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PussBilledDuckyPlait · 05/04/2023 17:32

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As you seem to be a person who thinks it's OK to refer to a woman as 'it' because you don't find her attractive, I don't attach any weight to your opinion.

TigerQueen89 · 05/04/2023 17:33

Pretty audacious considering their history

It was years ago and you don’t even know these people so probably let it go….

PomRuns · 05/04/2023 17:35

She seems very nice, think it's fine.

I find it strange people are still so bothered about the past relationships (Diana wasn't so great either).

2bazookas · 05/04/2023 17:35

@MrsOnions248 · Today 13:31
I think it speaks volumes about the woman who would love to style herself as “Queen”. Too bad for her, the facts speak for themselves. We’ve all seen who she is.

Have we? What I see is a down to earth woman, puts on no airs, who appears to have very little personal interest in the royal court, pageantry, etc etc.

BigMandsTattooPortfolio · 05/04/2023 17:36

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It?

Wow.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 17:57

Feemie · 05/04/2023 16:36

It in no way required a smear campaign by a powerful ex to make it very clear that Diana was a not very bright, poorly-educated woman from a dysfunctional family background, who, unsurprisingly, made a string of disastrous decisions about relationships (her marriage and her extra- and post-marital ones) and friendships which were carried out in a glare of publicity she partly hated and partly manipulated, tended to surround herself with ridiculous hangers-on and woo-pedlars, and was fickle, venal and eating-disordered.

Her messiness and capacity for bad decisions, combined with her ability to look well in a nice frock, was what endeared her to people. But I think that would have faded with age, especially if she continued her associations with ‘unsuitable’ men. The press is cruel to ageing women looking for love.

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This.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 17:59

Dahliass · 05/04/2023 17:05

I hope William and even eugh harry have been consulted on this decision.

Why would they? It’s an entitlement she has regardless when her husband ascended the throne.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 18:00

IcedPurple · 05/04/2023 17:06

Why should they be?

And there's not really any 'decision' to be made. Camilla is Queen and has been since the moment her husband became King.

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Yes she was even referred to as Queen in the statement released about QE2’s death.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 18:02

Dahliass · 05/04/2023 17:11

Because their DM is dead and the OW got the crown. I think many DC wouldn't be happy with it. They should have kept it as Queen Consort but Charles won't stop pushing it. I don't think it's Camilla who's that bothered she's very laid back by all accounts.

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Queen consort IS Queen.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 18:02

PussBilledDuckyPlait · 05/04/2023 17:12

The whole narrative that Camilla is unattractive is rubbish drivelled out by the tabloids. If Camilla were your neighbour or your colleague, you'd think she was a perfectly nice-looking woman.

Yes and IMO she has aged very well, and looks fantastic

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 18:03

AskMeMore · 05/04/2023 17:15

Camilla is an ordinary looking woman like my next door neighbour.
People say she is unattractive because they contrast her with Diana who was very beautiful.

Or the celebrity standard of conventionally good looking.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 18:04

AskMeMore · 05/04/2023 17:16

@BMW6 Although that is true, the public were promised that she would never be called Queen. So you it is not surprising some people are unhappy. They do not yet realise the Palace lies whenever it suits them.

The public were never promised. Stop making things up.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 18:05

AskMeMore · 05/04/2023 17:25

@BMW6 It was made. But you are right the words were not used that "we promise not to ever call her Queen".
They said she would always be known as Consort.

She is known as Consort because she IS the consort. And the consort is the Queen.

AskMeMore · 05/04/2023 18:08

@TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl That is the kind of word play the Royals use all the time to claim they do not lie.
Instead they constantly lie. Pay attention. When they deny an allegation e.g. Andrew did not meet y on Thursday the 8th of April, you know they did meet, but perhaps on the 9th. It is written in a way to read as if they are denying something happened, without lying. They do it all the time.

PollyThePixie · 05/04/2023 18:08

Do you boycott other people's life events because their story started with an affair?

Yes. And it’s quite easy because it’s not something you have to make a song and dance about. You just very quietly make yourself not available. Not that I’ve much experience of doing it. And people who’ve had an affair and end up married to their affair partner are usually very savvy when it comes to these kind of situations and they more then likely don’t care that whilst some of the friends and relatives accept the situation others don’t.

AskMeMore · 05/04/2023 18:09

Recollections may vary was another example. They do not say he is lying, because the chances are that it is true. They instead utter a vague statement that have all the Royalists arguing look he is lying, the Queen herself said so.

AskMeMore · 05/04/2023 18:10

And personally I do boycott people whose marriages began with a serious affair. It shows a lack of morals.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 18:11

AskMeMore · 05/04/2023 18:08

@TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl That is the kind of word play the Royals use all the time to claim they do not lie.
Instead they constantly lie. Pay attention. When they deny an allegation e.g. Andrew did not meet y on Thursday the 8th of April, you know they did meet, but perhaps on the 9th. It is written in a way to read as if they are denying something happened, without lying. They do it all the time.

They stated they had plans to do something.

17 years later the plans changed.

Big whoop.

Why is anyone surprised when it was announced a year ago Camilla would be known as Queen. Nothing to do with wordplay or trickery, just plain old ‘this is what is gonna happen when I pop my clogs’

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 18:12

PollyThePixie · 05/04/2023 18:08

Do you boycott other people's life events because their story started with an affair?

Yes. And it’s quite easy because it’s not something you have to make a song and dance about. You just very quietly make yourself not available. Not that I’ve much experience of doing it. And people who’ve had an affair and end up married to their affair partner are usually very savvy when it comes to these kind of situations and they more then likely don’t care that whilst some of the friends and relatives accept the situation others don’t.

Wow I would t speak to my SIL or nieces and nephews if that’s the case. Pleased I’m not so black and white and judgemental

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 18:13

AskMeMore · 05/04/2023 18:09

Recollections may vary was another example. They do not say he is lying, because the chances are that it is true. They instead utter a vague statement that have all the Royalists arguing look he is lying, the Queen herself said so.

The Queen said what exactly?

Harry and Meghan are proven liars time and again. And no they would never (and should never) say ‘they’re liars’. Recollections May Vary is correct and diplomatic way to go about the underhand family feud those spoilt brats have started.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 18:13

AskMeMore · 05/04/2023 18:10

And personally I do boycott people whose marriages began with a serious affair. It shows a lack of morals.

I’m pleased I don’t insist only on having contact with people whose behaviour and values align exactly with mine all the time.

suburbophobe · 05/04/2023 18:15

That's it with the Royal family.

They provide wonderful gossip. 😁

I say good on them. They have to carry it on now. What went on before is all water under the bridge.

CarolinaInTheMorning · 05/04/2023 18:17

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 18:13

I’m pleased I don’t insist only on having contact with people whose behaviour and values align exactly with mine all the time.

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Same here. I don't know anyone who has such a rigid view of people's foibles as some posters on this thread. And I live in the US Bible Belt.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 18:17

I find it utterly baffling when celebrities apologise for having affairs - I sit there thinking why are you apologising, you didn’t cheat on me.

Turns out, there really are people who give a shit when other people are unfaithful and expect an explanation. And to disown someone - how utterly ridiculous.

Itsnamechange · 05/04/2023 18:18

This thread has been the gift that keeps going. Tampons, STIs and Michael Jackson.

I'd like to nominate it for classics.