Those of you who voted for Brexit when is it going to get better and how?

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I didn’t and didn’t see any benefits. Tried to refocus anger about the lies during the campaign to resignation and acceptance. Was ready to try and embrace/ focus on positives and move forward but still really can’t see any. Now just getting increasingly worried and also fearful.

Hit me with all the benefits and when we’re going to see them impacting our lives.

So please tell me, what else you are waiting to happen?

To go be the fastest growing of the major economies as we were in 2016 instead of one of the most poorly performing?

Absolutely tragic@GasPanic . You mention money transferring from middle classes to working classes, no mention of the wealthy- money definitely not transferring from them. It's often the middle income earners that actually spend money that creates jobs and services that the 'working class' use- that builder who now wants £100k for a minuscule renovation job etc- and I wouldn't be so sure that wages will rocket for working classes either- in some cases stuff will close if it can't make it work. That does no one any favours. You tell me why it's beneficial that the HGV driver earns more than a junior doctor.

I truly thought I would feel smug and love the ability to say I told you so when brexit obviously went tits up. But in reality it’s just sad that so many people fell for the Tory spiel and we all suffer for it.

Also if you did vote for brexit and regret it, that’s ok! But stop calling people mentally unwell when they (rightfully) point out it’s a shower of shit. Own your mistake.

No do I think Leavers thought it would be easy, that our EU membership money would all be spent in the NHS or it would stop brown people coming to the UK.

A large number of them did. It's why they did it. Yes there were some people who thought it through more than that.

We will have to go back into the SM and CU to save the economy. But the EU will not have us back until Brexitism is finally stamped out which may take a generation.

Where can you see the groundswell represented politically?

I don’t think it’s reaching MPs

It will only get better when we have a Government that:
1 - is not self-serving;
2 - truly represents the needs, aspirations and welfare of the population as a whole;
3 - recognises that we are geographically, historically and culturally European
4 - has the courage to ask the electorate for its honest opinion

No, it's just no one can still think of any benefits despite numerous questions. No one can justify the stupidity of this decision

Any idea how much has been UNDERSPENT by the NHS? Those waiting lists are made up of operations not taking place, prescriptions not being given ...

Are all the posters suggesting the OP 'get help' aware of the utter shitshow NHS mental health services now are? My severely anxious autistic daughter has already waited three months for a PRIVATE therapist appointment, having been unable to get any meaningful help from CAMHS. You think anyone has space for people who are angry - rationally and understandably - about Brexit?

Are we still flogging this dead horse?

I was in Brussels with my son the other day and we visited the Parliamentarium, on a personal level I feel it is a shame that we voted as a nation to leave the EU, which was founded after times of conflict in Europe with, at least in part, having the political aim of being stronger together.

We are a small Island off mainland Europe, that's the reality. We held power globally because of colonialism. Times have changed. We do not hold the power of the past.

I agree with the poster above who voted leave that our Politicians have failed to make the best of the situation we are in. That's what I resent now and what I think the focus needs to be on.

The vote has happened, we can't change it, we can blame the lies that the voters were told rather than the voters themselves. On the face of it I can understand why many voters voted leave. What I can't understand now is the apathy and ease with which they accept the lies that, in some cases, persuaded their vote and how they continue to accept lies that the current position that the UK is in, vis a vis, other G7 nations has nothing to do with Brexit when that is too simplistic.

Whether you voted to leave or remain, it is valid to seek the truth of the impact of Brexit, why hasn't there been any formal review into its impacts? Without fully understanding those we can't move on and do the best with the situation we are currently in which is what is desperately needed. I know the reasons that no review has happened. Those reasons are unacceptable .

I didn't/don't have enough knowledge to argue/offer rebuttals to my parents about how things were in the 70's, but I sometimes wonder if they are wearing rose tinted specs which is perhaps in turn leading them to think they were voting for x when in a roundabout way they were voting to return to their youth without realising it. Dunno.

Here's a positive. My children are going to Paris for a weekend and get to go to all museums for free.
oh hang on
that's eU students only. They'll have to budget another 100 quid each
hurrah!

We were known as "The Sick Man of Europe" for much of the 1960s and 1970s because the countries in the Common Market were doing so much better than us.

And Brexit has put us back in that position.

amp.theguardian.com/business/2022/nov/27/brexit-has-made-britain-the-sick-man-of-europe-again

www.economist.com/the-world-ahead/2022/11/18/britain-is-the-sick-man-of-europe-once-again

Unfortunately yes, but most people have realised it was a mistake.

We just need another referendum and we can get our country back on track.

Great post.

I think people have a very strong tendency to dig their heels in and entrench themselves further into a mindset rather than admit that they were misled. They would be perfectly justified in getting angry at the way this has all transpired, however being angry takes energy, and people can't be bothered.

Pop Quiz - if the tories are so tough on immigration, brexit allowed us to "take back control of our borders", and brexiteers were genuinely concerned with getting 'rampant immigration under control' why has net migration been higher every year between 2011-2022 than it was between 1997-2010?

Extra credit - why do people who are 'concerned' about immigration repeatedly fall for the same lies?

Yep stagflation, Sterling crisis, IMF bailout…

I think in 40-50 years we'll be better off than if we had remained, it was always going to be a long term thing and not something that can really be measured because "better off" is such a subjective thing. Financially better off? No way, not for decades. But the sense of liberation in not being shackled by EU rules, both current and future, that's an unquantifiable but valuable thing to some.

After it was a done thing and we were leaving this is what I started to hear a lot of.

I'll likely be dead by then or in my 90s - my kids who had many opportunities denied them because of this- way to young to have voted for it - will be nearing end of their working lives and people who in our family who voted leave are all now in their 70s so won't see shit.

We're supposed to wait round 5O years and if nothing materialised oh well it was all ancient history .

I'm with you too, OP. I can't see any benefits either - just a monumental act of idiotic self-harm. I'm also amazed at the number of Leave voters who appear not to have realised that the loss of Freedom of Movement would work both ways.

To those who voted Leave: what exactly did you think was going to happen?

It can't possibly ever be a good thing to put up trade barriers that cost time and money with the countries your businesses all have longstanding relationships with, and then to do trade deals with countries much further away that always favour the other party.

Brexit only gets worse from here.

And are shitly made I have one a cardboard cover that seemingly won't last long. But hey hoe blue covers and all that.

The BNP (remember them) were very active on the Vote Leave side and in this video from the time they seem to sum up a lot of the leave voter feelings. Very sad that left behind voters saw this as a lightening rod to make their feelings felt to the political elites but ended up making all our lives worse.

Leave was a perfectly respectable political position to take ... but .... one only had to look at the calibre of those leading and supporting the Leave campaign to know leaving the EU would be a badly handled shitshow, and thus is turned out to be just that.

I got a cute little train stamp on my passport when we went to France last year - a sort of benefit ( the hour we spent being kettled at Gare du Nord passport control in 35 degree heat - not so much).

I voted leave mainly because I was shocked at how the EU dealt with Greece. When left-wing Syriza and Tsipras rose to power in 2015 they were trying to make things better for the people of Greece but the debt crisis was made worse by the EU and their insistence on an austerity programme in Greece which naturally made things worse.

Yanou Varofakis, former finance minister for Syriza talks eloquently about Brexit and the forces that led to it and the aftershocks. If you are interested in an alternative point of view or a deeper look into the economics, I recommend a listen.

Especially interesting is the devolved governments in Wales and Scotland and how England outside of London is disenfranchised because of a lack of representation.