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Dalai llama ask a child to suck his tongue

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Mooshamoo · 10/04/2023 12:49

Has anyone seen the new video of the Dalai Llama asking a child to suck his tongue. Yes. It sounds bizarre. But it is in the news right now. The video is out there. And the dalai llama is apologising on social media now

Im devastated! I went to see the Dalai Llama in India. He gave a speech on accepting and loving everyone, and that it didn't matter what religion we are. I always told people that it was one of the highlights of my life.

I went through life thinking he was a good person, that he was one of the good ones. To see this today, makes me think oh no is he yet another abuser.

Some people have remarked about this video that sticking your tongue out at someone is a greeting in Tibet.

However - the Dalai Llama kisses the child on the lips in the video, and asks the child to suck his tongue. It does not look right at all.

He has apologised on twitter now.

What do you all think?

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L3ThirtySeven · 12/04/2023 08:56

MyopicBunny · 12/04/2023 08:49

Dalai Lama has consistently led a moral life free of any hint of such perversion for over 87yrs.

And you know this, how?

You know this because it's what you've been told. But you have no idea of his whereabouts in reality.

You know what you are correct, I am trusting in the thousands of independent journalists, reporters, and people who have lived with, met and worked with the Dalai Lama for over 75yrs.

The only reason to believe otherwise would be to think all these people are in some global 75yr long conspiracy to lie about the Dalai Lama. And that they are so good at it, that not one hint of anything untoward has leaked out ever.

IShouldGoToSleep · 12/04/2023 08:57

I was really shocked by this. I too thought he was one of the good guys.

What really saddens me is the thought that 'if this is what he was willing to do in public, in front of the cameras, then ....'

I wonder what happens behind closed doors. Religion and power used as smoke to hide
behind. Idols seem to get away with a lot -Saville, Michael Jackson, Christian leaders and now the Dali Lama.

Are there no good men in powerful positions? 😭

onirgellep · 12/04/2023 08:58

It's really perplexing to me this unbending rigid viewpoint that there cannot possibly be a health problem playing a part

On Twitter there are more recent photos than the ones upthread in which he looks quite frail

Medication and infections can cause havoc in extreme old age even in people without dementia

L3ThirtySeven · 12/04/2023 08:58

MyopicBunny · 12/04/2023 08:54

I'm not the one who asked a child to suck my tongue, but i'm the one with perversions?? Hmm

There's mental gymnastics for you 😂

No one said that you have perversions.

awaynboilyurheid · 12/04/2023 08:59

DJHearth · 11/04/2023 23:52

I hate to be that guy, but Buddhists don't believe in a god, so atheism has nothing to do with Buddhists.

An elderly man tries to suck a child’s tongue in full view of people enabling his abhorrent behaviour and this is the part you focus on, funnily enough I hate you being “ that guy” too.

IShouldGoToSleep · 12/04/2023 08:59

L3ThirtySeven · 12/04/2023 08:56

You know what you are correct, I am trusting in the thousands of independent journalists, reporters, and people who have lived with, met and worked with the Dalai Lama for over 75yrs.

The only reason to believe otherwise would be to think all these people are in some global 75yr long conspiracy to lie about the Dalai Lama. And that they are so good at it, that not one hint of anything untoward has leaked out ever.

People also raved about Saville. How wonderful his work was with charity etc... We only got fed one narrative about him from the media. He met and mingled with religious leaders, royalty, politicians. He raised millions for charity.

It is often those who appear the cleanest (police officers, clergy men, teachers, charity workers), who are seen as upstanding members of the community, who hide the darkest secrets.

L3ThirtySeven · 12/04/2023 09:02

onirgellep · 12/04/2023 08:58

It's really perplexing to me this unbending rigid viewpoint that there cannot possibly be a health problem playing a part

On Twitter there are more recent photos than the ones upthread in which he looks quite frail

Medication and infections can cause havoc in extreme old age even in people without dementia

Exactly. He needs two carers to even help him walk.

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L3ThirtySeven · 12/04/2023 09:04

He can’t even walk without aid.

Dalai llama ask a child to suck his tongue
GingerbreadBaking · 12/04/2023 09:05

MyopicBunny · 12/04/2023 08:20

Some people have definitely excused it. Not everyone 'some'.

And even those not doing so would never have suggested dementia could be the reason for this if any other 87 year old man did this.

I don't know, people may be scared to report incase they were called racist or a homophobe.

GingerbreadBaking · 12/04/2023 09:07

All that USA money reported to be gave to him over the years and he has to use close human males as disability aids rather than a wheelchair or walking stick like the Pope?

L3ThirtySeven · 12/04/2023 09:13

IShouldGoToSleep · 12/04/2023 08:59

People also raved about Saville. How wonderful his work was with charity etc... We only got fed one narrative about him from the media. He met and mingled with religious leaders, royalty, politicians. He raised millions for charity.

It is often those who appear the cleanest (police officers, clergy men, teachers, charity workers), who are seen as upstanding members of the community, who hide the darkest secrets.

Yes, but allegations against Jimmy Savile for sexual misconduct started to trickle out in 1958, when he was 32yrs old. The allegations of child sexual abuse started in 1963, when he was 37yrs old. By 1978, it was admitted as an open secret by people who knew him in BBC interviews.

So Jimmy Savile did not appear clean at all, not since he was 32 at any rate and definitely not for the last 52yrs of his life,

In the case of the Dalai Lama, there have been zero allegations his entire 87yrs of life.

onirgellep · 12/04/2023 09:19

L3ThirtySeven · 12/04/2023 09:13

Yes, but allegations against Jimmy Savile for sexual misconduct started to trickle out in 1958, when he was 32yrs old. The allegations of child sexual abuse started in 1963, when he was 37yrs old. By 1978, it was admitted as an open secret by people who knew him in BBC interviews.

So Jimmy Savile did not appear clean at all, not since he was 32 at any rate and definitely not for the last 52yrs of his life,

In the case of the Dalai Lama, there have been zero allegations his entire 87yrs of life.

There are even earlier reports from Leeds and Manchester when he was on the disco circuit there in his 20's

I knew of Saviles paedophilia long before he was exposed

Gigantasaurus · 12/04/2023 09:20

onirgellep · 12/04/2023 08:58

It's really perplexing to me this unbending rigid viewpoint that there cannot possibly be a health problem playing a part

On Twitter there are more recent photos than the ones upthread in which he looks quite frail

Medication and infections can cause havoc in extreme old age even in people without dementia

It's not the refusal to accept it plays a part it's way some posters are presenting it as a way to excuse and minimise what has happened. So he has dementia? Then what? Does that erase what has happened because "oh bless the doddery old man in funny robes is poorly and didn't mean it"

As has been said repeatedly on here. If an 87 year old man in the pub did this to your child, and all the locals filmed it and put it on social media how would you react?

Dementia may be the root cause but it in no way excuses the behaviour. It's the use of it as an excuse that is upsetting people

Gigantasaurus · 12/04/2023 09:21

onirgellep · 12/04/2023 09:19

There are even earlier reports from Leeds and Manchester when he was on the disco circuit there in his 20's

I knew of Saviles paedophilia long before he was exposed

Plenty did. I was warned about Rolf Harris long before he was caught so that must have been something of an open secret in the industry.

UnsureSchool32 · 12/04/2023 09:21

L3ThirtySeven · 12/04/2023 09:13

Yes, but allegations against Jimmy Savile for sexual misconduct started to trickle out in 1958, when he was 32yrs old. The allegations of child sexual abuse started in 1963, when he was 37yrs old. By 1978, it was admitted as an open secret by people who knew him in BBC interviews.

So Jimmy Savile did not appear clean at all, not since he was 32 at any rate and definitely not for the last 52yrs of his life,

In the case of the Dalai Lama, there have been zero allegations his entire 87yrs of life.

These people are protected, as was Jimmy Saville. I’m one who doesn’t want to believe it. But it’s staring me in the face. I was subjected to to two sexual attacks as a child one aged 6 and then another when I was 14. Both by older men. Both men living normal lives with their families.

Although I didn’t suffer from sustained abuse those two incidents play on my mind still. This little boy will now carry this trauma for life. What the DL did is not right. It’s not excusable. It’s very damaging.

GingerbreadBaking · 12/04/2023 09:24

UnsureSchool32 · 12/04/2023 09:21

These people are protected, as was Jimmy Saville. I’m one who doesn’t want to believe it. But it’s staring me in the face. I was subjected to to two sexual attacks as a child one aged 6 and then another when I was 14. Both by older men. Both men living normal lives with their families.

Although I didn’t suffer from sustained abuse those two incidents play on my mind still. This little boy will now carry this trauma for life. What the DL did is not right. It’s not excusable. It’s very damaging.

Some posters don't want you to focus on the trauma of a boy, they want you to focus on their trauma at having a parent with dementia instead.

Mangogirl12 · 12/04/2023 09:24

Gigantasaurus · 12/04/2023 09:20

It's not the refusal to accept it plays a part it's way some posters are presenting it as a way to excuse and minimise what has happened. So he has dementia? Then what? Does that erase what has happened because "oh bless the doddery old man in funny robes is poorly and didn't mean it"

As has been said repeatedly on here. If an 87 year old man in the pub did this to your child, and all the locals filmed it and put it on social media how would you react?

Dementia may be the root cause but it in no way excuses the behaviour. It's the use of it as an excuse that is upsetting people

NO ONE has used it as an excuse. People raised dementia because some have assumed he is scum, a pedophile etc, when it MAY just be that he has dementia and would otherwise be horrified at his actions.

As has been said repeatedly on here. If an 87 year old man in the pub did this to your child, and all the locals filmed it and put it on social media how would you react?

And as has been repeatedly said, we'd assume he had dementia!

L3ThirtySeven · 12/04/2023 09:32

GingerbreadBaking · 12/04/2023 09:24

Some posters don't want you to focus on the trauma of a boy, they want you to focus on their trauma at having a parent with dementia instead.

Would it not be easier on the boy if it was caused by dementia, and so was unintentional and due to a disease that slowly rots the brain?

Generally speaking, an unintentional action that accidentally causes you harm is less traumatic than an intentional action that causes you harm on purpose.

onirgellep · 12/04/2023 09:32

Gigantasaurus · 12/04/2023 09:20

It's not the refusal to accept it plays a part it's way some posters are presenting it as a way to excuse and minimise what has happened. So he has dementia? Then what? Does that erase what has happened because "oh bless the doddery old man in funny robes is poorly and didn't mean it"

As has been said repeatedly on here. If an 87 year old man in the pub did this to your child, and all the locals filmed it and put it on social media how would you react?

Dementia may be the root cause but it in no way excuses the behaviour. It's the use of it as an excuse that is upsetting people

Once again I'll say it's not about 'excusing' the behaviour it's about explaining/understanding/ looking for a reason - different concepts

If I witnessed this in my local pub I'd tell the landlord/licensee to deal with it

ChunkaMunkaBoomBoom · 12/04/2023 09:33

'Thank you to the posters who have persevered in trying to give the viewpoint that there is quite possibly dementia involved, you have more patience than me. I've watched the longer clip and he seems completely oblivious that he has just done something massively inappropriate and abusive.'

So he was able to hide the fact that he's an abuser up to know, but this diagnosed-by-fans disease means he no longer can?

I'd worry that someone doing something so public has got away with alot more in private. Can you imagine how hard it would be as a child to report inappropriate behavior from such a man?
Who would believe you? Even if they did, would anything happen?

Something in the Boston priest scandal reported by Spotlight always gives me pause - one of the men who'd been abused and talked of the power the priests had over him, his family. school and community said 'How can you say no to god?'

L3ThirtySeven · 12/04/2023 09:33

Gigantasaurus · 12/04/2023 09:20

It's not the refusal to accept it plays a part it's way some posters are presenting it as a way to excuse and minimise what has happened. So he has dementia? Then what? Does that erase what has happened because "oh bless the doddery old man in funny robes is poorly and didn't mean it"

As has been said repeatedly on here. If an 87 year old man in the pub did this to your child, and all the locals filmed it and put it on social media how would you react?

Dementia may be the root cause but it in no way excuses the behaviour. It's the use of it as an excuse that is upsetting people

No one is using dementia as a way to excuse what happened. You & others are accusing of us that and it is simply not true.

ChunkaMunkaBoomBoom · 12/04/2023 09:34

'As has been said repeatedly on here. If an 87 year old man in the pub did this to your child, and all the locals filmed it and put it on social media how would you react?'

I would ask for the video token taken down immediately as the child hasn't given consent - and call the police of someone hadn't already.

L3ThirtySeven · 12/04/2023 09:36

@ChunkaMunkaBoomBoom
”So he was able to hide the fact that he's an abuser up to know, but this diagnosed-by-fans disease means he no longer can?”

No, that’s not how dementia affects a person. It doesn’t lower inhibitions. It doesn’t reveal what they were hiding. It is brain damage that literally changes their entire personality. It changes who they are and have been their entire lives in ways that horrify them in their lucid moments.

AllIsBest · 12/04/2023 09:47

onirgellep · 12/04/2023 08:58

It's really perplexing to me this unbending rigid viewpoint that there cannot possibly be a health problem playing a part

On Twitter there are more recent photos than the ones upthread in which he looks quite frail

Medication and infections can cause havoc in extreme old age even in people without dementia

It's disappointing that those proclaiming this old chap must have dementia, have such little regard for safeguarding 😞.

The Dalai Lama may or may not have dementia.

The Dalai Lama may or may not have nefarious tendencies.

The Dalai Lama has sexually abused a boy for everyone to see.

The Dalai Lama's helpers watched on and clapped while this abuse was taking place.

What are the consequences for a Dalai Lama with global fame who abuses his position of power and trust if he has dementia?

What are the consequences for a Dali Lama with global fame who abuses his position of power and trust for nefarious reasons?

What are the consequences for his helpers who have enabled this abuse?

Dementia or not, how will children be protected from the Dalai Lama and his helpers in the future?

An impartial, thorough investigation should help establish what has happened and why. The focus should be on safeguarding children, not managing the DL's reputation.

The world will never unseen that footage in any case. It's a big deal and the repercussions will be felt for a long time.