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To think being a housewife might be nice ?

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Felixss · 13/04/2023 14:55

I'm on leave I've managed to get the housework done the deep cleaning , decluttered, sorted my clothes and 3 tip runs. I've washed the covers on the sofa and got through a mountain of laundry. Food shop delivered, put away and ordered DDs new shoes. I'm going to sand down and paint DDs chest of drawers. To top it off I've cooked a lovely healthy meal for the family.
I feel really pleased I've managed to do all the jobs I've been meaning to do. I'm always snowed under stressed from work and end up not doing it all. I do have a cleaner but they don't do the nitty gritty really.

AIBU to think being a house wife actually might be nice ? Less pressure and you can complete all the home stuff at your leisure. 🤣 I wouldn't do this as I've worked so hard to get where I am but I can see why it might be tempting.

OP posts:
Botw1 · 15/04/2023 18:45

Nuance equals I know its sexist but I dont care.

Which is fair enough but just say that

Botw1 · 15/04/2023 18:48

Also not sure why 'wanting to be with their children ' s being brought into it as the op specifically says they don't want to look after children and wps (I'm pretty sure) want to be with their kids too

echoo · 15/04/2023 18:51

"Nuance equals I know its sexist but I dont care."

Nuance does not mean that at all.

Itsnotpacific · 15/04/2023 18:56

echoo · 15/04/2023 18:51

"Nuance equals I know its sexist but I dont care."

Nuance does not mean that at all.

I think she was being sarcastic, it's nuanced you see 😂

Betse84 · 15/04/2023 18:57

Surely it depends who to? Midwife on the maternity ward is zero use to my hungry children and exhausted husband just as I am zero use to a woman in labour.

It’s wrong to label anyone as useless or not as good as you because they don’t do what you do. You haven’t got a clue what someone else’s day to day is like or why they do it.
I left work to be kept, then I raised my own children.
Before I left work I was looking after forces children in their boarding house. You’re being myopic and that gets debate nowhere. Being a housewife isn’t for everyone, working isn’t for everyone being a SAHP isn’t for everyone. Relax, I’m sure your job makes you worthwhile

GetYourActTogether1 · 15/04/2023 19:06

Genuine question to the 'housewives' with older children who speak of reading, napping and other leisure activities during the day...
Do (or did) you feel no pressure from your working partner to 'earn' your share of their income through domestic chores? Were they happy to work and share their salary knowing you might be napping?

My DH always seemed to be very happy to share his salary knowing I was at the spa/napping and I’ve never felt any guilt in doing so. I think between us we wanted our life to be as non stressy as possible. One of our priorities was to give our DC the nicest childhood we could and the other was to put enough in my DH’s pension so he could retire at 55 (which he did) so that we could both spend the day napping or doing whatever we want.
I can hand on heart say my DH has never made any little digs about his salary paying for everything. He often speaks of when the DC were very young and how did I managed so well etc. I didn’t find it hard as used to send them to nursery a few sessions a week
and joined a gym with a crèche. I’m not into making life more difficult than it needs to be.
I think we both got lucky finding each other.
My DM worked full time from
when I was 6 which was fairly unusual then and I can remember my parents arguing about who should pay for the Sunday papers and other petty things like that.

Itsnotpacific · 15/04/2023 19:13

Betse84 · 15/04/2023 18:57

Surely it depends who to? Midwife on the maternity ward is zero use to my hungry children and exhausted husband just as I am zero use to a woman in labour.

It’s wrong to label anyone as useless or not as good as you because they don’t do what you do. You haven’t got a clue what someone else’s day to day is like or why they do it.
I left work to be kept, then I raised my own children.
Before I left work I was looking after forces children in their boarding house. You’re being myopic and that gets debate nowhere. Being a housewife isn’t for everyone, working isn’t for everyone being a SAHP isn’t for everyone. Relax, I’m sure your job makes you worthwhile

I should imagine it refers to a longer period of time than right now.
Presumably your DC were delivered by a midwife?
Safely?
There you go then.
Teachers, Doctors?

Oh yes and WOHP feed their hungry children too .

MaroonCow · 15/04/2023 19:14

Midwife on the maternity ward is zero use to my hungry children

Who delivered them and oversaw them during your pregnancy?

Betse84 · 15/04/2023 19:18

Sweetie, I literally said I’d be useless to a woman in labour - ergo stating a midwives use.
bit dystopian if we’re going to rank everyone on their use to society no? Are we not better than that yet?

Botw1 · 15/04/2023 19:19

Sweetie?

Betse84 · 15/04/2023 19:19

It’s true. She’s not coming to my house to feed my kids is she? You all need to relax 😂

Betse84 · 15/04/2023 19:19

A problem?

SouthLondonMum22 · 15/04/2023 19:24

Betse84 · 15/04/2023 19:18

Sweetie, I literally said I’d be useless to a woman in labour - ergo stating a midwives use.
bit dystopian if we’re going to rank everyone on their use to society no? Are we not better than that yet?

We all live in society and should contribute if we can. It's a simple fact that a midwife is more useful to society than a housewife.

Betse84 · 15/04/2023 19:27

No one mentioned society before. Just general usefulness. I simply stated depends who to. Which is, again, a fact.
I’m contributing by raising my children to not judge other people’s life choices, I’m proud of that. I don’t feel like I need a middle management title to be proud of what I do or contribute and I am sorry if that offends some of you. If you’re proud of your job that’s also great for you, it’s cool that we are different, let’s celebrate that instead of trying to rank me against a midwife 😂

echoo · 15/04/2023 19:29

A midwife may be useful to society in the context of her job, but if she is a bigot or generally unpleasant person in wider life, then that's not much use to anyone in society, is it?

5128gap · 15/04/2023 19:31

Betse84 · 15/04/2023 18:57

Surely it depends who to? Midwife on the maternity ward is zero use to my hungry children and exhausted husband just as I am zero use to a woman in labour.

It’s wrong to label anyone as useless or not as good as you because they don’t do what you do. You haven’t got a clue what someone else’s day to day is like or why they do it.
I left work to be kept, then I raised my own children.
Before I left work I was looking after forces children in their boarding house. You’re being myopic and that gets debate nowhere. Being a housewife isn’t for everyone, working isn’t for everyone being a SAHP isn’t for everyone. Relax, I’m sure your job makes you worthwhile

I think its safe to say that the midwife would be more than capable of feeding a man and some children should the need arise, so would of course be useful to your family.
She is also capable of highly skilled professional work. So when comparing her to a (hypothetical) woman who's skills lie solely in the domestic sphere, she is obviously the more 'useful' as she is multi skilled. She is also more useful as her usefulness benefits multiple people rather than just one man and her children.
There's a mid point between labelling someone as useless (which would be offensive and wrong) and presenting routine domestic duties done for the sole benefit of one's family as on a par with essential, skilled paid work. Like it or not, it simply isn't of equal value, and it's disrespectful to women in those jobs to pretend otherwise.

Itsnotpacific · 15/04/2023 19:33

echoo · 15/04/2023 19:29

A midwife may be useful to society in the context of her job, but if she is a bigot or generally unpleasant person in wider life, then that's not much use to anyone in society, is it?

Was that aimed at me?

SouthLondonMum22 · 15/04/2023 19:33

5128gap · 15/04/2023 19:31

I think its safe to say that the midwife would be more than capable of feeding a man and some children should the need arise, so would of course be useful to your family.
She is also capable of highly skilled professional work. So when comparing her to a (hypothetical) woman who's skills lie solely in the domestic sphere, she is obviously the more 'useful' as she is multi skilled. She is also more useful as her usefulness benefits multiple people rather than just one man and her children.
There's a mid point between labelling someone as useless (which would be offensive and wrong) and presenting routine domestic duties done for the sole benefit of one's family as on a par with essential, skilled paid work. Like it or not, it simply isn't of equal value, and it's disrespectful to women in those jobs to pretend otherwise.

Exactly.

Betse84 · 15/04/2023 19:34

No one is doubting the skills of a midwife, or teacher or any other worker. It’s simply not okay to say that what a SAHM or Housewife does is useless because they chose to do it rather than were forced to.
It’s also wrong to rank people based on what they offer society, that could become a very murky debate.
Noone is better than anyone else because they have a certain skill!

echoo · 15/04/2023 19:34

Why would it be aimed at you Itsnotpacific?

Betse84 · 15/04/2023 19:34

Is it not disrespectful to other women that have chosen to not work to say they’re useless and not as good as someone that does?

mbosnz · 15/04/2023 19:36

Sometimes it all seems a bit 'Animal Farm' , us pleb's arguing about who is more useful and worthy.

Itsnotpacific · 15/04/2023 19:37

echoo · 15/04/2023 19:34

Why would it be aimed at you Itsnotpacific?

Well I'm the only midwife here?

It's poor form, just because someone disagrees with you to snipe like that.
Form a decent argument not resort to PA attacks.

echoo · 15/04/2023 19:39

I did not know you were a midwife. I only used midwife in response to the comment before.

I

SouthLondonMum22 · 15/04/2023 19:40

Betse84 · 15/04/2023 19:34

No one is doubting the skills of a midwife, or teacher or any other worker. It’s simply not okay to say that what a SAHM or Housewife does is useless because they chose to do it rather than were forced to.
It’s also wrong to rank people based on what they offer society, that could become a very murky debate.
Noone is better than anyone else because they have a certain skill!

I'm not saying they are useless. I'm sure they are very useful to their families.

They don't contribute as much to society though.

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