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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think the school shouldn’t be ignoring this?

279 replies

MachboosRubyanAnne · 30/03/2023 15:13

At my DD’s primary school, where there are a lot of children of teachers who attend - There was a mum’s night out last weekend. There, one of the teachers was making unkind comments about some of the children. Including that a couple were spoiled brats, she also speculated that ‘something is wrong’ with a particular child and also slagged off various parents. The people who attended the night out have complained to the headteacher as they felt this teacher, though very drunk, clearly crossed a line.

The school have done nothing but apologised on her behalf.

AIBU to think that more should be done and that they should be utterly outraged at this having happened?

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Eyerollcentral · 30/03/2023 17:25

MachboosRubyanAnne · 30/03/2023 15:59

I would like a face to face apology TBH (my child was included in her insults, I wasn’t there at this point but I believe the person who told me what she said)

Oh fgs get a grip. She was indiscreet, she has been told off, the school has apologised. The teacher is still going to have her opinion about the children she teaches, she is allowed to have those opinions. Do you really think all teachers think every child is a wonderful cherub? She shouldn’t have said it but maybe she has a point. I’d dwell on that more than anything else tbh. Do you not form opinions on people you work with? God help teachers, parents are absolutely ridiculous.

MelchiorsMistress · 30/03/2023 17:28

The head teacher probably is outraged about the whole thing, but they’re not going to give you all the details of how they handle it, so YABU. You can’t judge wether they’re ignoring it or what they’re doing when that’s not information that you have, or have any right to.

Maybe you should have said ‘AIBU to want an apology from my child’s teacher because of something that someone else told me?’

You might think you can entirely trust the person or people who have told you what the teacher said, but it’s highly unlikely that she was having an isolated rant to herself about random children. She was in an inappropriate conversation and she has far more responsibility than other parents there, but she wasn’t having that conversation alone.

Jennybeans401 · 30/03/2023 17:34

Sadly not all teachers are as professional as they should be. Noyt the same but we saw some of this in our old school.

Dd was bullied by a child at the school for a long time and the day after I'd met their class teacher about this thd teacher turned up at the bully's birthday party.

Marchforward · 30/03/2023 17:37

I imagine she will be faced with a disciplinary procedure but the school won’t make those details public.

ChangedmynameagainforChristmas · 30/03/2023 17:38

She was probably speaking the truth

Eyerollcentral · 30/03/2023 17:38

ChangedmynameagainforChristmas · 30/03/2023 17:38

She was probably speaking the truth

Highly likely

NorthStarRising · 30/03/2023 17:42

She’s a unprofessional idiot, and she needs to learn the rules fast or she’ll not survive long.
Yes, as teachers we’ve all known children who were a PITA, or who were hard to like, but that should just make you consider if your conduct as a teacher is still fair. That you apply rules and expectations equally, untainted by dislike of an individual.
And to actually express negative opinions on a child out loud is the height of folly. I’ve been on social events with parents, and I’ve enjoyed them whilst seeing them as still part of my work environment.

switswoo81 · 30/03/2023 17:47

My children go to my school (I'm actually the deputy principal and teacher) and I have accepted that this means I won't have the same interactions with school mum's. I'm not on any WhatsApp groups and never ever mention school if my children are on playdates or at parties. I don't have the same surname as them so some parents aren't even aware of the connection. I think the parents in my children's class appreciate this as they know I would never be indiscreet.
Op yanbu, I don't think you'll get an apology but I would imagine that there is a lot going on behind the scenes.

Hotvimto3 · 30/03/2023 17:56

Tbf i fully support it. She prob has to deal with some awful children. Ive met them at my childrens school and the pathetic parents that do f all to discipline them
Teachers need paying far more than they do and a medal for putting up with the little shits. Leave her alone she probably spoke the truth bless her

Saschka · 30/03/2023 17:56

ChangedmynameagainforChristmas · 30/03/2023 17:38

She was probably speaking the truth

Still shouldn’t be saying it to other parents though, should she?

PicaK · 30/03/2023 18:01

It's now a HR issue. The school has apologised. They are dealing with it.

You are not entitled to a this is what we are doing update

x2boys · 30/03/2023 18:08

Hotvimto3 · 30/03/2023 17:56

Tbf i fully support it. She prob has to deal with some awful children. Ive met them at my childrens school and the pathetic parents that do f all to discipline them
Teachers need paying far more than they do and a medal for putting up with the little shits. Leave her alone she probably spoke the truth bless her

As a teacher though it's very unprofessional to slag off a child no matter how awful.they might be .

NoTouch · 30/03/2023 18:13

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 30/03/2023 16:43

Well, that’s another one lost. Next week on Mumsnet ‘ why are there no full time teachers for my precious child’.

If she hasn't got the brain cells to realise slagging of the children of the parents she is/was actually on a night out with isn't very clever then I doubt she will be a huge loss to the profession.

Of course she deserves a slap on the wrist and if similar behaviour is repeated a more formal warning. OP expecting a face to face apology as well is OTT.

eatdrinkandbemerry · 30/03/2023 18:18

They will apologise but the teacher will have been disciplined.
They are not going to share what the disciplinary was with parents that's for sure.

MachboosRubyanAnne · 30/03/2023 18:28

Eyerollcentral · 30/03/2023 17:25

Oh fgs get a grip. She was indiscreet, she has been told off, the school has apologised. The teacher is still going to have her opinion about the children she teaches, she is allowed to have those opinions. Do you really think all teachers think every child is a wonderful cherub? She shouldn’t have said it but maybe she has a point. I’d dwell on that more than anything else tbh. Do you not form opinions on people you work with? God help teachers, parents are absolutely ridiculous.

I fully expect someone who teachers my child not to tell other parents ‘there’s something wrong with that kid’ regarding my child.

Are you saying you’d be fine with a teacher saying that about your kids @Eyerollcentral?

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EllaPaella · 30/03/2023 18:29

One of my close friends happens to be a teacher in my kids school. I can't see why she shouldn't be allowed to socialise with me....
We never talk about any of the kids or anything to do with school though, she's far too professional.

I'm sure the school are acting on it, either way said teacher will certainly know by now that people on the night out have reported her behaviour so doubtful she will ever be socialising with that group again. It's unlikely the school would tell you the exact action they have taken.

MachboosRubyanAnne · 30/03/2023 18:29

Eyerollcentral · 30/03/2023 17:25

Oh fgs get a grip. She was indiscreet, she has been told off, the school has apologised. The teacher is still going to have her opinion about the children she teaches, she is allowed to have those opinions. Do you really think all teachers think every child is a wonderful cherub? She shouldn’t have said it but maybe she has a point. I’d dwell on that more than anything else tbh. Do you not form opinions on people you work with? God help teachers, parents are absolutely ridiculous.

I certainly wouldn’t slagging off service users to other service users in my role

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LoveQuinnOhDearyMe · 30/03/2023 18:29

Agree with others, this likely won’t be being ignored behind the scenes, I’m sure she is facing the full consequences behind closed doors. I doubt it would be a sackable offence but don’t believe the school will have just brushed it off.

MachboosRubyanAnne · 30/03/2023 18:30

ChangedmynameagainforChristmas · 30/03/2023 17:38

She was probably speaking the truth

She wasn’t. There is nothing ‘wrong’ with my child.

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MachboosRubyanAnne · 30/03/2023 18:30

Eyerollcentral · 30/03/2023 17:38

Highly likely

So it’s ok to express that to other parents is it?

Im sure you’d be fine with that

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alyceflowers · 30/03/2023 18:31

I expect there are disciplinary procedures going on behind the scenes that parents won't be informed about.

If you want an apology from the teacher though, email the Head and request it.

MachboosRubyanAnne · 30/03/2023 18:31

Hotvimto3 · 30/03/2023 17:56

Tbf i fully support it. She prob has to deal with some awful children. Ive met them at my childrens school and the pathetic parents that do f all to discipline them
Teachers need paying far more than they do and a medal for putting up with the little shits. Leave her alone she probably spoke the truth bless her

You support teachers calling children nasty names to other parents?

Course you do

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MachboosRubyanAnne · 30/03/2023 18:34

NoTouch · 30/03/2023 18:13

If she hasn't got the brain cells to realise slagging of the children of the parents she is/was actually on a night out with isn't very clever then I doubt she will be a huge loss to the profession.

Of course she deserves a slap on the wrist and if similar behaviour is repeated a more formal warning. OP expecting a face to face apology as well is OTT.

Yes I do expect someone who teaches my children and said something awful about my DC to apologise.

For context - my DC is quite behind their peers in terms of academia and has had some struggles this year. No one has ever once raised that there may be ‘something wrong’ with them.

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Eyerollcentral · 30/03/2023 18:34

MachboosRubyanAnne · 30/03/2023 18:28

I fully expect someone who teachers my child not to tell other parents ‘there’s something wrong with that kid’ regarding my child.

Are you saying you’d be fine with a teacher saying that about your kids @Eyerollcentral?

You have had an apology though? No one would like to hear it. What’s she basing that on? Do you have any idea? As I say she has been foolish and indiscreet but I don’t think the woman should be hung, drawn and quartered over it. You are annoyed she thinks that about your child, the fact she said it is by the by.

anon90210 · 30/03/2023 18:35

Hotvimto3 · 30/03/2023 17:56

Tbf i fully support it. She prob has to deal with some awful children. Ive met them at my childrens school and the pathetic parents that do f all to discipline them
Teachers need paying far more than they do and a medal for putting up with the little shits. Leave her alone she probably spoke the truth bless her

Are you the teacher op is referring to?