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Dalai llama ask a child to suck his tongue

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Mooshamoo · 10/04/2023 12:49

Has anyone seen the new video of the Dalai Llama asking a child to suck his tongue. Yes. It sounds bizarre. But it is in the news right now. The video is out there. And the dalai llama is apologising on social media now

Im devastated! I went to see the Dalai Llama in India. He gave a speech on accepting and loving everyone, and that it didn't matter what religion we are. I always told people that it was one of the highlights of my life.

I went through life thinking he was a good person, that he was one of the good ones. To see this today, makes me think oh no is he yet another abuser.

Some people have remarked about this video that sticking your tongue out at someone is a greeting in Tibet.

However - the Dalai Llama kisses the child on the lips in the video, and asks the child to suck his tongue. It does not look right at all.

He has apologised on twitter now.

What do you all think?

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Sudeko · 12/04/2023 09:47

Those photos demonstrating that he is frail don't excuse anything. You don't have to be physically fit to get somebody to suck your whatever. Let's be honest, the kiss was the prelude to the tongue sucking and the tongue sucking chapter was the chapter before the SMD one. Even a person with a vanilla sex life knows that. Where you are doing it to a child, it doesn't quietly suggest grooming, it screams it

GingerbreadBaking · 12/04/2023 09:49

ChunkaMunkaBoomBoom · 12/04/2023 09:33

'Thank you to the posters who have persevered in trying to give the viewpoint that there is quite possibly dementia involved, you have more patience than me. I've watched the longer clip and he seems completely oblivious that he has just done something massively inappropriate and abusive.'

So he was able to hide the fact that he's an abuser up to know, but this diagnosed-by-fans disease means he no longer can?

I'd worry that someone doing something so public has got away with alot more in private. Can you imagine how hard it would be as a child to report inappropriate behavior from such a man?
Who would believe you? Even if they did, would anything happen?

Something in the Boston priest scandal reported by Spotlight always gives me pause - one of the men who'd been abused and talked of the power the priests had over him, his family. school and community said 'How can you say no to god?'

Those men were not men of God, they were men that liked to hurt other males, especially Alter boys. They joinsd to financially, sexually and spiritually abuse a group of people, there were people saying many years ago that they planted people with a politician agenda in the church h and the church was one of the fisrt along with scouts long before the NHS or BBC would admit there was an issue. This is why every safeguarding serious case review shows that people Will protect their institutions, yet they are the same they are dishonest about it.

There were a tiny minority who hurt sexually hurt females, most within the Catholic Church wasn't male on male sexual abuse. Females were hurt in other ways, that was mostly female on female by females like Nicola Sturgeon who were likely personality disordered as those are the people who get into positions of power in the secular world and harm others.

Mangogirl12 · 12/04/2023 09:51

AllIsBest · 12/04/2023 09:47

It's disappointing that those proclaiming this old chap must have dementia, have such little regard for safeguarding 😞.

The Dalai Lama may or may not have dementia.

The Dalai Lama may or may not have nefarious tendencies.

The Dalai Lama has sexually abused a boy for everyone to see.

The Dalai Lama's helpers watched on and clapped while this abuse was taking place.

What are the consequences for a Dalai Lama with global fame who abuses his position of power and trust if he has dementia?

What are the consequences for a Dali Lama with global fame who abuses his position of power and trust for nefarious reasons?

What are the consequences for his helpers who have enabled this abuse?

Dementia or not, how will children be protected from the Dalai Lama and his helpers in the future?

An impartial, thorough investigation should help establish what has happened and why. The focus should be on safeguarding children, not managing the DL's reputation.

The world will never unseen that footage in any case. It's a big deal and the repercussions will be felt for a long time.

It's disappointing that those proclaiming this old chap must have dementia, have such little regard for safeguarding

Right, because we only speak to the issue of what caused the abuse, that automatically equates to us having 'such little regard for safeguarding'. ConfusedHmm Your leap is absolutely ridiculous!

Sudeko · 12/04/2023 09:52

Besides, he has lived his life. By the standards of his culture, it has been a really privileged life with masses of respect and idolization. It is no loss to anybody if he was put under house arrest until death.
He has screwed up someone else's life and they are only at the very beginning of it. Somebody with no fame or connections who doesn't have legions of protectors and a biased media to protect his interests.

Sudeko · 12/04/2023 09:56

The reactions of his yes-men were the most disturbing aspect of it.
Did they look shocked/distressed like it had never happened before? No
Did they make any attempts to stop him from carrying on? No
Did they look like they had seen it all before? Yes
Did they look behave like it was a privilege for the little boy to be harassed by a nonce? Yes, because it was not just any nonce, it was the nonce with the carte blanche.

GingerbreadBaking · 12/04/2023 09:58

AllIsBest · 12/04/2023 09:47

It's disappointing that those proclaiming this old chap must have dementia, have such little regard for safeguarding 😞.

The Dalai Lama may or may not have dementia.

The Dalai Lama may or may not have nefarious tendencies.

The Dalai Lama has sexually abused a boy for everyone to see.

The Dalai Lama's helpers watched on and clapped while this abuse was taking place.

What are the consequences for a Dalai Lama with global fame who abuses his position of power and trust if he has dementia?

What are the consequences for a Dali Lama with global fame who abuses his position of power and trust for nefarious reasons?

What are the consequences for his helpers who have enabled this abuse?

Dementia or not, how will children be protected from the Dalai Lama and his helpers in the future?

An impartial, thorough investigation should help establish what has happened and why. The focus should be on safeguarding children, not managing the DL's reputation.

The world will never unseen that footage in any case. It's a big deal and the repercussions will be felt for a long time.

It's been brushed under the carpet like the males who shake their anus at small children and bring in books focused on the anus into schools, one can shout abuse at the Catholicsand phone also at Catholics.

There will be no public shaming of enabling teachers somehow they can hold the idea that they can report parents for allowing that in the home and have children removed in individual homes, yet the teachers children the classroom or in their home don't deserve the same safeguarding.

The sacred caste of teachers housing and income is more important than the housing situation and income of a lone mother, it's dohble standards when it comes to safeguarding expectations and people aren't allowed to say and link up who exactly is doing the abusing in each institution and religion.

L3ThirtySeven · 12/04/2023 09:58

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GingerbreadBaking · 12/04/2023 09:59

Phobe not phone

L3ThirtySeven · 12/04/2023 09:59

Sudeko · 12/04/2023 09:52

Besides, he has lived his life. By the standards of his culture, it has been a really privileged life with masses of respect and idolization. It is no loss to anybody if he was put under house arrest until death.
He has screwed up someone else's life and they are only at the very beginning of it. Somebody with no fame or connections who doesn't have legions of protectors and a biased media to protect his interests.

The boys entire life hasn’t been “screwed up” dear me.

GingerbreadBaking · 12/04/2023 10:02

People know how to safeguard until they come across a sacred caste or name calling, then excuses are made.

ananass · 12/04/2023 10:03

L3ThirtySeven · 12/04/2023 08:38

Several pages ago on this thread someone asked me the same question in terms of would I call the police if some old man at a bus stop asked my own child to ‘suck his tongue’. I responded, yes I would call the police but that they should know that the police will consider dementia and contact social care. That the police are not going to haul an 87yr old away in handcuffs. And why? because dementia is the most common cause of such bizarre behaviour in the elderly.

And yet not once have you agreed on this thread that the police should be called to investigate what the DL did to that boy.

So the police for your own child but not for this child. Hypocrisy.

L3ThirtySeven · 12/04/2023 10:03

Sudeko · 12/04/2023 09:56

The reactions of his yes-men were the most disturbing aspect of it.
Did they look shocked/distressed like it had never happened before? No
Did they make any attempts to stop him from carrying on? No
Did they look like they had seen it all before? Yes
Did they look behave like it was a privilege for the little boy to be harassed by a nonce? Yes, because it was not just any nonce, it was the nonce with the carte blanche.

I thought most looked awkward and concerned. Perhaps you’re seeing what you want to see. Not sure how you can stop someone before they do something so bizarre and surprising before they do it or how you are able to judge if someone had seen something before from a video clip…would that be back to your claim that you can sense “pervert vibes” across thousands of miles though electronic screens?

AllIsBest · 12/04/2023 10:03

@Mangogirl12

Whatever the Dalai Lama's intentions were, he coerced a young boy into intimate physical contact and the DL's helpers clapped and laughed along.

The evidence is there for all to see.

If you support the safeguarding of children, do you agree that there should be an impartial investigation into the incident? In your view, what needs to happen to protect children from the Dalai Lama's inappropriate and damaging behaviour in the future? Whether he has dementia or not?

L3ThirtySeven · 12/04/2023 10:05

ananass · 12/04/2023 10:03

And yet not once have you agreed on this thread that the police should be called to investigate what the DL did to that boy.

So the police for your own child but not for this child. Hypocrisy.

No one asked me that so I have neither agreed nor disagreed. I was only asked would I call the police if I saw it happen IRL at a bus stop, and I said yes I would.

pickledandpuzzled · 12/04/2023 10:06

It's a waste of breath encouraging people to engage with what is actually being said, and use their brain.
They are choosing to throw mud instead.
No matter how many times posters repeat it was unacceptable, needs investigating and contact with children needs to be engineered out, we are still apparently 'excusing child abuse in plain sight'.

So I'll leave you to fashioning your tin foil hats and shouting witch, and carry on doing actual safeguarding of children and adults, on a day to day basis.

Sudeko · 12/04/2023 10:07

L3ThirtySeven · 12/04/2023 10:03

I thought most looked awkward and concerned. Perhaps you’re seeing what you want to see. Not sure how you can stop someone before they do something so bizarre and surprising before they do it or how you are able to judge if someone had seen something before from a video clip…would that be back to your claim that you can sense “pervert vibes” across thousands of miles though electronic screens?

If you were here to carry out damage limitation on behalf of the DL then what else would you say?
If it was picked up on the audio, it would have been quite loud. Or were they randomly cheering and clapping? Does the DL encourage robotic episodes of mirth?

ananass · 12/04/2023 10:07

L3ThirtySeven · 12/04/2023 08:50

“Led to believe”! It’s his physical address and he’s not had visitors for fifteen years at least! It’s all well documented. But you’d rather ignore the evidence in favour of your own tawdry and perverted imaginings.

You are unutterably naive if you think a man of his power could not possibly have access to children.

Several Buddhist monks have reported sexual abuse as children in Tibet and elsewhere.

L3ThirtySeven · 12/04/2023 10:07

pickledandpuzzled · 12/04/2023 10:06

It's a waste of breath encouraging people to engage with what is actually being said, and use their brain.
They are choosing to throw mud instead.
No matter how many times posters repeat it was unacceptable, needs investigating and contact with children needs to be engineered out, we are still apparently 'excusing child abuse in plain sight'.

So I'll leave you to fashioning your tin foil hats and shouting witch, and carry on doing actual safeguarding of children and adults, on a day to day basis.

I’m 100% with you on that.

ananass · 12/04/2023 10:09

L3ThirtySeven · 12/04/2023 10:05

No one asked me that so I have neither agreed nor disagreed. I was only asked would I call the police if I saw it happen IRL at a bus stop, and I said yes I would.

So do you agree that the police should be called to investigate what the DL did to that boy?

Sudeko · 12/04/2023 10:09

I fully understand why child protection social work has such a dire reputation if it attracts people like you two.

L3ThirtySeven · 12/04/2023 10:11

ananass · 12/04/2023 10:07

You are unutterably naive if you think a man of his power could not possibly have access to children.

Several Buddhist monks have reported sexual abuse as children in Tibet and elsewhere.

He could, but he does not per the reports on how he lives and where he lives.

Yes, as all human societies have child abuse, it’s reasonable to realise that even some Buddhist monks and children in Tibet experience child abuse. No religion or country is free of child abuse.

Mangogirl12 · 12/04/2023 10:13

AllIsBest · 12/04/2023 10:03

@Mangogirl12

Whatever the Dalai Lama's intentions were, he coerced a young boy into intimate physical contact and the DL's helpers clapped and laughed along.

The evidence is there for all to see.

If you support the safeguarding of children, do you agree that there should be an impartial investigation into the incident? In your view, what needs to happen to protect children from the Dalai Lama's inappropriate and damaging behaviour in the future? Whether he has dementia or not?

Yes, I believe there should be an investigation and he kept away from children. But the only part of the topic that really interested me is what drove him to do it. Not commenting on every single aspect doesn't mean I condone, think he shouldn't be investigated, etc etc. I shouldn't have to qualify and cover every single argument that may or may not pop up in a discussion, to discuss possible dementia. It's like if you're discussing cancer and I talk about possible causes, then someone pounces on me for not mentioning possible cures. People wade into an aspect of a discussion that interests them.

L3ThirtySeven · 12/04/2023 10:13

ananass · 12/04/2023 10:09

So do you agree that the police should be called to investigate what the DL did to that boy?

I would like to think that the local Indian police are already fully aware of the incident as it happened in February.

onirgellep · 12/04/2023 10:15

The event in question happened in February and the film began circulating on Indian SM ?earlier this month

Early days. But as yet there hasn't been an outbreak of people saying we always knew he was a paedophile - and as far as I can see no corroboration prior to the film going viral

Maybe evidence of prior offending will come to light in future but until then none of us know which variety of 'sick old man' is the issue here

Keeping an open mind til then doesn't prevent effective safeguarding

ananass · 12/04/2023 10:17

L3ThirtySeven · 12/04/2023 08:48

Me too. I mean the whole “I think the ethnicity of the boy is a factor…” is a really disgusting thing to say and shows more about the minds of those alleging it than those of us for whom it’s not a factor at all.

I’m saying it because I’m aware that unconscious bias to black and brown child victims is a fact. Bame children are often seen as ‘older’ or ‘less innocent’.

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