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To ask you to tell me how I should split childcare with DH! We can't agree!!!

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Questionnn · 27/03/2023 12:57

DH and I are in disagreement over a fair way to divide child caring responsibilities between us, so would like to ask you wise MNs how you would divide it if this was in your household?

Dh has a 'big job' and I have just returned from mat leave to a PT role, previously worked FT.

Dh and I split weekends so each gets a day - one of us Saturday and one of us Sunday. On 'our day' at weekend, we are not responsible for the baby eg feeds, nappy changes etc and have the opportunity of a lay in etc.

On Dhs 'day' he chooses to get up early to go to a hobby he could do at a different time but likes to miss the traffic so leaves house at 7.30am. I don't have any hobbies so on my 'day' choose a lay in or to leave house early with him to take baby out for the morning so we are back in time for baby's lunch and nap. I will also do a bit of housework and cook dinner.

Can you tell me who you think should do

  1. bath and bedtime
  2. night time wakings
  3. sorting baby in the morning

for each day...

Monday- DH works from home 9-6. I am at home all day with baby.

Tuesday and Wednesday - DH is at work, leaves for train 6.20am and gets back 7pm. He doesn't see baby at all.
I get baby up and sort us both, do nursery drop before going to work, then collect baby. One week I have short shifts so have about 2 hours to myself to do housework etc each day, one week I work all day. I do bath and bedtime.

Thursday - DH is at work, leaves for train 6.20am and gets back 7pm. He doesn't see baby at all. I am at home all day with baby, do bath and bedtime.

Friday - DH works from home 8-5/9-6. DH drops baby to nursery for 8am, comes home and picks baby up from nursery after he finishes wfh. I have to leave at 8am for work and get home around baby's bath and bedtime.

Weekends we each get a day off.

OP posts:
sevenbyseven · 27/03/2023 13:54

This set-up wouldn't have worked for me at all, and sounds a bit unusual. For us, weekends are family time when both parents look after the baby / kids. Obviously if you find a different set-up that works for you, that's fine, but I'm not sure this really is working.

Tarantellah · 27/03/2023 13:56

sevenbyseven · 27/03/2023 13:54

This set-up wouldn't have worked for me at all, and sounds a bit unusual. For us, weekends are family time when both parents look after the baby / kids. Obviously if you find a different set-up that works for you, that's fine, but I'm not sure this really is working.

DH and I always took the approach that there’s no point in us both being miserable and tired. If we take turns looking after the baby separately then we both get a rest. If we look after the baby together then nobody gets a rest.

ktitten · 27/03/2023 13:57

givemushypeasachance · 27/03/2023 13:11

So are you asking who should be doing those things every day?

You've said your husband works away all day and never even sees the baby Tue/Wed/Thu so he's ruled out on those days - except possibly for overnight waking duty. And according to your weekend splitting system are you saying when it's "your day" you have zero baby responsibilities, so Sat and Sun are already split up?

If so, you would just be asking who should do what on Monday and Friday. And Monday you're home and he's WFH, so more on you I'd imagine but he could contribute a bit. And Friday he's WFH and you're out working, so shared but more emphasis on him.

Maybe I've not understood correctly though. Is your weekend splitting system not as strict as it initially sounded?

If I had to choose this seems the most sensible tbh but the whole thing seems kinda bonkers to me.

I mean just as an example - Monday is your day bc you've been at home all day while he's working but what if he's been sat in meetings all day while you've had a shit day (baby teething or something idk) you'd think in a marriage you'd both just work it out as you go so everyone feels supported and nobody feels hard done by. I can't imagine going through life raising a family like this...

GiltEdges · 27/03/2023 13:58

Tarantellah · 27/03/2023 13:54

On the days you don’t work, you should look after the baby during the day. On the days you do work, the baby goes to nursery. All mornings and evenings and weekends should be split 50/50.

And for the posters asking why things need to be so rigid, it’s probably because the DH is a lazy twat who doesn’t do his share in a more natural arrangement. The only way for mum to have her fair share of rest and not end up doing everything is to be firm about what days and times are Dad’s responsibility.

And if you're right, what exactly would be the point in staying in a relationship with such a useless man? Maybe some of us can't imagine doing so, hence the question.

AnnaTortoiseshell · 27/03/2023 13:59

It kind of sounds like neither of you really like being parents? Don’t you just muddle along together? Why does it need to be so rigid? I’m wondering if he is shirking his responsibilities and so you are trying to even things up with more structure. But, I couldn’t just do nothing for my child all day on principle. How do you think that would affect him/her?

Tarantellah · 27/03/2023 14:10

GiltEdges · 27/03/2023 13:58

And if you're right, what exactly would be the point in staying in a relationship with such a useless man? Maybe some of us can't imagine doing so, hence the question.

Because often you’re worse off by leaving! At least if you stay you get the benefit of his full wages, plus he does at least some childcare on a regular basis, and you have the freedom to pop out and leave the kids with him. Whereas if you leave he’ll only have the kids every other weekend, and will only pay maintenance.

BoredZelda · 27/03/2023 14:11

And if you're right, what exactly would be the point in staying in a relationship with such a useless man?

I'm not sure I'd jump to LTB, but there definitely needs to be a serious conversation about there being two parents in the home.

Childcare isn't a chore to be divvied up like the bathroom cleaning, it's about two adults seeing the wants and needs of their child and taking care of them. If someone has to have a rota of when to bathe their child, they aren't likely to step in and do the non necessary (but still important) socialisation, the reading, the playing, going for a walk. If one of the parents in that family isn't doing that, then yes, maybe the relationship is ultimately doomed and getting out before resentment sets in is a good idea.

In our relationship I did morning stuff and my husband did bedtime stuff, mainly because at first he was away early and I worked later. That pattern just continued even though our working patterns changed over time, but we never sat down and said "your turn". That would be unthinkable.

CanofCant · 27/03/2023 14:13

PinkSyCo · 27/03/2023 13:21

Fucking hell it’s all rather regimented isn’t it? This is a baby we’re talking about, YOUR baby not a bloody prisoner of war army cadet!

Yeah, this. I opened the thread expecting it to be about organising co parenting childcare after a separation tbh.

Chooksnroses · 27/03/2023 14:16

Whatever happened to people wanting to care for their babies? Enjoying it and not looking at it as a chore? I feel sorry for this child.

Questionnn · 27/03/2023 14:25

Itsbytheby · 27/03/2023 13:02

Do you never have family time? I just can't imagine going "baby is hungry/ nappy needs changing, but it's saturday so I won't give him any food/ change it as it's DH's day", or DH doing the same. I'd be fuming if he didn't change a nappy becuase he was waiting for me to do it becuase it was "my" day.

I would say on DH's wfh days he should do more. I am not sur ehow he can on days he's away all day. But sounds a bit odd to me to divide things up so rigidly.

To answer a few people asking about refusing to do baby stuff on 'our' day - obviously if baby's nappy needs sorting etc it gets done 😄

I put it as very black/white so as not to make my post too long.

It just means the other person isn't expected to feed the baby, settle them for their nap etc. So on dh day off, we both know it's for me to take baby up to bed, sort their lunch out and so on, so we both aren't 'on'.

With regards to family time, we normally do that on my weekend day off, on dh day off he would do something if i suggested it and organised it, but him actually suggesting and doing doesn't really happen. He feels he is very stressed at work so likes to be able to just go into another room and not really interact with us 🙄

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Aquamarine1029 · 27/03/2023 14:29

He feels he is very stressed at work so likes to be able to just go into another room and not really interact with us

This doesn't bode well. At all. Don't have another child with this man.

Questionnn · 27/03/2023 14:30

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 27/03/2023 13:07

I find it a bit transactional tbh. That you each have a full day where you dont change a nappy because it's not 'your turn'...what happens if one of you is knackered or ill or just had enough?

Anyway I think in general you should both have equal down time - looking after young kids, essential chores, paid work and commuting counts as work and you both get equal time 'off'. So if one of you is doing bedtime, the other washes up dinner stuff for example and then you both chill after.

I find it a bit sad...I might be reading between the lines but it sounds like someone who doesnt even see his own children for the majority of the week is arguing the toss to ensure he spends as little time as possible with them at the weekend. Most fathers I know in that position are keen to take over a bit at the weekend so they feel like a fully involved active parent

Yes it is very transactional.

This is because previously if it was done just as and when, dh felt like at weekends he was doing everything (in his opinion). And then he'd list everything he had done vs me and it became exhausting arguing the toss over who had done more.

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Hoppinggreen · 27/03/2023 14:31

Aquamarine1029 · 27/03/2023 14:29

He feels he is very stressed at work so likes to be able to just go into another room and not really interact with us

This doesn't bode well. At all. Don't have another child with this man.

I bet he bloody does, not really an option as a parent though.
Hes not coming out very well here OP

Questionnn · 27/03/2023 14:32

PinkSyCo · 27/03/2023 13:21

Fucking hell it’s all rather regimented isn’t it? This is a baby we’re talking about, YOUR baby not a bloody prisoner of war army cadet!

This did make me laugh! Yes, we both love our baby massively and dh is amazing with the baby when with them.

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mycatsanutter · 27/03/2023 14:36

I find this all really odd , all the taking it in turns like the baby is a chore rather than a wanted child .

geraniumsrojo · 27/03/2023 14:45

I couldn't get my head around that. But I have a simpler rule to suggest. Equal time off.

Time spent not working, commuting, sleeping (up to 8 hours a night), or doing chores and stuff for the family. That time should be equal.

You can do what you like with it. Spend it alone, or with family, asleep, or awake, at home, or out and about. Much easier to keep track of, especially when it is so scarce!

ImAGoodPerson · 27/03/2023 14:46

This just seems odd, I was with my babies all day, there was always 1 night at least that DH was still at work for their bedtime so literally any other bed times he could do then he would, I would usually sort dinner when he was doing that. Weekends, one lay in each then just did whatever needed doing between us. I'd be extremely pissed off if DH listed everything he'd done. He'd tend to do more baby stuff at weekends as he didn't get the day times with them though the week.

Deathbyfluffy · 27/03/2023 14:52

Tarantellah · 27/03/2023 14:10

Because often you’re worse off by leaving! At least if you stay you get the benefit of his full wages, plus he does at least some childcare on a regular basis, and you have the freedom to pop out and leave the kids with him. Whereas if you leave he’ll only have the kids every other weekend, and will only pay maintenance.

Wow, what an awful generalisation.
Stay in an unhappy marriage to use the man’s money, because you assume if you do split up he’ll only bother once a fortnight and pay the bare minimum?

It must be tiring being so negative and bitter.

jannier · 27/03/2023 14:54

How odd....never heard anything so strange.
Whoever is home helps and does childcare while other cooks or vice versa next day....everyone sits down together once baby is sorted for couple time or own time. Weekends get chores done together if one has to go out or has hobby they spend a few hours doing it once home all family together. If you need a lay in say I need one so tomorrow I'll have a lay in....sitting on backside while other adult runs around is just odd.

JenniferBarkley · 27/03/2023 14:55

With regards to family time, we normally do that on my weekend day off, on dh day off he would do something if i suggested it and organised it, but him actually suggesting and doing doesn't really happen. He feels he is very stressed at work so likes to be able to just go into another room and not really interact with us 🙄

So his time off is for him, but your time off is for everyone.

I haven't read your post in full, but I would do:

One weekend morning off each - fully off, no baby stuff.

Weekend afternoons together as a family. By all means take a day each to shoulder the burden of cooking etc.

Alternate overnights.

Kevenstinger · 27/03/2023 14:56

This sounds like a joyless existence

Albiboba · 27/03/2023 14:58

On 'our day' at weekend, we are not responsible for the baby eg feeds, nappy changes etc

What a depressing way to live.

Do you not want to actually spend any time together as a family?

IWasFunBeforeMum · 27/03/2023 14:59

My god..

LaughingSomnambulist · 27/03/2023 15:07

Do not have any more children. It gets worse as they grow up when you have a husband like yours. His day off is his, your day off is family day. He is already showing that he is unwilling to give up his time and hobbies.

When your child is older and has their own hobbies, clubs, parties, friends, play dates, we all know it will be you doing all of that because he is just so busy and important and his time is hit whilst your time is for everyone else.

Really, read posts on here from women with a husband like yours when their kids are 8/9/10. You will see your future. You are better off having no more kids.

LaughingSomnambulist · 27/03/2023 15:09

Tarantellah · 27/03/2023 14:10

Because often you’re worse off by leaving! At least if you stay you get the benefit of his full wages, plus he does at least some childcare on a regular basis, and you have the freedom to pop out and leave the kids with him. Whereas if you leave he’ll only have the kids every other weekend, and will only pay maintenance.

Yup. And my life is much, much happier this way. Much more fulfilling. I’m so glad I didn’t stay with someone for money.