a helpful review. Does not help me decide whether to buy or not.

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QueenCamilla · 13/04/2023 22:12

I'm surprised I couldn't find more of these fetishistic reviews, going from how much I've heard of them on Mumsnet. I thought there will be proliferation of them but doesn't seem so, not on the sexy undies anyway... So M&S have been deleting the most offensive majority? Or has it never really been THAT bad as painted on here?

P. S. I stopped buying underwear from M&S those moons ago when they allowed men in their lingerie changing-rooms.
I remember getting my maternity bra fitted in M&S - like hell would I want a man in the next cubicle listening (and most likely seeing) some of that process!

SageHoney · 13/04/2023 22:14

That kind of lace underwear covered in lips is surely only worn by people wanting to look or feel sexy, it’s hardly your run of the mill going to work underwear. Lots of women would wear something like this to work - far more so, I'd think, than specifically for seduction. Both the bra and pants are a practical, classic style with lots of coverage and support, opaque over the erogenous zones, no VPL. The little touches like lacy sides and lips/red satin details are fun and whimsical and would be invisible when fully dressed (as the other review pointed out).

This reviewer's fulsome, OTT prose exaggerating the erogenous appeal of the "sexy panties" is like the flip side of someone giving a specific perfume a one-star review and writing "Ewwww, I hate fragrance; it always gives me a headache!" Probably true, and a legitimate viewpoint - but not very useful, and it diminishes the utility of the reviews as a tool for serious shoppers.

Lysianthus · 13/04/2023 22:16

EllenLRipley · 13/04/2023 21:00

I wrote and complained and was told I was wrong. I wrote back and was told they would not be removing it and I was not to write to them about it again. They seem to be focusing on the male fetish market.

It's been removed from the uk site. Perhaps they struggle to remove from the Swedish one. But would be worth pointing this out to them. Looks like they listened to you.

WhiteBobbin · 13/04/2023 22:16

EllenLRipley · 13/04/2023 21:00

I wrote and complained and was told I was wrong. I wrote back and was told they would not be removing it and I was not to write to them about it again. They seem to be focusing on the male fetish market.

This is the shocking part. Telling you to drop it!

FOJN · 13/04/2023 22:17

I'm surprised I couldn't find more of these fetishistic reviews, going from how much I've heard of them on Mumsnet. I thought there will be proliferation of them but doesn't seem so, not on the sexy undies anyway... So M&S have been deleting the most offensive majority? Or has it never really been THAT bad as painted on here?

Well I don't think anyone claimed that the male market for women's underwear was as big as the women's market so there will obviously be fewer reviews but reviews of this nature have been posted for quite a few years. Obviously you can't read the reviews for products which are no longer sold.

thenightsky · 13/04/2023 22:17

Makes me wonder, are men allowed to try on women's underwear in store...?

Yes, they are allowed and they do. I was stood behind one in the lingerie changing room queue in the Leeds store. I was trying to make eye contact with the staff member on the counter as you go in, but she studiously ignored my wide eyed stares and let the fella in!

WhiteBobbin · 13/04/2023 22:18

SalaDaeng · 13/04/2023 22:03

M&S are very much aware of these reviews and have been for years.
They have a policy of allowing men into the women's changing rooms to try on women's underwear.
They know what the men do in the changing room, while wearing/ using the underwear and that the underwear is put back on the display for unsuspecting women to find.
This has been discussed on MN for years and many of us have complained to M&S.
I don't shop there any more.

I did not know that, that is fucking grim. Go M&S.

YouveGotAFastCar · 13/04/2023 22:19

EllenLRipley · 13/04/2023 21:00

I wrote and complained and was told I was wrong. I wrote back and was told they would not be removing it and I was not to write to them about it again. They seem to be focusing on the male fetish market.

I would be really interested in how they phrased this.

Both because they do appear to have removed it from the UK site; and because I'm massively interested in how they justified keeping this and asked you not to contact them again in any kind of polite manner.

WhoToBeToday · 13/04/2023 22:19

Tempone · 13/04/2023 21:59

But they are clearly designed to be 'sexy knickers' bit different if it was a tea towel, there is nothing pornograraphoc or explicit in the review. I don't care if a man is getting his rocks off even writing the review, I dont see how it has harmed me in any way.
I just don't get the outrage.

But do you want to read about this if you just want to gauge what size to buy or if they wash well, and have a quick read of the reviews to try and work it out?

I would be equally as inappropriate for a woman to write about them "lovingly and enthusiastically stimulating their clitoris when they walked up the stairs". But you know, a woman is unlikely to do that, as it is imposing unnecessary sexual information in an inappropriate place. A shopping review is not the place to impose you getting your rocks off.