'Queen' Camilla

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I wouldn't have called myself a republican before now but I think the 'Queen' Camilla thing has tipped me over the edge.

Pretty audacious considering their history and I think a lot of the public won't agree. I certainly won't be celebrating or even watching coronation.

You have to say that Diana dying - benefitted Charles in many, many ways.

You also have to admit that if the royal family wanted to kill anyone off, they would be able to.

Diana said that "Charles is planning an accident in my car".

I've talked to several people about this this week, and one reason Charles and Camilla are extremely unpopular is because people believe that Charles killed Diana.

So the theory is Charles killed his wife , he arranged a car crash. Diana told people she thought Charles was going to plan for her to crash. And then we have to watch him sliding his mistress in.

It's just disgusting.

Do I think the royal family killed Diana? I don't know. However I'm not naive. I knkw if the royak family wanted to kill someone, they would have the means and power to do so.

You're so arrogant and histrionic that you fail to see when you massively contradict yourself and look less than smart.

You're stubbornly sticking to what you think the debate is and rudely refuse to discuss opinion

If others had acted your way and stuck to your titles are fixed line, we never would have had Queen Liz 1 or 2 and the rules about titles wouldn't have been changed for first born girls to be monarch as happened when Kate was pregnant

You don't get to set the rules of a debate and yell at everyone for not sticking to your rules.

People want to discuss if the titles are right. Screaming about rules again and again and again like you have adds nothing. We've heard you. Many times

Meanwhile she would have survived if she'd had her seat belt on, whilst for security reasons it's advised in some circumstances to travel without one, in this case it was her choice. Of course I'm not suggesting that she deserved what happened, of course not, but surely if they wanted to dispose of her and had the tools to do so they'd have better methods then let's hope she's reckless and doesn't wear her seat belt.

'Greatly revered' or 'holy' according to the dictionary! (Our Father...hallowed by thy name... etc)
But not really appropriate in terms of royal monikers!

The woman who has been deceased for the past 25 years. So sodding what?

Alert everyone, according to this poster, the wearing of a blue dresse when announcing an engagement is forbidden...

Get over yourself

It's pretty obvious looking back at the post that the term hallowed title was a joke.

And Diana, bluntly, was a silly, irrational person with some dementedly woo beliefs, who made large numbers of remarkably poor decisions — not surprisingly, given her own deeply dysfunctional upbringing, lack of education, disastrously unwise marriage entered into very young, dysfunctional ILs and gilded cage. I mean, I wouldn’t see her paranoia as based on anything concrete.

Princess Diana said to several different people that she believed that Charles was planning a car crash for her.

Paul burrell , her butler, said she told him this and wrote a note about this to him.

Another even more credible account. One of her legal advisors says that she also told him that they were planning a car crash for her.

Oh, I do apologise
Thank you for pointing that out

The SUN leads with the headline "OUR NEW QUEEN" - grooming in full flood.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/21943773/buckingham-camilla-consort-title-king-charles-coronation-invite/

People want to discuss if the titles are right. Screaming about rules again and again and again like you have adds nothing. We've heard you. Many times
But people are arguing that Queen Consort is a title different to Queen Camilla and that calling her Queen Camilla is a change from the late Queen's statement of a year ago. Which it isn't. That's not a change of title and people claiming it is are just wrong. It's not a moral argument, it's just fact.

I'm anti-royal in general and think the whole thing should be abolished.

But I think people really need to get over the whole 'Diana the martyr' thing.

If Charles is King, Camilla is Queen. She's his wife.

Diana told several people that she believed that people were planning a car crash for her.
She told her butler Paul burrell this.

One even more credible account was this one. One of Diana's legal advisors said that Diana told him that someone was planning a car crash for her. This account is called the "Mishcon note" if you want to look it up.

On Oct. 30, 1995, Victor Mishcon, the personal legal representative to Princess Diana, attended a closed-door meeting with his most famous client and her personal secretary, Patrick Jephson. During the rendezvous, Diana told Mishcon that “reliable sources,” whom she would not disclose, had informed her that by April 1996, efforts would be made to either “get rid of her”—or injure her to the point where she would be deemed “unbalanced”—in a car accident via brake failure or other means.

Diana told several people that she believed the royal family were planning a car crash for her.

And then she did go on to die in a car crash. That makes me shudder

Yep.

I used to lean towards - don't give a shit either way.
Now i lean towards - actually wish we could get rid.

For all those saying ''It's the way it is, it's always been this way, like it or lump it'' - you're right, but i guess these two being our supposed King and Queen is just too much to swallow.

I don't not give a shit anymore i actively want them to fuck off.

We were told that she wasn't wearing her seatbelt. That doesn't mean that she wasn't wearing it. Question what you are told.

I don't know anyone who believes that.

A car crash is a rubbish way to kill someone! It's hardly guaranteed. If her car had mysteriously blown up with no chance of survival then sure, but a crash?

Can we not get over the whole Charles, Diana, Camila love triangle, because that's what this is really about. The king gets to choose his queen and her title, not the public.

"Diana was a silly irrational person".

Do you know there are several people that have said that , in order to rehabilitate Charles image, Charles's friends started a media campaign agains diana. The campaigns main aim was to make Diana look unstable, mentally ill and unbalanced.

It worked.

That is why you often see people on here now describing Diana as mentally unwell, as unhinged, irrational , unbalanced.

The media campaign by Charles friends to make Diana look like this, worked.

It was a quarter of a century ago. Let it go. The couple clearly love each other and the Diana/Charles marriage was a disaster waiting to happen. Sad for all concerned but people are human, even kings and queens. I'm sure Camilla would much rather be retired and pottering around with her grandchildren in her garden or having a g&t with friends, but she married for love so has to put up with all the pomp and ceremony.

I can’t believe people still believe there was some sort of plot to bump off (the paranoid and unstable) Diana.

It was a bloody masterpiece if there was one. I wonder how they managed to persuade that driver to get bladdered before driving the car at high speed? Maybe he told Diana not to bother with a seatbelt too 🤔

If Charles is king, Camilla is queen. As all the female consorts before her.

It hasn’t been changed. All Queens who are queen because they are married to the King are technically queen consort. It just means they aren’t the reining monarch.

I don’t believe in a monarchy full stop, so Camilla or no Camilla is no odds to me. If you’re going to have a monarchy, the whole point is you don’t get to choose who is King or Queen.

For my money, if you didn’t allow her as Queen, you wouldn’t want him as King - he was the one who cheated on Diana from the outset. Andrew B-P was well at it himself apparently so not sure he cared much.

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Why does anyone care if she's queen or queen consort? The king is the king and she's just his wife. It does not matter.

The RF are no different to a presidents First Lady/gentleman. Jacqueline Kenedy or Jill Biden weren't elected and they require securityfor life once their short reigns are over. Jill will represent as Queen of America equivalent at the Coronation in all but name. The same goes for the wife of the Irish president and so on.

We need someone to carry out that diplomatic role it may as well be this family we can all ridicule and say ahh as a baby is born, the media help hold them to account.

Mitchell and Webb prove the absurdity of this claim far better than anyone