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DH gave our two year old chilli coated peanuts whilst I was at work

186 replies

Staffielove23 · 05/04/2023 16:52

I wouldn’t dream of giving her a whole peanut. I asked him why, and he said he was sat with her and she was chewing properly. Aibu to think that’s really risky regardless?

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sunmonlight · 05/04/2023 20:54

I'd be annoyed too OP. Whole nuts are strangled advised against until age 5. Big choking risk.

CalloohCallayFrabjousDay · 05/04/2023 20:55

But any food or drink can be a choking hazard! My dad choked on coffee. He went blue and dropped to the floor, my mum picked him up and did the Heimlich manoeuvre on him. He still drinks coffee now...

As long as they were being supervised while eating then don't worry.

maeveiscurious · 05/04/2023 21:03

Just as an aside I watched somebody on a bus feeding pollo mints to a baby and a toddler. They coped with them

sunglassesonthetable · 05/04/2023 21:06

*But any food or drink can be a choking hazard! My dad choked on coffee. He went blue and dropped to the floor, my mum picked him up and did the Heimlich manoeuvre on him. He still drinks coffee now...

As long as they were being supervised while eating then don't worry.*

Of course any food can be a choking hazard.

It's the risk. Clearly less of a risk with a bit of bread for example.

The food items mentioned in the NHS guidance have more risk associated with them. And probably recorded as responsible for more choking.

As an extreme If you had to choose to put a glass marble or a strawberry in your child's mouth which you choose? They could choke on either or not at all. But the risks associated with one are higher.

Morningcoffeeview · 05/04/2023 21:14

maeveiscurious · 05/04/2023 21:03

Just as an aside I watched somebody on a bus feeding pollo mints to a baby and a toddler. They coped with them

Yeah mine smoke a ten pack everyday and seem to cope fine.

Sunshineandshowers42 · 05/04/2023 21:16

JaffaCake70 · 05/04/2023 20:32

Same here, I was quite shocked by the first few responses!
I thought it was common knowledge that you don't give young children nuts? Especially peanuts as they are a choking hazard.
OP is right to be alarmed.

Yes, me too! I knew about the risk of choking on nuts as a child!

Tomkirkman · 05/04/2023 21:16

sunglassesonthetable · 05/04/2023 20:46

On a peanut?

No idea why the NHS bother putting it on their website. Just for lols.

The NHS is guidelines. Which many consistently change.

They have only just changed the do sleeping advice. Peanuts were off limits to pregnant women then not. People do things everyday that aren’t within NHS guidelines.

And yet, no one has been able to link a common trend of kids chocking to death on peanuts. Even the ones who have breathed in bits of nuts and got them stuck, could have done that with any food.

Tomkirkman · 05/04/2023 21:18

Cuwins · 05/04/2023 20:52

@Tomkirkman
@IamKlaus
No not on a nut. My point wasn't actually directly about the nut but about the fact people were suggesting that them being sat supervising their child removed the risk of choking- nut or other food supervising does not remove the risk, it may allow you to act quickly yes but even acting quickly won't necessarily help.

And yet the advice is still to supervise children when eating? What’s the point of it makes no difference?

or is it that supervising does actually increase the chance of being able to do something if a child chokes?

Staffielove23 · 05/04/2023 21:21

Dahliass · 05/04/2023 20:21

If you are that worried go on a first aid course with your DH.

I’m a carer. Fully first aid trained 👍🏻

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sunglassesonthetable · 05/04/2023 21:21

*The NHS is guidelines. Which many consistently change.

They have only just changed the do sleeping advice. Peanuts were off limits to pregnant women then not. People do things everyday that aren’t within NHS guidelines.

And yet, no one has been able to link a common trend of kids chocking to death on peanuts. Even the ones who have breathed in bits of nuts and got them stuck, could have done that with any food.*

Ok. It was pointed out to me by a health visitor about 25 years ago.
It was common knowledge then. Nothing new really.

And of course people ignore guidelines. So what? Read this thread.

Doesn't make it less of a risk.

FabFitFifties · 05/04/2023 21:24

Peanuts are one of the top most common foods for children to choke on

carriedout · 05/04/2023 21:24

sunglassesonthetable · 05/04/2023 20:46

On a peanut?

No idea why the NHS bother putting it on their website. Just for lols.

Yes quite. As if the NHS just made it up for the hell of it Confused

Ludo19 · 05/04/2023 21:25

AFriendToEveryoneIsAFriendToNoOne · 05/04/2023 17:04

You don't need to chill OP a whole peanut is a ridiculous thing to give to a young child. Not too small to be a choking hazard, do people know how small toddlers windpipes are?

I don't give whole peanuts (or unsliced grapes) to my four year old. Even the seven year old still gets sliced grapes, albeit she slices them herself these days. School insist on sliced only in lunchboxes regardless of age so even the year sixes have them sliced. They're nut free so don't know what they'd say about peanuts.

Nothing wrong with toddlers having peanuts/peanut butter etc but tell your DH not to give them whole.

This 100%

I'm going to say that my mother knew a couple, the husband was a GP. They were sitting at the table and their little boy of about two was in his high chair. They gave him grapes. He started choking, his father quickly stepped in to try and dislodge the grape.....that little boy died so no you've every right to panic even if your DH was first aid trained.

Allthecatsandcosyblankets · 05/04/2023 21:26

Yeah I'd be annoyed too, it's a choking hazard, the right size to get lodged in the throat. Same with uncut Grapes, mini eggs, boiled sweets etc.

Regardless of whether she was chewing it only takes one to get accidentally swallowed whole - A quick Google of choking hazards includes nuts.

Dahliass · 05/04/2023 21:29

Definitely cut nuts up don't do pureeing though that's OTT. The only food I've ever choked on was lamb tikka masala when I was a child it was chewy and I was lazy I've choked on steak as an adult also the same issue I didn't chew enough.

MMAMPWGHAP · 05/04/2023 21:32

I know of two deaths from kids choking. One was a carrot stick the other a marshmallow. The kids were in the 4-6 year range.

MajorCarolDanvers · 05/04/2023 21:39

Hercisback · 05/04/2023 17:26

The NHS has very strict rules about a lot of things that aren't always based on evidence, more based on them expecting all humans to be really stupid.

They are not rules.

They provide advice and guidance which you can chose to follow or not.

Tomkirkman · 05/04/2023 21:52

sunglassesonthetable · 05/04/2023 21:21

*The NHS is guidelines. Which many consistently change.

They have only just changed the do sleeping advice. Peanuts were off limits to pregnant women then not. People do things everyday that aren’t within NHS guidelines.

And yet, no one has been able to link a common trend of kids chocking to death on peanuts. Even the ones who have breathed in bits of nuts and got them stuck, could have done that with any food.*

Ok. It was pointed out to me by a health visitor about 25 years ago.
It was common knowledge then. Nothing new really.

And of course people ignore guidelines. So what? Read this thread.

Doesn't make it less of a risk.

What was pointed out?

That children should be supervised when eating?

when I had my eldest the midwife and go told me eating peanuts during pregnancy would increase the risk of my child being allergic to nuts. That’s not the case now either. Being told something 25 years ago doesn’t make it more credible.

No one has managed one link where this choking hazard has caused a lot of death or even almost death. The biggest danger appears to be breathing in fragments.

So many people saying ‘cut it up’, that increases the chance of a child breathing a small piece. Which actually looking like a bigger risk than choking. That’s odd because that’s coming from people who also agree that it’s a huge choking hazard and should be avoided.

Even breathing it in It’s extremely rare.

sunglassesonthetable · 05/04/2023 23:28

What was pointed out?

That nuts were a choking hazard for small children along with various other things.
*
That children should be supervised when eating?*

when I had my eldest the midwife and go told me eating peanuts during pregnancy would increase the risk of my child being allergic to nuts. That’s not the case now either. Being told something 25 years ago doesn’t make it more credible.

It's not because I was given that info 25 years go but that it remains NHS advice still. The guidelines haven't changed in at least that time.
*
No one has managed one link where this choking hazard has caused a lot of death or even almost death. The biggest danger appears to be breathing in fragments.*

Someone posting a link is hardly the test of veracity. I haven't looked for one. CBA.
*
So many people saying ‘cut it up’, that increases the chance of a child breathing a small piece. Which actually looking like a bigger risk than choking. That’s odd because that’s coming from people who also agree that it’s a huge choking hazard and should be avoided.*

No idea. It was easy enough just not to bother with nuts when my kids were little.

Even breathing it in It’s extremely rare.

Maybe because people follow guidelines.

Annoyingwurringnoise · 05/04/2023 23:32

You’ve made me want chilli peanuts now.

Staffielove23 · 05/04/2023 23:54

Annoyingwurringnoise · 05/04/2023 23:32

You’ve made me want chilli peanuts now.

They are very nice! Slightly annoyed they finished them all. Ha

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StellaAndCrow · 05/04/2023 23:58

I agree that a child that age could choke on a whole peanut. I think the chilli makes it more risky. I've done it myself - done a kind of gasp cough on something spicy and it's "gone down the wrong way".

OKFinally · 06/04/2023 00:02

When DS was very young he wanted to try peanuts, I let him have a few one at a time, and I sat there going CHEW, CHEW,CHEW…………

Two weeks later we were going past the crisps section and he started saying chew chew chew, in a manner most frustrated, I was in the queue for the checkout when I finally figured it out. 😂

Spinninggyro · 06/04/2023 00:06

If a bit of peanut is lodged in a child’s lung the lung itself can become inflamed by reacting to the peanut. A friend who was surgeon had operated on children and he had to remove part of the lung in some cases due to the damage.

Justmeandthedog1 · 06/04/2023 00:56

On a child specific first aid course I was told no peanuts for under fives. Reason given was if they were ingested to the lungs ( which I’d have thought wasn’t good whatever the food) the coating on peanuts could cause specific damage.
This was several years ago so not sure if it’s current thinking but I wouldn’t give peanuts to a small child, lots of other things they can eat.