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Nursery issue - Toddler was told not to tell me

132 replies

crimsonpeak · 13/04/2023 20:48

What would you do in this situation?

DD (2) is a lively, chatty and happy little girl. After I picked her up from nursery today she told me that another little girl had hit her on the hand with a toy and that she had told the little girl that she was going to tell me about what she had done. She then said a member of staff had told her not to tell me.

So - a nursery worker told my child not to tell
me about an upset at nursery. I am not concerned about the ‘incident’ - neither child was injured, kids snatch and bash, it’s what they do and it’s our job to help them develop into kind and thoughtful adults. My concern is that my DD was told not to tell me about it. I think in any context this is not the right thing to be saying to a child, whether you think the incident was minor or otherwise.

I raising my DD to know that she is to come to me and tell me if anything has upset her. If someone has hurt her etc. I have my own history of childhood trauma so it is very important to me that my child knows that she can come to me, always. I was told not to tell about what was happening to me as a child and I didn’t and things got very bad for me.

I have spoken to nursery who seem more concerned about my child’s behaviour towards the other girl than about my concerns that they have told a child not tell their mother something that upset them. They said my child put their finger in the other girls face and was unkind and made the other girl cry. I said I didn’t condone that but that was not my main issue.

The manager said they want to talk to my child about how to be kind at nursery and I have said I am fine with this but I also want to be present to reiterate that she can come to me and tell me anything. I now feel this is too much and what actually should have happened is at the time of the ‘incident’ the staff should have said what she did was not right but that she could talk to me about it, of course. The manager described my child as wilful and that if she was male she probably wouldn’t have responded with such upset - to which I said that I know my child is ebullient and I don’t want her to be inappropriate with other kids but also I do feel that as soon girls are told too young that they need to ‘be kind’ and effectively smile and suck it up.

AIBU? What would you do now in my shoes? I feel very upset about it but also relieved that my little one was able to tell
me about it.

OP posts:
IfYouDontAsk · 13/04/2023 20:52

I would remove my child from that nursery immediately. It’s disgraceful that not only did a staff member tell your child to keep secrets from you, but that the manager seems to think that this was acceptable. The culture at that nursery is clearly rotten to the core and your child is not safe there.

Secondly, the way they’ve spoken about your child to try to deflect attention from their failings is awful. Get your daughter away from that place!

Yellowrosesmakemehappy · 13/04/2023 20:55

Are they accepting that your child is telling the truth??

Thats awful if they actually said that! Your child should be able to tell you ANYTHING!

Cakecakecheese · 13/04/2023 20:55

I'd be worried what else they're telling kids not to tell their parents!

NuffSaidSam · 13/04/2023 20:58

There is no way this happened.

Have you spoken to the member of staff in question?

AnnaTortoiseshell · 13/04/2023 20:59

I’m wondering if your DD said she was going to tell on the other child, and she was encouraged not to do that - in a ‘don’t tell tales’ kind of a way. I can see how that could happen, even if I don’t agree with that. From your post I get the sense that your DD might be a bit of a handful. Wilful is teacher speak for a bit of a dickhead…

Having said that, I would expect that the nursery would take these concerns really seriously as, of course, you are right that she should never be discouraged from telling you anything!

I would be looking for a new setting and also reflecting on my own parenting and my DD’s behaviour.

Hankunamatata · 13/04/2023 21:01

So your daughter put a finger in the girls face and did an angry 'I'm going to tell my mummy on you' type scenario? The member of staff probably said something along the lines of being unkind to threaten others and its not nice to tell tales to mum etc

SparkyBlue · 13/04/2023 21:04

Hankunamatata · 13/04/2023 21:01

So your daughter put a finger in the girls face and did an angry 'I'm going to tell my mummy on you' type scenario? The member of staff probably said something along the lines of being unkind to threaten others and its not nice to tell tales to mum etc

That's what I think happened. The other child then probably got upset as she was expecting you to come in mad at her. All totally normal behaviour from the children.

Ludo19 · 13/04/2023 21:04

IfYouDontAsk · 13/04/2023 20:52

I would remove my child from that nursery immediately. It’s disgraceful that not only did a staff member tell your child to keep secrets from you, but that the manager seems to think that this was acceptable. The culture at that nursery is clearly rotten to the core and your child is not safe there.

Secondly, the way they’ve spoken about your child to try to deflect attention from their failings is awful. Get your daughter away from that place!

This

Lulabelleblue · 13/04/2023 21:05

Her speech and language skills sound very advanced....

MelchiorsMistress · 13/04/2023 21:07

I think you need to think about the context in which this was said. If your child was being unkind to another child and as part of that unkindness she said she was going to tell you then it was right that she was pulled up on it. You probably should put some focus on your dd’s behaviour.

That said, I completely agree with you that children should never be given the message that an adult wants them to hide things from their mum. It is acceptable with the explanation of keeping a nice surprise, but not in any other context. I can imagine it was quite a difficult thing for the nursery worker to balance.

Thai is probably the time to start trying to talk to your dd about the concept of ‘telling tales’.

Seashor · 13/04/2023 21:08

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VestaTilley · 13/04/2023 21:08

Report to nursery management and Ofsted.

alyceflowers · 13/04/2023 21:09

I can imagine this happening in a 'I'm going to tell my mummy on you!' way and the adult saying mummy's aren't getting involved/you're not telling mummy, I'm dealing with it now.
Rather than a nursery worker saying 'you mustn't tell mummy about this'.

What did the manager actually say happened?

Justdontbejudgy · 13/04/2023 21:10

I didn't even get to the end of your post. Entirely unacceptable conduct by staff member. Any hitting regardless of "reasons" needs an incident form etc etc...no secrets, ever.

Mum2jenny · 13/04/2023 21:11

Definitely report to Ofsted

drpet49 · 13/04/2023 21:12

NuffSaidSam · 13/04/2023 20:58

There is no way this happened.

Have you spoken to the member of staff in question?

This. I don’t believe it happened either.

sweeneytoddsrazor · 13/04/2023 21:13

Is it not more likely that the staff member said its unkind to do that , if someone hurts you instead of putting your hands in their face and saying you will tell Mummy, you come and let teacher know so we can sort it out.
And no I don't think you should be present when they talk to her about being kind

AuntMarch · 13/04/2023 21:14

I work with 2-4 year olds, language level described is advanced, but not out of this world unrealistic. We usually have some holding proper conversation.

As far as OP goes, I really hope PP is right and it was something about not being nice to tell tales rather than "you mustn't tell your mum", although I still wouldn't like it and it shouldn't be coming from safeguarding trained staff imo.
Worse still is the way they are talking about a two year old. I would be looking at my options, at least to have something lined up when she is three if not sooner.

sweatynoob · 13/04/2023 21:14

I imagine the staff member said something like ‘You dont need to wait to tell your mummy these things - you can tell me and we will sort it’

You’re making a drama over nothing

Mum2jenny · 13/04/2023 21:15

I’d be escalating this as I think there could be safeguarding issues

Tandora · 13/04/2023 21:15

What?! This is a non event involving two 2 year olds?! This whole post is completely ridiculous.

ReadersD1gest · 13/04/2023 21:16

Pure nonsense.

nomoredriving · 13/04/2023 21:18

And she's 2??

AdeIe · 13/04/2023 21:20

Have the nursery told you what they actually said to her given that she's 2?

Macaroni46 · 13/04/2023 21:21

Tandora · 13/04/2023 21:15

What?! This is a non event involving two 2 year olds?! This whole post is completely ridiculous.

Agreed.
No wonder people don't want to work in nurseries! Thankless task.