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'Queen' Camilla

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Replitad · 04/04/2023 23:12

I wouldn't have called myself a republican before now but I think the 'Queen' Camilla thing has tipped me over the edge.

Pretty audacious considering their history and I think a lot of the public won't agree. I certainly won't be celebrating or even watching coronation.

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Mooshamoo · 05/04/2023 00:13

S25 · 05/04/2023 00:09

Her Majesty Queen Camilla.
Her Late Majesty Queen Elizabeth II literally said it was her wish that Camilla become Queen as you know she was originally only ever going to be the Princess Consort but Queen Elizabeth did not want this for her daughter-in-law and that’s why she made a statement that when the time comes that’s what she wanted to have happen.

Camilla and the Charles were made for eachother from the start, their deep love for one another is so clear. I wish people would allow the Late Diana to rest in peace, she’s been gone an awfully long time now and people don’t seem to want to let her rest.
She & Charles were never meant to be. He did not love her. It was an arranged marriage to produce children. He always loved Camilla and it baffles me that people are so blinded by love for Diana that they blame Charles for Diana’s untimely passing and class Camilla as all sorts of negative things. Diana was not an angel either and yet people are all so quick to forgive the things she did because she’s no longer here. None of us have any idea whatsoever what it was like for Charles to have to marry someone that was so young and whom he had very little interest in or anything in common with. He would have undoubtedly married Camilla instead and still been so happily married to her now but it wasn’t allowed.
Charles & Camilla are both fantastic human beings with great passions and The King a man way ahead of his time by way of his environmental endeavours. I like them both and I’m not particularly a royalist and I’m also only fairly young (born in the 90s) which I think makes me young enough to be separate from those in the middle age and above that have this very strange (in my opinion) infatuation with Diana still to this day instead of moving on.

I don't think Diana was an angel. But I don't think Camilla is either.

Didn't Prince Harry write in his book that Camilla had her eye on the long game. He said That Camilla had her eye on the crown.

Harry would know wouldn't he

Vanderlayinfustries · 05/04/2023 00:14

My Y3 can use Canva. I taught her it two years ago. The harder stuff can be the bane of our life but a kid would knock that invite up in it.

DappledThings · 05/04/2023 00:14

Vanderlayinfustries · 05/04/2023 00:11

I saw speculation in headlines but when you read the story she never said that at all. Stop falling for the press manipulation machine. Unless the queen out out a statement we have no idea. She did not

And when, in the fullness of time, my son Charles becomes King, I know you will give him and his wife Camilla the same support that you have given me; and it is my sincere wish that, when that time comes, Camilla will be known as Queen Consort as she continues her own loyal service
Which means she's Queen. A number of people seem to think Queen Consort is some half-hearted title dreamt up specifically for Camilla. As opposed to being what the wife of every king has been and it meaning she is Queen Camilla. See my previous quote from BBC article of the time saying that.

Eyerollcentral · 05/04/2023 00:15

Replitad · 04/04/2023 23:34

Exactly! I forget how royalist everyone in here is. They can do no wrong it seems.

The whole thing is a joke, monarchy is a nonsense. Your comments make you seem like the ultra royalist. Do you actually think of Charlie as your supreme monarch? If not why do you gaf what she is called?

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 00:15

@PurpleAirGuitar step away from Canva - no good can come from trying to understand it

MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 05/04/2023 00:15

Camilla and the Charles were made for eachother from the start, their deep love for one another is so clear. I wish people would allow the Late Diana to rest in peace, she’s been gone an awfully long time now and people don’t seem to want to let her rest.

some very entertaining posts tonight.

Do you think Di's ghostly form is wafting about Buckingham Palace (in cycling shorts and an oversized sweatshirt)? She's dead. She's at rest, love.

ClassicLib · 05/04/2023 00:15

It’s difficult to understand why anyone should be at all surprised by this. Are they really that historically ignorant? The King’s wife is the Queen. That is how it has always been. ‘Queen Consort’ was always a bit of meaningless PR nonsense to placate the tabloids, and after Camilla is crowned it will rightly be dropped.

Camilla is now Queen in exactly the same way that Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon was Queen when she was the wife of King George VI between his accession in 1936 & his death in 1952. After that, she was known as Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother for the rest of her life.

Mooshamoo · 05/04/2023 00:15

Oh well.

Camilla won.

She played a long game . And she won.

Let's bow down to our new ruler

Rosula · 05/04/2023 00:16

Vanderlayinfustries · 04/04/2023 23:56

Someone asks me who promised she'd be princess consort in a sealion manner.

When I said they promised I obviously meant Charles and Camilla. They promised this in 2005 when they got married. I clearly remember it from the time and many sources have referred to it of late. See pic.

That's a statement of their then intention, not a promise. People are allowed to change their intentions. A couple of years, ago, I fully intended to have moved house by the end of 2023, I've changed my mind. That doesn't mean I've broken a promise.

cyclamenqueen · 05/04/2023 00:17

Mooshamoo · 05/04/2023 00:09

We have looked at Camilla and Charles for so long that they have kind of become normal.

Lets look at it as if it was happening in another country.

Say the king of Spain was married.
The king had an affair with a woman behind his wife's back for many years.
His first wife died tragically.
The king then goes on the marry the woman he had an affair with, and expects the public to accept her as queen. I honestly think there would be protests in Spain.

Camilla is not popular. I've heard a lot of anti Camilla sentiment lately.

A lot of people are not happy about her being queen.

The Queen of Spain is a divorcee . The ex King of Spain had numerous mistresses and has very little to do with the Dowager Queen . The current Kings sister was stripped of her title because of a corruption scandal . I hardly think the Spanish are paragons of virtue

Rosula · 05/04/2023 00:17

Vanderlayinfustries · 04/04/2023 23:57

Adding to the above the Queen EIi agreed to the marriage on the grounds of this promise

As she wanted Camilla to be known as Queen on Charles' accession, clearly that isn't correct.

Vanderlayinfustries · 05/04/2023 00:17

S25 · 05/04/2023 00:09

Her Majesty Queen Camilla.
Her Late Majesty Queen Elizabeth II literally said it was her wish that Camilla become Queen as you know she was originally only ever going to be the Princess Consort but Queen Elizabeth did not want this for her daughter-in-law and that’s why she made a statement that when the time comes that’s what she wanted to have happen.

Camilla and the Charles were made for eachother from the start, their deep love for one another is so clear. I wish people would allow the Late Diana to rest in peace, she’s been gone an awfully long time now and people don’t seem to want to let her rest.
She & Charles were never meant to be. He did not love her. It was an arranged marriage to produce children. He always loved Camilla and it baffles me that people are so blinded by love for Diana that they blame Charles for Diana’s untimely passing and class Camilla as all sorts of negative things. Diana was not an angel either and yet people are all so quick to forgive the things she did because she’s no longer here. None of us have any idea whatsoever what it was like for Charles to have to marry someone that was so young and whom he had very little interest in or anything in common with. He would have undoubtedly married Camilla instead and still been so happily married to her now but it wasn’t allowed.
Charles & Camilla are both fantastic human beings with great passions and The King a man way ahead of his time by way of his environmental endeavours. I like them both and I’m not particularly a royalist and I’m also only fairly young (born in the 90s) which I think makes me young enough to be separate from those in the middle age and above that have this very strange (in my opinion) infatuation with Diana still to this day instead of moving on.

Please show me where she "literally" saidvit implicitly word for word

No paraphrased in a headline by one of the papers Camilla literally schmoozes and invites for tea

Mooshamoo · 05/04/2023 00:17

Didn't Prince Harry call Camilla "dangerous" recently.

nocoolnamesleft · 05/04/2023 00:18

jays · 04/04/2023 23:33

i mean, could the bar be any lower? 😂

Irony doesn't always come across very well online...

cyclamenqueen · 05/04/2023 00:18

Mooshamoo · 05/04/2023 00:15

Oh well.

Camilla won.

She played a long game . And she won.

Let's bow down to our new ruler

She is not the ruler she is married to the ruler or theoretical ruler anyway

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 00:19

They don’t rule, they reign

Rosula · 05/04/2023 00:19

blacksax · 05/04/2023 00:05

It was all over the media at the time it happened.

No, it wasn't.

JudgeJ · 05/04/2023 00:20

GrandTheftWalrus · 04/04/2023 23:24

Was the queen mother not known as Queen Elizabeth when her husband was king?

Yes, the same as Queen Mary, Queen Alexandra etc, I can't think of any Queen Consorts.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 00:20

Mooshamoo · 05/04/2023 00:17

Didn't Prince Harry call Camilla "dangerous" recently.

Well if hypocritical over privileged whiny victim-complex exaggerator Harry says it then it must be true.

Mooshamoo · 05/04/2023 00:20

cyclamenqueen · 05/04/2023 00:17

The Queen of Spain is a divorcee . The ex King of Spain had numerous mistresses and has very little to do with the Dowager Queen . The current Kings sister was stripped of her title because of a corruption scandal . I hardly think the Spanish are paragons of virtue

You said the ex king of Spain had numerous mistresses. True.

What you forgot to write was this part :"the ex king of Spain was made to STEP DOWN as king, because of his numerous mistresses. And other corruption".

That is why he is ex king of Spain.

He was made to step down as king of Spain. because of his mistresses, his bad behaviour and corruption.

Yet here we are fawning over Charles and Camilla like sheep

DappledThings · 05/04/2023 00:21

Vanderlayinfustries · 05/04/2023 00:17

Please show me where she "literally" saidvit implicitly word for word

No paraphrased in a headline by one of the papers Camilla literally schmoozes and invites for tea

And when, in the fullness of time, my son Charles becomes King, I know you will give him and his wife Camilla the same support that you have given me; and it is my sincere wish that, when that time comes, Camilla will be known as Queen Consort as she continues her own loyal service
Queen Consort = Queen. It isn't paraphrasing to say that, it's the way the title has been used for decades. Centuries probably.

LuluBlakey1 · 05/04/2023 00:21

Every Queen Consort is known as Queen. There is no reason why she should be any different. Neither Charles nor Diana were faithful- she had many affairs, he simply went back to Camilla. It was 30 0dd years ago. They are happy. I like her - just gets on doing her things- children's charities, children's reading, do estic violence charities, animal charities, osteoporosis. No fuss. She is not the monarch but she is Queen.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 00:21

Rosula · 05/04/2023 00:19

No, it wasn't.

It really was. It was last year around the time of the Jubilee, the Queen made a public statement about it.

S25 · 05/04/2023 00:21

Mooshamoo · 05/04/2023 00:13

I don't think Diana was an angel. But I don't think Camilla is either.

Didn't Prince Harry write in his book that Camilla had her eye on the long game. He said That Camilla had her eye on the crown.

Harry would know wouldn't he

None are angels. What I’m saying is Diana and Charles were never meant to be and people harping on about the poor woman when she’s been dead about 25 years won’t change the fact that Charles never loved her. Diana would never have become Queen because they were already divorced before she died and yet these people go on about how she should have been the Queen but that never would have been the case anyway. Charles and Camilla were always meant to be. The reason so many middle-aged and above people don't like Camilla or want her to be known as Queen Camilla and don’t think she is worthy etc etc is because of how infatuated they were (and still are!) with Diana.

Vanderlayinfustries · 05/04/2023 00:22

I can only find the queen Elizabeth saying she wished for Camilla to be known as queen consort. Never queen. This was only said iwhildy unwell in the months before her death after years of the wish being princess consort. Never literally said she wants her to be queen once

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