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Taking step kids on holiday - AIBU?

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B0711 · 04/04/2023 21:18

My partner has a 8 year old girl from a previous relationship and we’ve just had a baby (currently 3 months), he’s my one and only (vasectomy pending).

Now, I really want to go on holiday just me, my partner and my baby. His ex has already had an issue with us when she THOUGHT we were going on holiday without her daughter and telling us that the daughter was extremely upset etc. We have no idea where the idea came from as we hadn’t even spoken or contemplated holidays at this point.

Anyways, since that conversation I have said to my partner that sometimes that may happen. I grew up with stepdads who had kids and they didn’t come on holiday with us so to me it’s normal. Plus what if we can’t afford to take both on holiday in the future? Does that mean my child then can’t have a holiday in case of upsetting the other child? Even though the other child has a well off mother so will be holidaying plenty.

She will come on some holidays with us for definite but my thoughts on this are;

I’m only going to have one maternity year, my baby is only going to be free (in terms of cost) to take on holiday for so long. We can’t afford to take the daughter away as well, it’s around an additional £500/£700 pound especially as we’ll have to do school holidays.

My partner agreed when I told him my thoughts but im sure he thinks I’ve forgotten about the conversation as he’s now constantly mentioning his daughter in our holiday discussions, has told his daughter that we’re trying to plan a summer holiday all together so now she is excited. Like WTF?

I’m not working with being on maternity so I’m on statutory pay, but the holiday would be coming out of MY savings.

I feel like such a bitch trying to push this conversation my way but I feel like I’m being reasonable.

I only get this one chance, it’s my money, I want a stress free holiday and entertaining an 8 year old who is bored all the time is not my idea of stress free.

I might just go on holiday on my own with our son at this point.

OP posts:
whumpthereitis · 18/04/2023 19:21

Bamboux · 18/04/2023 18:26

To be fair, a large number of people on that thread were really horrified by that statement. It does reveal your perspective quite emphatically.

@Tandora is right to say that you are, by your own account, not interested in your stepson's needs or feelings. Which is quite important context here.

I recall the comments being much more split than the poll would suggest.

As far as the ‘horror’ goes, there was about four of you that kept banging on about her perfectly reasonable opinion as to her role in her stepson’s life, an opinion that was also shared by plenty of others baffled as to why she would be held responsible.

fitzwilliamdarcy · 18/04/2023 19:21

@holaschicas It’s not remotely feminist to suggest that women are above criticism, especially when they’re making choices that involve children being treated badly. So no thanks, I shan’t.

thegrain · 18/04/2023 19:34

fitzwilliamdarcy · 18/04/2023 19:21

@holaschicas It’s not remotely feminist to suggest that women are above criticism, especially when they’re making choices that involve children being treated badly. So no thanks, I shan’t.

What's feminism got to do with it

fitzwilliamdarcy · 18/04/2023 19:35

thegrain · 18/04/2023 19:34

What's feminism got to do with it

“Stop criticising women” is feminist rhetoric. The sisterhood etc.

Comeonbarbiebrianharvey · 18/04/2023 19:39

You need two holidays, term time, last min cheap one, for your cheap one off mat leave one, if he doesnt want to go go with a friend or your mum?

Then he needs to pay for a caravan site holiday with kids entertainment, half term or summer holiday where both kids can bond, in summer when baby a bit bigger.

thegrain · 18/04/2023 19:48

fitzwilliamdarcy · 18/04/2023 19:35

“Stop criticising women” is feminist rhetoric. The sisterhood etc.

Oh right

Smallyellowbird · 18/04/2023 19:56

OP don't know if you're still reading this, some awful comments.

I think you should go with your partner and baby - totally different holiday than with an 8 year old, the age gap is really big. If you givebin on this you can end up that your child comes second, that you can't do things when step-daughter won't be there etc.

My son's Dad has a new family, with younger kids, and I do not expect my son to he included in everything they do - maybe a trip to Disney, but not a flaking on a beach with a baby.

And it is your money, you're not married, so look after your assets.

Mumwomansisterdaughter · 18/04/2023 20:00

Tandora · 18/04/2023 18:24

My point was that since your clearly ultimately have no interest in/ concern for your step son’s needs , it’s pretty arrogant / brazen of you to speak for them and their needs. It’s not credible to claim you know and understand people’s needs when you have made it clear you take no responsibility for them.

Ps you were in the minority - I believe the vote was 67-33 you were just a loud minority.

I think she is proving again how selfish as a step parent and partner she is . No wonder SP have a bad rep with so many people literally being so disconnected from what a family should be .

aSofaNearYou · 18/04/2023 20:12

I think she is proving again how selfish as a step parent and partner she is . No wonder SP have a bad rep with so many people literally being so disconnected from what a family should be .

Ok love. Tell that to my DSS who's absolutely fine and doesn't display any of the angst spoken about on here, who benefits from a family who all get to enjoy themselves.

Yousee · 18/04/2023 20:44

Mumwomansisterdaughter · 18/04/2023 20:00

I think she is proving again how selfish as a step parent and partner she is . No wonder SP have a bad rep with so many people literally being so disconnected from what a family should be .

There is no "what a family should be" that's going to fit all people, circumstances and relationships. What you mean is "this is horrendous that Sofa won'tmake her blended family conform to what I specifically believe a nuclear family ought to look like".

holaschicas · 18/04/2023 21:33

@fitzwilliamdarcy
Always the woman’s fault though, isn’t it?

You have zero experience of the situation so why lurk here…not even to give advice but just to criticise.

Would you tell people how to cope with twins when having none yourself, I doubt it.

Bamboux · 18/04/2023 21:41

whumpthereitis · 18/04/2023 19:21

I recall the comments being much more split than the poll would suggest.

As far as the ‘horror’ goes, there was about four of you that kept banging on about her perfectly reasonable opinion as to her role in her stepson’s life, an opinion that was also shared by plenty of others baffled as to why she would be held responsible.

I didn't count or note usernames. The vote was obviously heavily against the op on that thread. I'm not linking because I think it's against the rules here.

However, the point stands that that specific poster said unequivocally that she would prefer her children's older brother to go into the care system, rather than look after him herself along with her own children, if those were the only two options.

It does undermine any pretence to caring how he feels about any other, less extreme situation.

aSofaNearYou · 18/04/2023 21:50

However, the point stands that that specific poster said unequivocally that she would prefer her children's older brother to go into the care system, rather than look after him herself along with her own children, if those were the only two options.

Why are you acting like I was the only person to say that? Loads of people agreed.

It does undermine any pretence to caring how he feels about any other, less extreme situation.

No it doesn't, it's perfectly possible to care about something but have a limit on how far that will take you. It's not all or nothing.

holaschicas · 18/04/2023 22:57

@aSofaNearYou
agreed, while would adopt DSD, I can understand why others wouldn’t.

No it doesn't, it's perfectly possible to care about something but have a limit on how far that will take you. It's not all or nothing.

people care about the planet but not enough to turn the heating off or give up cars or foreign holidays. @Bamboux YABU

fitzwilliamdarcy · 18/04/2023 23:32

Always the woman’s fault though, isn’t it?

I mean, where a woman wants to be with a man who acts like he doesn’t already have children, but chooses a man with children… yes it’s her fault. Who else’s fault would it be? This place is bizarre sometimes.

holaschicas · 18/04/2023 23:35

@fitzwilliamdarcy
But that isn’t what’s happening in this scenario. You’re right, this place is bizarre

TheKnower99 · 19/04/2023 00:31

Liorae · 18/04/2023 08:45

Shouldn't sooner have been before he decided to have a child with the OP? He seems to have a history of having children without thinking things through. But blame OP, rather than the man.

I'm not defending the husband, but that was not what OP asked. Moreover, we don't know enough about them to make the claim he has a history like that. Stop making your own problems in your head.

TheKnower99 · 19/04/2023 00:32

TheRealShatParp · 18/04/2023 09:17

what makes you think that @TheKnower99 is blaming the OP over her partner? This thread isn’t about who is to blame for everything, it’s about whether we think she’s unreasonable to not want to take her step daughter on holiday. I agree that the OP is being unreasonable. That poor step daughter is being side lined. I suspect that if money wasn’t an issue then she would still not want her step daughter there. That’s what I get from the tone of the OP.

Yes, thank you very much @TheRealShatParp, very eloquently put.

TheKnower99 · 19/04/2023 00:40

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whumpthereitis · 19/04/2023 00:41

Bamboux · 18/04/2023 21:41

I didn't count or note usernames. The vote was obviously heavily against the op on that thread. I'm not linking because I think it's against the rules here.

However, the point stands that that specific poster said unequivocally that she would prefer her children's older brother to go into the care system, rather than look after him herself along with her own children, if those were the only two options.

It does undermine any pretence to caring how he feels about any other, less extreme situation.

Who really gives a fuck what the vote was? It’s a mumsnet poll, hardly a binding referendum, and hardly worth bringing up in this thread except to once again share how shocked you are 🥴

Yes, she did. So did others. It’s perfectly possible to care for someone yet have a limit as to what you’re willing to do for them. Entirely normal, in fact.

holaschicas · 19/04/2023 02:40

@TheKnower99
Someone’s feeling sensitive…this has nothing to do with my parenting or my husk of a cranium. Being nasty and making personal comments doesn’t validate your argument.

The definition of neglect is not being cared for, there’s nothing to suggest DSD is not being cared for.

Tandora · 19/04/2023 08:37

whumpthereitis · 18/04/2023 19:21

I recall the comments being much more split than the poll would suggest.

As far as the ‘horror’ goes, there was about four of you that kept banging on about her perfectly reasonable opinion as to her role in her stepson’s life, an opinion that was also shared by plenty of others baffled as to why she would be held responsible.

🤣

Tandora · 19/04/2023 08:40

fitzwilliamdarcy · 18/04/2023 23:32

Always the woman’s fault though, isn’t it?

I mean, where a woman wants to be with a man who acts like he doesn’t already have children, but chooses a man with children… yes it’s her fault. Who else’s fault would it be? This place is bizarre sometimes.

Well actually it’s mostly the man’s fault. Choose better for your kids. Unfortunately the world is full of men who put their sex life ahead of their kids.

Tandora · 19/04/2023 08:52

whumpthereitis · 19/04/2023 00:41

Who really gives a fuck what the vote was? It’s a mumsnet poll, hardly a binding referendum, and hardly worth bringing up in this thread except to once again share how shocked you are 🥴

Yes, she did. So did others. It’s perfectly possible to care for someone yet have a limit as to what you’re willing to do for them. Entirely normal, in fact.

For the last time, the reason I raised it , was sofa declared “everyone’s needs are being met”. I think it’s laughable that she would assume to speak for her stepsons interests when she has made it perfectly clear that she holds herself no more responsible for his needs than the average stranger on the street. (the latter being the reason she repeatedly gave for why she saw no moral imperative for her to concern herself with what might happen to her stepson in the event of his parents death, regardless of circumstances).

Annnywayyy. Both you and asofa share the same fundamentalist position on step parenting which seems to be that you need not concern yourself at all with the interests or wellbeing of your step children , if you chose not to- that being entirely the prerogative of their father (your partner). So at least own it. rather than declaring“everyone’s needs are being met” , more honest would be “I assume everyone’s needs are being met, but I don’t really concern myself either way”.

holaschicas · 19/04/2023 08:54

@Tandora
You’re twisting things, not sure if it’s to be inflammatory or to prove a point but you’re not being accurate as to what was said. You’re projecting your own feelings into the matter.

Are you a step mum?

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