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'Queen' Camilla

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Replitad · 04/04/2023 23:12

I wouldn't have called myself a republican before now but I think the 'Queen' Camilla thing has tipped me over the edge.

Pretty audacious considering their history and I think a lot of the public won't agree. I certainly won't be celebrating or even watching coronation.

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Mooshamoo · 05/04/2023 10:24

I think what really annoys me about Charles and Camillas affair is this.

It's not like Charles married Diana and loved her and was kind to her, and then saw Camilla a couple of times on the side.

Charles married Diana and then acted like she didn't exist. He carried on his full relationship with Camilla, and he treated Diana like dirt.

Diana was a teenager. Charles and Camilla were in their thirties at the time.

I just think it was so heartless and cruel. Diana was brought in as the teen virgin bride to provide heirs. And she then was discarded by him like dirt. And he carried on with the woman that he loved.

I think it is so cruel to do it to a very young woman.

Charles was a lot older than her. He ruined a lot of Diana's life.

Laiste · 05/04/2023 10:27

Apparently they only met 13 times before they got married.

She was 16 the first time they met. She was 19 when he proposed.

ToriLynn · 05/04/2023 10:28

Does it really matter? Her role, duty and responsibilities don't change because of 1 word 🤦‍♀️ it's the 21st century ffs, people get divorced, I don't personally like divorce, but that's my issue, from what I can gather all 3 of them were as bad as each other.

Rosula · 05/04/2023 10:29

Mooshamoo · 05/04/2023 10:24

I think what really annoys me about Charles and Camillas affair is this.

It's not like Charles married Diana and loved her and was kind to her, and then saw Camilla a couple of times on the side.

Charles married Diana and then acted like she didn't exist. He carried on his full relationship with Camilla, and he treated Diana like dirt.

Diana was a teenager. Charles and Camilla were in their thirties at the time.

I just think it was so heartless and cruel. Diana was brought in as the teen virgin bride to provide heirs. And she then was discarded by him like dirt. And he carried on with the woman that he loved.

I think it is so cruel to do it to a very young woman.

Charles was a lot older than her. He ruined a lot of Diana's life.

I think you've made the mistake of swallowing the tabloid/Diana version hook, line and sinker; the reality is that you have no idea what went on within their marriage. I don't dispute that he behaved badly, but it's pretty clear that he didn't spend the entire marriage treating Diana as if she didn't exist/like dirt etc. Diana was not a teenager, she was 20 when they got married and 35 when they divorced.

Beantag · 05/04/2023 10:31

Mooshamoo · 05/04/2023 09:31

We were told that she wasn't wearing her seatbelt. That doesn't mean that she wasn't wearing it. Question what you are told.

I won't question it because in honesty I don't care beyond posting a few messages on a forum. But french police and ambulance crew were first on the scene, are you suggesting they're part of the conspiracy or that they have happily concealed the truth for unknown reasons all of these years? What motive would they have?

SimplyAverage · 05/04/2023 10:31

Laiste · 05/04/2023 10:27

Apparently they only met 13 times before they got married.

She was 16 the first time they met. She was 19 when he proposed.

The parallels with Andrew are so often missed, remember how Andrew gaslighting us about not sweating?

I can only imagine what Diana and Fergie went through with those men and the PR teams they called the men in grey.

Try going through that as a teen and come out looking sane!

vera99 · 05/04/2023 10:31

Yellow is the colour of peaceful protest on the day. Vinted has sold out !

https://www.republic.org.uk/resources

Protest resources

https://www.republic.org.uk/resources

Laiste · 05/04/2023 10:33

Laiste · 05/04/2023 10:27

Apparently they only met 13 times before they got married.

She was 16 the first time they met. She was 19 when he proposed.

Just to repeat myself here.

She was a teenager when he approached her romantically. He was 32. Bit yuk IMO.

SimplyAverage · 05/04/2023 10:35

Rosula · 05/04/2023 10:29

I think you've made the mistake of swallowing the tabloid/Diana version hook, line and sinker; the reality is that you have no idea what went on within their marriage. I don't dispute that he behaved badly, but it's pretty clear that he didn't spend the entire marriage treating Diana as if she didn't exist/like dirt etc. Diana was not a teenager, she was 20 when they got married and 35 when they divorced.

Diana was born on 1st July.

Look at the wedding date, she was just barely 20, barley 21 when she had William.

She died at the end of August she only had her birthday 2 months before.

Look at how old Charles was when they married.

As I say nobody's brain is fully developed until 25.

Imagine being a teen, engaged and dealing with his gaslighting never mind the Palace PR too.

Mooshamoo · 05/04/2023 10:36

Yes he said he liked her when she was 16. He was much much older. A bit yuck all round

Mooshamoo · 05/04/2023 10:37

Yes I just double checked the dates of Dianas birthday and wedding day.

Her birthday is the start of July. Her wedding day was the end of July.

So she was 20 for one month, when she married Charles.

CantThinkOfUserID · 05/04/2023 10:40

If his family hadn't stopped him from marrying her in the first place then it would all have been a lot easier. It was practically an arranged marriage with Diana. Let them be happy now. And frankly who cares what she's called? Also, Elizabeth II gave this her blessing.

SimplyAverage · 05/04/2023 10:43

CantThinkOfUserID · 05/04/2023 10:40

If his family hadn't stopped him from marrying her in the first place then it would all have been a lot easier. It was practically an arranged marriage with Diana. Let them be happy now. And frankly who cares what she's called? Also, Elizabeth II gave this her blessing.

Again Phillip and QEII have Diana and Andrew parallels.

Elizabeth 13 and Phillip late teens when he started to groom her parents and her.

The media I noticed never brings these things up.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 10:44

Changeau · 05/04/2023 10:16

Yes they did, particularly when she was shagging Dodi.

Yes I remember the ‘race-traitor’ style headlines. Shocking.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 10:45

Mooshamoo · 05/04/2023 10:18

Poor diana

The woman has been dead 25 years. Why poor Diana? She doesn’t know what’s happening and it had all loved on (as had she) by the time she died anyway.

Mooshamoo · 05/04/2023 10:47

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 10:45

The woman has been dead 25 years. Why poor Diana? She doesn’t know what’s happening and it had all loved on (as had she) by the time she died anyway.

I just felt sad for her seeing all the people on here calling her unhinged.

She had a tough life. She had died at a young age. Yet you see more people on here insulting her then saying a kind word about her.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 10:47

SimplyAverage · 05/04/2023 10:20

I also think Fergie suffered the same type of mental abuse as Diana from psychopaths in PR and being around Andrew.

Diana and Fergie were friends before either married. Fergie was older when shd married and should have been wiser to it all. Fergie can't have given her teen friend, then a young mum - very good support and advice.

OMG that’s right just blame the nearest woman 🙄 FYI she was a whole 2 years older and married Andrew FIVE YEARS after Diana married Charles!

Should she have turned back time?!

SimplyAverage · 05/04/2023 10:47

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 10:45

The woman has been dead 25 years. Why poor Diana? She doesn’t know what’s happening and it had all loved on (as had she) by the time she died anyway.

What was done to her and her children has an effect to this day on her son Harry and us as he is monstering us as a nation over the damage done to his mental health by that affair fall out. It is an ongoing problem for us all.

Mooshamoo · 05/04/2023 10:49

The front story on the daily mail today is

"Camilla's long road to redemption".

Subtitle:

How she played the long game. How Camilla went from the queen hating her and the public hating her, to now being a much loved royal.

Makesense12 · 05/04/2023 10:49

I was at a low point in my life in mid 20s and met a man about 12 years older. Generally he treated me well but it became apparent unfortunately after I developed some feelings for him that he was firmly entrenched with his old gf who funnily enough looked a little like camilla! And about a decade older than him!

I can't describe how it felt, the little nuances and clues that slowly emerged. It was soul destroying it really was.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 10:50

My SIL had an affair a decade ago and got pregnant by her new man. Her exH was a mess of a human, always getting into debt and Jack shit round the house.

SIL and her new husband now have a 9yo son and her exH is also remarried with a baby on the way. I’m so pleased I’m not so much of a weird loser to still remind everyone and tick them all off despite how much time has moved on and how much things have changed.

SimplyAverage · 05/04/2023 10:50

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 10:47

OMG that’s right just blame the nearest woman 🙄 FYI she was a whole 2 years older and married Andrew FIVE YEARS after Diana married Charles!

Should she have turned back time?!

I am sorry you can't see that I am giving content to younger posters and have twisted what I said, I think you are being disingenuous and shall not engage with you again.

Makesense12 · 05/04/2023 10:51

@SimplyAverage

I agree the legacy is hugely damaging but hasn't damaged us the "people".

This is why camilla must do all she can to make sure Harry and Megan attendance

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 05/04/2023 10:56

And the whole ‘poor Diana was just a child’ nonsense. She was 20 when they married. And it’s not like me or you getting hitched either - she grew up with the RF, she was an aristocrat and spent her life moving in those circles when marriages were still something of a business transaction to keep blood pure. She knew the deal, as did her parents - he didn’t meet her in a nightclub and groom her, she’s one of their own and a Prince would have been the ultimate prize for a young aristocrat.

Similarly people in these circles didnt lead the lives we lead. They don’t do the school run, take the kids home, do chicken nuggets and bath time. It’s the RF FFS, they didn’t bring up their own kids, adultery was absolutely normalised and rife and happens in the upper echelons of any society. Everyone whose everyone would be unfaithful within their small posho pool whilst the kids get shipped off to boarding school from a young age.

I do believe that William, probably so fucking traumatised from witnessing these draconian practices on a modern world, has taken a very different tact. Him and Catherine do the school run, holidays with their kids, take them to the park etc, a bit more of a normal family upbringing. I imagine they do bath times etc they have openly spoke about wanting a more normal childhood for their 3.

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