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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think the school shouldn’t be ignoring this?

279 replies

MachboosRubyanAnne · 30/03/2023 15:13

At my DD’s primary school, where there are a lot of children of teachers who attend - There was a mum’s night out last weekend. There, one of the teachers was making unkind comments about some of the children. Including that a couple were spoiled brats, she also speculated that ‘something is wrong’ with a particular child and also slagged off various parents. The people who attended the night out have complained to the headteacher as they felt this teacher, though very drunk, clearly crossed a line.

The school have done nothing but apologised on her behalf.

AIBU to think that more should be done and that they should be utterly outraged at this having happened?

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MachboosRubyanAnne · 30/03/2023 20:49

flutterbyebaby · 30/03/2023 20:43

I'm sure they'd take longer than 3 days to admit it all

I’m not even sure what you’re getting at but you sound utterly ridiculous. In my profession I’ve said sorry plenty of times before an investigation has taken place - it’s common courtesy when you’re dealing with a pissed off person.

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Pubesofsoberness · 30/03/2023 20:49

MachboosRubyanAnne · 30/03/2023 20:47

IKR!

There are SO many kids who are not in need of LS but also not flying, just stuck in the middle of the road. Apparently they deserve to be spoken about though to random people they don’t know

Just the usual goady posters trying to get the thread taken down with the troll hunting.

I was beginning to think I'd lost a day and it was actually Friday night

flutterbyebaby · 30/03/2023 20:49

Look up complaints procedures next time

MachboosRubyanAnne · 30/03/2023 20:49

Hotvimto3 · 30/03/2023 20:44

You've answered your own question... money does talk

You obviously think it does.

However she is a paid yea her so surely that means she should be professional Al and not call kids names to other parents?

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MachboosRubyanAnne · 30/03/2023 20:51

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😂😂
Oh no, someone on MN thinks I’m a troll <cries into pillow>

Oh wait I don’t care.

Still waiting to hear where you ‘caught me out’. Maybe if you were cleverer you’d have given me an answer by now.

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flutterbyebaby · 30/03/2023 20:51

What happens when you complain about a teacher?

The chair of governors will investigate your complaint. At the end of the investigation, you may be invited to a meeting to get feedback or you will receive a full written response by post. You should receive a reply within 15 school days.

It doesn't say the head teacher comes out and apologises on behalf of the teacher!

MachboosRubyanAnne · 30/03/2023 20:51

Hotvimto3 · 30/03/2023 20:47

Why do you think. Jesus wept

I don’t know why you think it’s ok for teachers to stop being caring towards children after 3pm - you’ll have to explain it to me.

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MachboosRubyanAnne · 30/03/2023 20:53

flutterbyebaby · 30/03/2023 20:49

Look up complaints procedures next time

What makes you think I didn’t

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MachboosRubyanAnne · 30/03/2023 20:54

flutterbyebaby · 30/03/2023 20:51

What happens when you complain about a teacher?

The chair of governors will investigate your complaint. At the end of the investigation, you may be invited to a meeting to get feedback or you will receive a full written response by post. You should receive a reply within 15 school days.

It doesn't say the head teacher comes out and apologises on behalf of the teacher!

Not sure where you have seen that put it is a different process in my DC’s school.

But yeah your kid’s school doesn’t do it that way so it can’t be true 😂

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flutterbyebaby · 30/03/2023 20:54

MachboosRubyanAnne · 30/03/2023 20:53

What makes you think I didn’t

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😈

Pubesofsoberness · 30/03/2023 20:54

Head teachers quite often try and smooth things over with parents while investigations are on going , it's part of the job they don't want things escalating because parents think they are being ignored

MachboosRubyanAnne · 30/03/2023 20:55

flutterbyebaby · 30/03/2023 20:54

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😈

Are you OK?

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flutterbyebaby · 30/03/2023 20:58

MachboosRubyanAnne · 30/03/2023 20:55

Are you OK?

Are you?

flutterbyebaby · 30/03/2023 20:58

Pubesofsoberness · 30/03/2023 20:54

Head teachers quite often try and smooth things over with parents while investigations are on going , it's part of the job they don't want things escalating because parents think they are being ignored

I doubt they'd use the teachers name though

Eyerollcentral · 30/03/2023 20:59

MachboosRubyanAnne · 30/03/2023 20:44

For the millionth time - my DC, apparently, is fine and needs no support.

And she hasn’t told me at all - she made an ambiguous statement to other parents. How can you think what she did isn’t egregious?!

Yes but for the millionth time there’s now a teacher saying she DOES. You USE that to your advantage and say I want something done because she clearly does think in her professional opinion that something isn’t right. The school is either left w having to say well her professional opinion is wrong or doing something so that you do not take it further. That’s your card to play here not I want a face to face apology which is going to achieve nothing more than giving you a sense of moral superiority. It certainly won’t help your child will it?
I don’t think what she said was that bad. I think it was foolish and indiscreet but I don’t think calling a child a spoilt brat is that bad in the scheme of things. I think saying there is something ‘wrong’ with your child is poor phrasing, I don’t think it’s nasty. You suspect yourself your child has additional needs. ‘Wrong’ is obviously not the right word.

Pubesofsoberness · 30/03/2023 21:00

flutterbyebaby · 30/03/2023 20:58

I doubt they'd use the teachers name though

Why would they not use the teachers name ? It's not like the op and all the other parents who complained about it don't know the teachers name

echt · 30/03/2023 21:03

Pubesofsoberness · 30/03/2023 21:00

Why would they not use the teachers name ? It's not like the op and all the other parents who complained about it don't know the teachers name

Schools simply don't do this, particularly when matters are not settled.

MachboosRubyanAnne · 30/03/2023 21:03

flutterbyebaby · 30/03/2023 20:58

Are you?

Yes I’m just trying to figure out why you’re posting weird things rather than actual responses.

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Nowhereelsetogo90 · 30/03/2023 21:05

She was ridiculously stupid to say this to other parents. I’m a teacher and there are definitely children I think these things about because I’m not a saint and some kids are bloody awful. Not their fault IMO, usually a parenting issue, but doesn’t make the job any easier! However, these thoughts are for the staff room or a rant to DH on way home, not a night out when school parents are there.

She won’t lose her job though, you’re on a hiding to nothing there.

MachboosRubyanAnne · 30/03/2023 21:06

Eyerollcentral · 30/03/2023 20:59

Yes but for the millionth time there’s now a teacher saying she DOES. You USE that to your advantage and say I want something done because she clearly does think in her professional opinion that something isn’t right. The school is either left w having to say well her professional opinion is wrong or doing something so that you do not take it further. That’s your card to play here not I want a face to face apology which is going to achieve nothing more than giving you a sense of moral superiority. It certainly won’t help your child will it?
I don’t think what she said was that bad. I think it was foolish and indiscreet but I don’t think calling a child a spoilt brat is that bad in the scheme of things. I think saying there is something ‘wrong’ with your child is poor phrasing, I don’t think it’s nasty. You suspect yourself your child has additional needs. ‘Wrong’ is obviously not the right word.

What do you actually expect me to do when they’ve said my DC is fine - force them to give LS?

An apology won’t help my child but yes it will make me feel better, I’m not one of these people who only thinks my child’s feelings are important. It’s not a superior complex - when someone insults you an apology is a basic expectation.

Im gobsmacked you think it’s not that bad for a teacher to call a child a spoilt brat to a captive audience who knows that child. Sorry you have such low standards of other humans. Must be awful to be that way.

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MachboosRubyanAnne · 30/03/2023 21:06

echt · 30/03/2023 21:03

Schools simply don't do this, particularly when matters are not settled.

Oh come on they aren’t going to say in response to a complaint “Apologies on behalf of a teacher we can’t name” 🤣

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Pubesofsoberness · 30/03/2023 21:07

MachboosRubyanAnne · 30/03/2023 21:06

What do you actually expect me to do when they’ve said my DC is fine - force them to give LS?

An apology won’t help my child but yes it will make me feel better, I’m not one of these people who only thinks my child’s feelings are important. It’s not a superior complex - when someone insults you an apology is a basic expectation.

Im gobsmacked you think it’s not that bad for a teacher to call a child a spoilt brat to a captive audience who knows that child. Sorry you have such low standards of other humans. Must be awful to be that way.

I wouldn't even bother op, like a teacher doesn't know that saying there's something wrong with that child is the wrong wording

AuntMarch · 30/03/2023 21:07

ReadersD1gest · 30/03/2023 15:21

Why do you invite teachers on the Mum's night out? It kind of crosses boundaries. She really shouldn't have gone especially if she was going to make a tit of herself

My son attends the setting I work at. If I were invited on a parent night out, I would either decline, or stay sober.

As the teacher is also a parent I think it was nice to include her, but she made very poor decisions that should have consequences (and probably will).

hotdiggetydog · 30/03/2023 21:09

ReadersD1gest · 30/03/2023 15:21

Why do you invite teachers on the Mum's night out? It kind of crosses boundaries. She really shouldn't have gone especially if she was going to make a tit of herself

Well done for victim blaming and missing the point

Eyerollcentral · 30/03/2023 21:09

MachboosRubyanAnne · 30/03/2023 21:06

What do you actually expect me to do when they’ve said my DC is fine - force them to give LS?

An apology won’t help my child but yes it will make me feel better, I’m not one of these people who only thinks my child’s feelings are important. It’s not a superior complex - when someone insults you an apology is a basic expectation.

Im gobsmacked you think it’s not that bad for a teacher to call a child a spoilt brat to a captive audience who knows that child. Sorry you have such low standards of other humans. Must be awful to be that way.

I said I don’t think it’s THAT bad. Some children are spoilt brats and everyone knows it. I bet more than one person agreed with her. Nuance is not your strong point.
I didn’t say it’s a superiority complex, I said it would give you a sense of moral superiority which from what you have since said is correct.
Has your daughter been properly assessed???? If not then by going back to the school and saying the teacher does think there is something amiss and on that basis I want her assessed properly may be persuasive if anything just to get you to back down. But you won’t do it because all you want is for them to burn the witch