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Philip Schofield: As far as I am concerned, I no longer have a brother."

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DancingWithMashedPotato · 03/04/2023 17:38

Philip Schofield's brother had now been convicted of sexual abuse with a young boy over a 3 yr period. Horrendous crime. Philip Schofield has now stated "As far as I am concerned, I no longer have a brother.""

Now, it's completely up to Philip how he responds to his brother in what must be a v v stressful time. I cast no judgement whatsoever, and his life in the public eye adds so many new dimensions for him that must be hard to handle.

However, his comments about no longer having a brother really cut deep and made me wonder how I'd react

I adore my siblings and I think (though obviously things might be different if it actually happened) that I couldn't bring myself to disown or abandon my brother's no matter what they did. I can imagine some very limited events which might lead to me not speaking to them for a bit, perhaps a v long time. But I think by and large, no matter what they did, however bad, while there are some things I couldn't forgive and maybe could never understand, I don't think I could disown them. AIBU?

What are your views? Are there some things you absolutely would disown your family for? Are there some generally agreed limits for what a person can tolerate from a family member before they are disowned. Is child abuse the line? Murder?

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turnthetoiletpaperroundproperly · 03/04/2023 18:58

PS will save brand PS at any cost. I think his brother is a stain on society though,But dear understanding Phil wouldnt have disowned him had this been allowed to be hushed up.

Inkpotlover · 03/04/2023 19:00

Aaaaandbreathe · 03/04/2023 18:52

Being found not guilty isn't the same as being innocent.

All it means is there hasn't been enough evidence to convict which is sadly common in sexual offence cases.

Anyway, his brother already told him about it so the court case shouldn't have mattered.

Like it or not, in legal terms being found not guilty does mean you're innocent.

mathanxiety · 03/04/2023 19:02

Yes, a pedophile relative would be dead to me.

Two of the women I admire most in this world cut off her own father's, one at a young age (late teens), one later in life (early 30s, married with children) when their crimes were revealed.

AxolotlOnions · 03/04/2023 19:02

I'd happily disown but brothers now and they're not paedophiles. Not everyone loves their family, mine suck.

TakingMilesFromInches · 03/04/2023 19:02

Inkpotlover · 03/04/2023 18:58

In the eyes of the law it is.

It means nothing more than they were found not guilty. A close friend of mine works in the police force and says that if a man is charged with rape, he’s almost certainly done it. And then there’s the ones that are not charged, he says most of them are very likely guilty too.

SimplyAverage · 03/04/2023 19:02

Jesus had good advice for these people.

They are psychopaths and don't get better.

They should be disowned.

Shame on ITV.

SimplyAverage · 03/04/2023 19:03

Leavingtoday · 03/04/2023 18:33

Someone I know slept with school girls as a teacher. Convicted and sent to prison. His sister and family all stood by him. They were teachers too. I still cannot believe it to this day.

All likely psychopaths.

HappyMe6 · 03/04/2023 19:03

Totally Agree with ColelawSandwich

dayswithaY · 03/04/2023 19:04

How much longer can Smug Phil cling on to This Morning? I’m surprised Holly’s advisers haven’t told her to bail out quick.

TakingMilesFromInches · 03/04/2023 19:04

Inkpotlover · 03/04/2023 19:00

Like it or not, in legal terms being found not guilty does mean you're innocent.

I don’t keep people in my life who have low morals or lack any.

CrotchetyCrocheting · 03/04/2023 19:04

We had this situation in our family. Not a sibling but a close family member. I haven't spoken to him since the first allegation came out and never will again. Whatever happens to him won't be bad enough as far as I'm concerned.

Mangolist · 03/04/2023 19:04

I loathe my sister (ex sister). She treated my mother like shit for 7 years, thought of us as below her, and I haven't spoken to her for 6 years.

I genuinely would shrug if she died. I know that sounds awful and probably is, but there are some things that just cannot be forgiven

She's managed to snare her millionaire, though - good luck to her. Sadly, she will never have a relationship with her neices and nephew and beautiful great nephews and neice.
I hope the behaviour was worth it.

Godwhatswrongwithme · 03/04/2023 19:04

How can Holly even be friends with him?? 🤷🏻‍♀️It’s utterly bizarre, where are everyone’s morals

RestingRulers · 03/04/2023 19:04

I'm surprised that this thread is still here. There are a lot of posters calling PS a peadaphile . Is that allowed? Isn't it defamation or something......

TakingMilesFromInches · 03/04/2023 19:05

SimplyAverage · 03/04/2023 19:02

Jesus had good advice for these people.

They are psychopaths and don't get better.

They should be disowned.

Shame on ITV.

It’s bigger than ITV though, that’s the problem.

Aaaaandbreathe · 03/04/2023 19:05

Inkpotlover · 03/04/2023 18:58

In the eyes of the law it is.

Not in the eyes of the victim who has been unable to prove the abuse because these things generally happen without witnesses...but as long as it's ok in the eyes of the law?

He admitted it before court ffs. I have seen first hand the devastation of not having enough evidence causes the victim in a work capacity. The first thing I say is it is not about believing innocence - it is just there isn't enough evidence.

JudgeRudy · 03/04/2023 19:06

Different people have different things they'd be able to 'see passed'. Some people might view murder as the ultimate crime, others child abuse. Some might be appalled at revenge point, others at drink driving.
For me the level of personal ownership and shame, regret etc would play a part in if I could stay connected to a person.
How close you are also plays a part but not in an obvious way eg I have work colleagues who I believe are a bit racist/sexist. I also had a friend who was a neglectful mum. The first I enjoyed their company and it didn't affect my relationship, the second, ultimately it did coz we were close. We have no idea how close PS and his brother were. I am not especially close to my sister.
If either of my children were to commit a heinous crime I think if I believed they were sorry I would visit them in prison and still love them.

Godwhatswrongwithme · 03/04/2023 19:06

@TakingMilesFromInches What do you mean?

BessieSurtees · 03/04/2023 19:06

@JustDanceAddict so because the boy was 16 it was ok then? When the abuser was 50 years old. Do you have a 16 year old child would you be ok with this because they are of a legal age?

Would you believe the 16 year old was making an informed decision after being groomed for a number of years?

TakingMilesFromInches · 03/04/2023 19:08

Godwhatswrongwithme · 03/04/2023 19:04

How can Holly even be friends with him?? 🤷🏻‍♀️It’s utterly bizarre, where are everyone’s morals

Who cares? He’s scum. If no one reports, it’ll stay. And why would anyone want to protect him? Anyone that doesn’t want this talked about... well I’d be very suspicious of them.

Personyouneedisnannymcphee · 03/04/2023 19:08

Someone who was my friend, we socialised for about 12 hours every week was convicted and sent to prison for being a pedo. Never spoke again and don’t want to.

JudgeRudy · 03/04/2023 19:08

SimplyAverage · 03/04/2023 19:03

All likely psychopaths.

All psychopaths? Er right OK

turnthetoiletpaperroundproperly · 03/04/2023 19:09

Next stop on this journey brother gets jailed,tops himself,queue PS documentary on suicide in prison followed by a book deal...I can see it coming.

SparkleEgg · 03/04/2023 19:11

turnthetoiletpaperroundproperly · 03/04/2023 19:09

Next stop on this journey brother gets jailed,tops himself,queue PS documentary on suicide in prison followed by a book deal...I can see it coming.

This

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 03/04/2023 19:12

If you can honestly say you would sit there with someone whose a pedo, there's something massively wrong with you.

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