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Dalai llama ask a child to suck his tongue

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Mooshamoo · 10/04/2023 12:49

Has anyone seen the new video of the Dalai Llama asking a child to suck his tongue. Yes. It sounds bizarre. But it is in the news right now. The video is out there. And the dalai llama is apologising on social media now

Im devastated! I went to see the Dalai Llama in India. He gave a speech on accepting and loving everyone, and that it didn't matter what religion we are. I always told people that it was one of the highlights of my life.

I went through life thinking he was a good person, that he was one of the good ones. To see this today, makes me think oh no is he yet another abuser.

Some people have remarked about this video that sticking your tongue out at someone is a greeting in Tibet.

However - the Dalai Llama kisses the child on the lips in the video, and asks the child to suck his tongue. It does not look right at all.

He has apologised on twitter now.

What do you all think?

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Flowerly · 10/04/2023 14:29

Whydothat · 10/04/2023 14:23

@l3ThirtySeven
Do abused kids need less therapy if their abuser has dementia?
If he does it's sad BUT if it is protecting children should have been the priority of everyone who is close to him.

100% agree.

SNAFUED · 10/04/2023 14:30

Flowerly · 10/04/2023 14:28

What that video shows is the abuse of a minor, very clearly. Whether you believe that the man has dementia or not, what that video shows is an abusive act.

How interesting that, before they can condemn it, certain posters want more evidence, more footage, posit theories that China have mocked this up, post links to dementia websites - all rather than come out and condemn this for the abuse that it is. How/why it happened is almost irrelevant but these people are clearly struggling to see what is in front of their eyes.

And we wonder that raped women struggle to be believed, that the victims of grooming gangs are gaslit and disbelieved, that Savile's victims were slated for compromising the name of a good man who did so much for charity. This was captured on film and it's the same appalling script time after time. Grim as fuck.

All of this.

ananass · 10/04/2023 14:31

@L3ThirtySeven would rush to report your post because of the home truths in it, but you were right!

ananass · 10/04/2023 14:32

Sorry, @FuchsAndMöhr , that should be - I knew people like @L3ThirtySeven would rush to report your post because of the home truths in it, but you were right!

TheLadyofShalott1 · 10/04/2023 14:33

None of us actually KNOW whether the Dali Lama is a paedophile, or has a dementia. I truly hope that it is the latter.

What we should all agree about, is that he must NEVER be in a public situation like that again.

I do hope that having withdrawn him from the public eye, he is investigated, and if not found to have dementia, he will face criminal proceedings* *just like everyone else who behaves in such a manner, should.

Lordofthebutterfloofs · 10/04/2023 14:34

Why on earth would you want anyone to suck your tongue?

C1N1C · 10/04/2023 14:36

He said it was a joke as he likes to make jokes... I'm obviously 100% against it, joke or no joke, still absolutely wrong.

BUT, the kissing thing... I'm on the fence about. I went to Morocco a few weeks back, and a random guy went up to a random kid on the street who was with his mum and kissed him on the lips... In our culture this would see the man locked up, but she was fine with it. Could this bit simply be a cultural difference?

commonground · 10/04/2023 14:37

Urgh, I have seen the video on Twitter (posted by someone who said it was just 'playfulness').

It's revolting, actually.

At first there's laughter when they are goofing about with the kiss on the cheek and his advisors are watching. But it becomes deathly silent and eyes averted when things change to what I can only describe as 'lingering'. I mean, the 'suck my tongue' is appalling on its own, but the cognitive shift in the DL's demeanour is plain to see and it becomes voyeuristic and very uncomfortable.

I wish I hadn't seen it, tbh so won't link. Apologies if my description triggers, but really no wider context of this clip can excuse it.

Willyoujustbequiet · 10/04/2023 14:37

Given his age I agree it could possibly be dementia. Inappropriate sexual behaviour is a common symptom and Ive seen it myself many times as a former nurse.

It doesn't make it right though. He should step down immediately.

Goodread1 · 10/04/2023 14:40

@L3ThirtySeven

He wasn't essential kidnapped, as a child,

With his family permission he went away to live in Monks monastery, he revealed himself as a child to be re incarnation or channelling the deceased former Dalmi Lama
It's a tradition in that culture that every so often they go into a villages ect to see who possess the spirit of deceased Dalma in a precocious manner,
Like when they say a child has been here before,
Or
This child is an old soul ect type of thing

ananass · 10/04/2023 14:41

C1N1C · 10/04/2023 14:36

He said it was a joke as he likes to make jokes... I'm obviously 100% against it, joke or no joke, still absolutely wrong.

BUT, the kissing thing... I'm on the fence about. I went to Morocco a few weeks back, and a random guy went up to a random kid on the street who was with his mum and kissed him on the lips... In our culture this would see the man locked up, but she was fine with it. Could this bit simply be a cultural difference?

It’s not a joke though. He’s deadly serious.

As commonground says: But it becomes deathly silent and eyes averted when things change to what I can only describe as 'lingering'. I mean, the 'suck my tongue' is appalling on its own, but the cognitive shift in the DL's demeanour is plain to see and it becomes voyeuristic and very uncomfortable.

Stop minimising sexual abuse.

Sudeko · 10/04/2023 14:46

I have a lot of Buddhist family and friends and this has totally triggered me. There have always been rumours circulating about him being unsaintly but this is something much more serious altogether and doesn't have an alternative explanation for me. I don't know what steps will be taken but I think it would have gone viral if the Pope did it and the conspiracy therorists would gleefully celebrate. However, a lot of important people in the world hang onto the DL's every word and their lack of reaction has been disappointing.

40weeksmummy · 10/04/2023 14:46

What context you are looking for?

This is the reason I don't believe in ANY bloody religion, god or any religion leader.

This idiot should go to prison.

Disgusting.

AllIsBest · 10/04/2023 14:46

Who the hell are the 7% voting YABU? 😬

Of course YANBU. Who cares if he has dementia or not? He acted in a nasty and abusive way to a young child. He needs to be removed from his post. Abuse is abuse, no matter what the perpetrator's intention is. If the DL is not fit for 'office' it's time for him to retreat to a nice shady tree and drink tee for the rest of his days, without any minors in the vicinity. Bleurg. .

Sudeko · 10/04/2023 14:48

Sadly, as with the Catholic church, any religious system involving people swearing to celibacy can attract these sickos because it is very easy for them to shun sexual advances from other adults.

Gigantasaurus · 10/04/2023 14:49

He abused a child in public and before the global media. He not only abused the child he took away their ability to have ownership over their own life by handing the incident over for public consumption.

The whole thing is disgusting. It needs no excuses or explanation it just needs support for the child and the man to be stripped of his position.

Sudeko · 10/04/2023 14:51

If he has lost so much self-awareness that he did this in public then imagine how much of it he would have done in private and how many children may have been victims with parents completely in awe of the perpetrator who wouldn't believe them. I would say that this is the tip of a giant iceberg.

SpidersAreShitheads · 10/04/2023 14:51

C1N1C · 10/04/2023 14:36

He said it was a joke as he likes to make jokes... I'm obviously 100% against it, joke or no joke, still absolutely wrong.

BUT, the kissing thing... I'm on the fence about. I went to Morocco a few weeks back, and a random guy went up to a random kid on the street who was with his mum and kissed him on the lips... In our culture this would see the man locked up, but she was fine with it. Could this bit simply be a cultural difference?

I think it feels really shocking to us as there’s so much which isn’t a cultural norm here.

Kissing on the lips is normal in some cultures, including kissing children. Sticking out your tongue is also a cultural norm in countries like Tibet.

I think it’s a really ill-judged, silly joke that seems much worse to us because of cultural differences.

The Dalai Lana was up on a platform and well aware he’s being filmed. If he’s a sexual predator he’s done a fucking fantastic job of keeping any hint of it hidden for 87 years - but now suddenly he can’t contain an urge to ask a child to suck his tongue?! It doesn’t make sense.

The child is reluctant - his mum asked the Dalai Lama if the child could go on stage to greet him. I think it’s like when you were told to kiss an aged relative you didn’t really know as a child.

To be clear, I’m not some kind of paedo apologist. But you can tell from the reaction in the room that it’s just a joke. The Dalai Lama isn’t about to start abusing children on camera (unless the dementia theory is correct but I don’t believe so). He’s always been known for having a somewhat outrageous sense of humour for a spiritual leader and I think this was just a spectacularly bad example of it.

He’s not immune to a healthy dose of misogyny though - some of his previous comments have been disappointing.

AxolotlOnions · 10/04/2023 14:53

Mooshamoo · 10/04/2023 13:11

He kisses the child on the lips for a long time, before he asks the child to suck his tongue.

You can see that the child does not want to kiss the Dalai llama on the lips, but the Dalai llama pushes him into it.

Should an old religious man be allowed to kiss a child on the lips?

That in itself is extremely wrong.

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He doesn't kiss him for a long time. As soon as their lips touch, or almost touch, he pulls away. He does tell him to suck his tongue, then sticks out his tongue and holds his head to the child's head, the tongue goes nowhere near the child's mouth. It's weird, but I think misguided rather than perverted.

Dalai Lama inappropriately tongue-kisses boy

Dalai Lama kissed an Indian boy at a Dharma event and even tried to tongue kiss the boy who then resisted. At the time, Dalai Lama was salivating. Such a dis...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBBtnrHipSc

KnitGoodWomanKnit · 10/04/2023 14:55

Funny you how some people are wearing masks but he kisses a little boy on the lips. I'd be doing some tests if I were the parents.

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Mooshamoo · 10/04/2023 14:56

AxolotlOnions · 10/04/2023 14:53

He doesn't kiss him for a long time. As soon as their lips touch, or almost touch, he pulls away. He does tell him to suck his tongue, then sticks out his tongue and holds his head to the child's head, the tongue goes nowhere near the child's mouth. It's weird, but I think misguided rather than perverted.

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Yeah but you can see clearly that the child does not want to kiss the Dalai llama on the lips.

The Dalai llama grabs the child's chin and pulls him to him to make the child kiss him on the lips.

Whatever, dementia, missguidness, whatever. You can clearly see the child is uncomfortable and does not want to do it.

He should not remain in his position as Dalai llama.

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Sudeko · 10/04/2023 15:07

There are a lot of people out there who would literally sell their kids to prove the DL is right. It's like they will lose their whole identity if they try to detach from him and his beliefs. I find the brainwashing so exasperating. This is going to separate the decent people from the fools in my own circle as far as I am concerned. Like I said, it would not happen in public if it hadn't already been happening a lot (and I mean A LOT) in private.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 10/04/2023 15:07

You’ve just watched a video of him asking a boy to suck his tongue after getting him to kiss his lips, and yet you”re still defending him.

Cannot believe some people are defending him. There's no reports he has dementia so that is irrelevant. People making excuses for it are part of the problem.

AllIsBest · 10/04/2023 15:08

I think it feels really shocking to us as there’s so much which isn’t a cultural norm here.

The boy is the same culture as the holy DL and was clearly uncomfortable. The whole exchange was forceful and none of the sidekick monks sitting around them intervened to help the boy, nor did anyone in the audience. Poor poor boy.

Fuck the Dalai Lama and any system that allows any individual no matter their sex or age to get away with child abuse. It is the popular ones, the 'pillar of the community' types who work or volunteer with children you should be wary of. The more popular, the more untouchable. So many yes sayers, no checks and balances everyone sucking up to the abuser. This is also why people cannot believe that the abuser is in fact abusive. It's all 'they don't mean it'.