It's BOUGHT not BROUGHT

[emma1103]

Am I being unreasonable to expect people to know the difference?

So often I'm reading about how people brought this bargain, etc. It just really winds me up for some reason.

Yeah, I knew that's the response you'd come back with - it was predictable🙄. But the type of judgement you (and others on this thread) make on someone with poor spelling does not differentiate in any way, as you just don't know the reasons. And even if people have poor spelling for other reasons than dyslexia, it does not automatically follow they are lazy or ignorant.

You say you don't think you're superior, yet superiority drips through your posts.

It obviously isn't the only excuse. I was responding to a previous poster who mentioned dyslexia.

Have a look at pedants corner you'll love it

It's AIBU not pedant's corner.

Tsk. Actually it's pedants' corner.

Anyway, YANBU OP. But for the sake of your blood pressure you should learn not to let it rile you!

I've got a friend who doesn't know the difference between "No" and "know" in a text, or "through" and "threw". She's in her 60s, so there's no hope at all for her.

I may not know the reasons, but I'm allowed to find it grating. Believe me, it annoys the hell out of me that I often have to correct my own mistakes.

Because Scots pronounce their Rrrrrs !

Just read a thread where OPs son has brought a house!!
Weary/wary, two entirely different words/meanings.

If they say "I brought the children with me" I'd respond with "how much did they cost you?"

If they say "I'll borrow you my book" I will say "how can you borrow a book that is already yours?"

Over time they get it.

@Abhannmor

Exactly!

Yes, of course you're allowed to find it grating, but why does this have to be accompanied by so much scoffing and sneering?

I'm not talking just specifically about you @CellophaneFlower, but there is a lot of it on this thread - sneering at people "bringing" houses etc. It's why I hate threads like this so much 🙁

"I brought the children with me" is correct though?

Obviously this doesn’t apply to those who are dyslexic, but it doesn’t make it ‘rubbish’.

Not sure I agree entirely. I know people who are very intelligent and their spelling and grammar leave a lot to be desired. Some people are just lazy.

But how do you know if they're lazy rather than unintelligent?

And if they're ignorant, is picking them up on their SPaG going to help, when years of schooling didn't?

ignorant

adjective

lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.

If they say "I brought the children with me" I'd respond with "how much did they cost you?"

Why would you embarrass yourself by doing that, when they got it right in the first place?

Yes, some English people say lore and awda instead of law and order. So they put an r where there isn't one and don't pronounce the one that is there. But this is just people saying it how they first heard it when they were young. I don't think it's ignorance. It's predictable, it's language, exactly how humans pick it up and use it.

Diarrhoea & diarroear

Are & our

Winds me up🙉

Yes, the irony.

I don’t like the mix ups of me and I — I see this from university colleagues in the US (& surely academics should know?).

Also dislike the use of “myself”, where me or I should be used. Eg Pam and myself are going shopping shortly. If you have any questions, please find myself later.

A friend said she thinks people use “self” because the speaker thinks it makes them (themself ;-) sound grand (as in posh). I think we need better English lessons.

The way to remember diarrhoea is:

doesn’t
it
always
run
rather
horribly
over
each
ankle

They might - but you didn't!

I saw law and order the same as I would say lore and awda. I have a very standard southern U.K. accent. (But then we are going to get onto giraffe and scarf rhyming/not rhyming, please let’s not)

The pronunciation of "law and order" in connected speech is nothing to do with north v south. It's to do with intrusive R between vowel sounds. "law" ends in a vowel sound, "and" begins with one. Moving your mouth between those two vowels is quite difficult (physically) and often an R sound slips in. It's not a geographical thing.

https://pronunciationstudio.com/intrusive-r/#:~:text=Although%20there's%20no%20in,Fear%20not.
Intrusive R explained for those genuinely interested in how language works and not just here to point and laugh.

@NowZeusHasLainWithLeda

If its not Geographical, then why do Scottish people not do it?

I'm not sure. Don't they? I've not come across any hard and fast rule/observation about Intrusive R tbh. Most people in Scotland use rhoticity but I don't think that would have an effect on Intrusive R. I'll dig round and see if I can find anything.