To think blaming Brexit for all our current issues is outdated

[Bethatlass]

When Brexit was being voted on in 2016 Obama was president in the US, George Osborne was chancellor, David Cameron was prime minister, most people had never even heard of Wuhan in China. Since then we’ve had a trump presidency, a way in Ukraine, a global pandemic, massive political change etc. To put it into context my own DD was still in primary school when it happened and is now ready to go off to university in a matter of months. I’m not denying that Brexit has caused and contributed to some of the current issues. However, none of us could have possibly known about Ukraine or the pandemic when we were voting on it and none of us could have possibly known the change in politics we would have of those delivering it. FWIW I didn’t vote leave, although I was torn at the time, while I still think I was right to vote remain I don’t blame those who felt differently almost a decade ago. Therefore, Aibu to think that blaming those who voted for Brexit/Brexit itself for all our current issues is outdated.

What a ridiculous post.

Brexit has been a monumental disaster for this country - still is, and will be for the considerable future.

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Sadly not. Brexit has fucked things up for our country monumentally and we'll be feeling the effects for a very long time.

The other factors haven't helped but Brexit is a shit show.

I don’t blame brexit for covid or the war. But there’s a funding crisis in the nhs and brexit was supposed to save money and fund the nhs. Everything it advertised hasn’t happened. I know that was the thing a lot of people voted for and the result is the opposite.

Outdated? We only left the EU fully in 2021.

Covid and Ukraine didn’t take away my right, and my families right for generations to come, to live and work in 27 other countries.

So no, you don’t get to say, oh that’s all in the past. It affects all of us and our children and grandchildren.

Brexit is probably why all the worlds troubles affect the uk harder

We will do worse than other g7 counties because ... you can't blame covid or the Ukraine for that

No one is blaming Brexit for Covid or the war in Ukraine. They’re blaming it, quite reasonably, for its considerable contribution to worsening the UK’s economy, and rendering it an increasing irrelevance in terms of international politics and commerce. I really don’t see the relevance of your daughter’s age, unless you think that there’s some kind of statute of limitations on the after-effects of monumentally stupid political acts?

Brexit wasn't a one off event that happened in 2016. Not being in the EU has been going on since we left and will continue to have implications for the rest of our lives. I've seen several posts and threads now of the "Brexit was years ago, get over it" type and it's really short sighted. It wasn't a single event that we should have now got over, as we are living with the impact every day. Covid and Ukraine war have also impacted us but not being in the EU is causing lots of issues too.

The Brexit referendum was a long time ago but we will continue to not be in the EU for the rest of our lives and it will continue to affect us.

We still haven't implemented all that Brexit has to offer. This autumn we have so much fun to look forward to at the borders. We thought that this winter provided great opportunity to supermarkets to show their shelf display creativity. Wait until the full border checks come in. Artfully displayed potatoes and turnips at every corner, punctuated by great mounds of slightly rotting cabbages.

As for travellers, like playing games such as eye spy, think of a number etc? So many more opportunities to play extended versions once biometric checks take place at ports. Just don't forget to bring your own portaloo.

None of the other issues have caused:
passport queues

customs forms for business to be so overwhelming that many have stopped EU trade or gone out of business
reintroduction of phone roaming charges
loss of pet passports
relaxation of environmental protection (note current water quality and lack of government control).

That list is just the start of the negatives before you even consider what restrictions on freedom of movement and work mean.

Came on to say this.

Brexit will not cause much in the way of terrible disasters, it will be a death of thousand cuts.

We'll barely notice day to day.

Then we'll go to France or Germany and be gobsmacked at the better standard of living there and how expensive everything seems to us.

Take twenty or thirty years for it all to become clear.

You think that's bad? Taxes were introduced in the UK in 1799 and people are still banging on about them!

Don't be ridiculous. The full effects of Brexit have yet to be felt; it was only implemented the year before last.

The Windsor framework has literally only been agreed in the last few weeks and still isn’t acceptable for many in NI. I would hardly call brexit ‘outdated’.

Outdated? It’s barely begun. Do some research.

How long should the effects of a change like that take, out of interest? What were you expecting? 6 months and done?
We couldn't put sewage into the sea, for instance, under the EU; we do now. How long should it take for the effects of that to become fully apparent? 10 days and done?

It's because so many people didn't do any research before voting that we've got this appalling shitshow, isn't it?

No, you’re being ridiculous. Brexit is a disaster and will be for our kids as well

Alot of people don't seem to understand this.

They think Brexit happened in 2016.

ANOTHER Brexit thread? For crying out loud people, get a hobby

You first

From the tax year 2019/20 to 2022/23 the NHS budget has increased by over 15%, which is around £30 billion a year extra. This does not include the additional £50 billion during the main Covid spike in 2020/21.

The UK government has never given out so many hand outs than they have in the last few years, from protecting businesses and jobs during Covid by paying peoples wages who couldn't work, to the energy price guarantee, to increasing minimum wage dramatically, to all the cost of living handouts.

The thing is like taxes as someone else mentioned. What does moaning about it actually accomplish. Nothing we just get thread after thread of being moaning about Brexit and blaming everything on Brexit. It don’t change nothing though it’s pointless.

I think the worst thing about it was that it divided you.

people voting for Brexit did not know what they were voting for, they wanted a change but were voting in the dark. Both sides were lied to and nobody had a crystal ball.

I really think the way through it is to forgive each other.

And also re-join again. 🍌

And I do believe that will happen eventually.

Think harder OP. It may help you.