Page 24 | 'Queen' Camilla

Replitad · 2023-04-04T22:12:17+00:00

I wouldn't have called myself a republican before now but I think the 'Queen' Camilla thing has tipped me over the edge. Pretty audacious considering their history and I think a lot of the public won't agree. I certainly won't be celebrating or even watching coronation.

kierenthecommunity · 05/04/2023 15:41

Cloud9isnowclosed · 05/04/2023 15:32

@Mooshamoo When did all these conversations with your male friends about Diana/Camilla take place?

Good question. I couldn’t even tell you what my DH or male friends’s opinions of PD or QC are.

I’m guessing most would probably say Diana was more attractive but so what? Charles obviously disagreed.

winningeasy · 05/04/2023 15:41

Diana will always be the queen of our hearts!

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 15:42

winningeasy · 05/04/2023 15:41

Diana will always be the queen of our hearts!

🤮

Rosula · 05/04/2023 15:43

Mooshamoo · 05/04/2023 09:56

Charles also filmed a documentary around this time , where he admitted adultery.

Have you forgotten that one? He did the exact same action as Diana.

Is he unhinged aswell so?

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Self-evidently, i's not the action of filming something that makes a person look unhinged; it's how they behave whilst being filmed. And their respective behaviours were very, very different. It's worth bearing in mind that, by that stage, Diana was wandering around sleeping with different married men whilst Charles was actually in a stable relationship.

Schmutter · 05/04/2023 15:47

winningeasy · 05/04/2023 15:41

Diana will always be the queen of our hearts!

😂I assume that’s a wind up.

Rosula · 05/04/2023 15:51

Mooshamoo · 05/04/2023 10:15

Diana was a teenager when she married. She married a man who was having a relationship with another woman. She had to cope with this in front of the world.

At a very young age..

How would any of us coped! No wonder she had anxiety

She wasn't a teenager. Her problems arose at last as much from the fact that she had a very dysfunctional upbringing and an unsupportive birth family. After all, plenty of very young wives cope whilst their husbands are, for instance, away for long stretches of time on active service.

Rosula · 05/04/2023 15:56

Mooshamoo · 05/04/2023 10:37

Yes I just double checked the dates of Dianas birthday and wedding day.

Her birthday is the start of July. Her wedding day was the end of July.

So she was 20 for one month, when she married Charles.

And? She isn't a teenager as you keep asserting.

KateFeather · 05/04/2023 15:58

I'm glad she is now Queen Camilla. It should serve as a reminder that we didn't get to choose any of them so why are some getting annoyed at this in particular?

Amispringy · 05/04/2023 15:59

winningeasy · 05/04/2023 15:41

Diana will always be the queen of our hearts!

2bazookas · 05/04/2023 16:00

GrandTheftWalrus · 04/04/2023 23:22

Where does it say she's just queen camilla?

On the official invitations to the Coronations of King Charles111 and Queen Camilla

Rosula · 05/04/2023 16:12

Mooshamoo · 05/04/2023 11:05

I don't think she was unhinged at all. You do. Not everyone agrees with you.

In fact I wouldn't be cruel enough to describe anyone as unhinged.

I think a 20 year old marrying into the royal family would find it very tough. Especially as Charles didn't love and support her. She had anxiety and struggled. She wasn't unhinged.

Many women have not been able to cope with being in the royal family. Chelsey Davy said she found it severely stressful just going out with prince harry, as the media followed her every move. She said she couldn't bear the lifestyle.

It would have been difficult for Diana too.

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She admitted to bulimia, deliberately throwing herself down stairs to get attention, making sure her unfortunate son knew all about it when she was upset. She threw herself at various married men, to the extent of making silent phone calls to one and turning up unannounced and sitting silently till his wife made herself scarce. None of that is just the conduct of someone who is anxious and struggling. It clearly goes much further than that.

And it was fully acknowledged at the time. It was only because she died young that the papers did a massive U-turn from vilifying her and sanctified her overnight that this myth has grown up that she was some sort of living saint.

LBFseBrom · 05/04/2023 16:16

Rosula · 05/04/2023 16:12

She admitted to bulimia, deliberately throwing herself down stairs to get attention, making sure her unfortunate son knew all about it when she was upset. She threw herself at various married men, to the extent of making silent phone calls to one and turning up unannounced and sitting silently till his wife made herself scarce. None of that is just the conduct of someone who is anxious and struggling. It clearly goes much further than that.

And it was fully acknowledged at the time. It was only because she died young that the papers did a massive U-turn from vilifying her and sanctified her overnight that this myth has grown up that she was some sort of living saint.

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She was a lovely, unspoilt girl, almost ruined by a selfish, faithless husband. Thankfully after they split she was able to throw herself into work at which she excelled. However she didn't find true, lasting love.

neverending2 · 05/04/2023 16:22

If it was plain old Joe Bloggs who had treated plain old Jane the way Diana was treated by Charles the MN crew would have a fit saying LTB, don't put up with it, he is a cunt, etc. According to the royalists on here it is ok the way she was treated because it was a member of the royal family. These people should get a life instead of sucking up to these knobs.

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 05/04/2023 16:23

She is the Queen, whether you like it or not, as she is married to the King. No need for the sarky inverted commas, either... Though I suspect you're the sort who'd put finger quotes up when referring to her.

Diana herself didn't expect to be Queen anyway, that's where the "queen of people's hearts" nonsense came from...

Rosula · 05/04/2023 16:28

AskMeMore · 05/04/2023 12:58

Charles is now Head of the C of E. It is clearly at odds with the role of Charles and Camilla as King and Queen.

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Go and have a look at how the C of E came into being. You are in for a nasty shock

Vicliz24 · 05/04/2023 16:33

HappinessDragon · 04/04/2023 23:22

I’m Team Queen. Shit happens. Life happens. Let people be happy with their partners for goodness sake. This was not a one way street.
Also, it doesn’t affect my life in any way. How does it affect yours op?

This

Feemie · 05/04/2023 16:36

Rosula · 05/04/2023 15:38

Diana herself kept on about her mental health problems. Bulimia doesn't tend to be encountered in people with good mental health

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It in no way required a smear campaign by a powerful ex to make it very clear that Diana was a not very bright, poorly-educated woman from a dysfunctional family background, who, unsurprisingly, made a string of disastrous decisions about relationships (her marriage and her extra- and post-marital ones) and friendships which were carried out in a glare of publicity she partly hated and partly manipulated, tended to surround herself with ridiculous hangers-on and woo-pedlars, and was fickle, venal and eating-disordered.

Her messiness and capacity for bad decisions, combined with her ability to look well in a nice frock, was what endeared her to people. But I think that would have faded with age, especially if she continued her associations with ‘unsuitable’ men. The press is cruel to ageing women looking for love.

AmaryIlis · 05/04/2023 16:37

MrsOnions248 · 05/04/2023 13:31

I think it speaks volumes about the woman who would love to style herself as “Queen”. Too bad for her, the facts speak for themselves. We’ve all seen who she is.

In my generous moments, I do feel a little bit sorry for her. Imagine forever being compared to Princess Diana, knowing you’ll always come up short.

You have such a short memory. By the time she died, Diana was generally viewed as an ordinary, flawed human being who was sadly making herself a bit of a laughing stock with her desperate grabs at publicity. There were standing jokes at the time about things like those photos of her dripping mascara over heart surgery patients, looking up through her lashes at the cameras claiming how "daunting" it all was, throwing herself at various rich and/or married men, etc etc. People used to joke that the RF were on standby every time there was a disaster to try to get to the victims before she and her speed-dialled paparazzi did. Yes, after she died the tabloids started sanctifying her, but most people apart from an ever-shrinking bunch of rabid fans were and are much more realistic.

So no, I really don't imagine that Camilla is in the least bothered about comparisons.

Schmutter · 05/04/2023 16:38

Feemie · 05/04/2023 16:36

It in no way required a smear campaign by a powerful ex to make it very clear that Diana was a not very bright, poorly-educated woman from a dysfunctional family background, who, unsurprisingly, made a string of disastrous decisions about relationships (her marriage and her extra- and post-marital ones) and friendships which were carried out in a glare of publicity she partly hated and partly manipulated, tended to surround herself with ridiculous hangers-on and woo-pedlars, and was fickle, venal and eating-disordered.

Her messiness and capacity for bad decisions, combined with her ability to look well in a nice frock, was what endeared her to people. But I think that would have faded with age, especially if she continued her associations with ‘unsuitable’ men. The press is cruel to ageing women looking for love.

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I could not have put this better myself.

Rosula · 05/04/2023 16:45

I assume you viewed Diana in the same way, given her penchant for married men?

Rosula · 05/04/2023 16:47

SimplyAverage · 05/04/2023 14:15

I wouldn't touch a home made cake by a cheating skank, old fat tanpon fingers could be so potentially full of lust they would crack one out and not wash their hands and put STIs in the food. That's how I look at cheats, along with wasting taxpayers money.

I assume you viewed Diana in the same way, given her penchant for married men?

Rosula · 05/04/2023 16:51

Mooshamoo · 05/04/2023 14:30

Diana was absolutely stunningly beautiful. Charles never was.
Men all over the world thought Diana was stunning.
It's interesting that charles didn't appreciate Diana and seemed to actively dislike Diana isn't it.

Talk about the worst man that Diana could have ended up with.

I remember Michael Jackson said that he met Diana and Charles. Michael said that he thought Diana was breath takingly beautiful, and he thought that she was nice and kind. Michael said he could tell from the meeting that Charles didn't love Diana. He said he thought it was sad.

I do think it is sad that when thousands of men all over the world admired Diana, she was stuck with the one man that didn't care about her. It is sad.

She deserved a man that loved her.

Thinking that someone as a young woman in her 20s looks good does not equate to admiring her.

Rosula · 05/04/2023 16:54

Mooshamoo · 05/04/2023 14:45

All men think that Diana was a stunner. I remember several male friends saying to me that they thought Diana was absolutely beautiful. And that they thought that Camilla was really ugly.

Even Prince Phillip said it in a letter to Diana! He wrote "I can't understand why Charles would choose Camilla over you".

Looks are not everything. But men definitely thought that Diana was beautiful

No, all men really don't. Your memory of what "several male friends" said to you does not mean you know what all men think.

Feemie · 05/04/2023 16:57

Rosula · 05/04/2023 16:47

I assume you viewed Diana in the same way, given her penchant for married men?

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I’m actually kind of in awe at @SimplyAverage ’s post. I’ve read it several times. If someone read that out in a creative writing seminar the module leader would say ‘Well, a lot going on there! Who’d like to start?’

Rosula · 05/04/2023 16:58

Mooshamoo · 05/04/2023 14:47

I think a lot of people thought it was shocking that Charles would choose Camilla over Diana. I remember my male friend looking at a picture of Camilla and saying "I just can't see what Charles sees in her, she is absolutely awful"

It just goes to show that looks aren't everything.

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Finally, you've got to the point. Looks indeed are not everything. If people chose their life partner solely on the basis of looks, there would be an awful lot of very miserable people around. The plain fact is that people choose on the basis of a variety of factors, of which basic personal compatibility usually comes very high on the list, whilst looks will be relatively low. All these suggestions that it's weird to prefer another women to Diana solely because of how she looked are really ridiculous.