Led by donkeys - enough is enough

[Thisisvenus]

Bloody hell, I’ve just watched the new “led by donkeys” video. People like Matt Hancock wanting to work for a fake consultancy firm for obscene amounts of cash.

I cannot tell You how angry MPs make me right now.

I have a relative that is an NHS dr on £14 an hour. She pays for her own travel and parking. All her study… she pays for. She is so busy she sometimes doesn’t eat.

then these idiots earn loads, and then claim back loads of expenses. Disgusting in my opinion. They then get second jobs that pay them £10k a day. Without even checking if company is real first.

In my opinion an mp should only take a second job if it’s in the nhs, army etc or a volunteer job for a registered charity. That’s it. No other reason.

I can’t even process this. I’ve had enough. What on earth can we do to change this? And yes I’ll not be voting Tory at the next election. They are a bunch of posh rich boys that want to just look after themselves. Politics should be more diverse. what on earth can we do?

Why wouldn’t he have accepted a knighthood? You’ll be telling us in a minute that none of the 100+ Labour peers are socialists.

Besides I don’t think it is helpful to blame those that voted Tory last time.

Ummm... the people you're complaining about are in the position to be doing whag they are doing precisely because people voted for them. So obviously if you voted for them then you have created the situation.

It was obvious well before the last election that they were a bunch of self-serving, incompetent liars who planned to trash the economy with Brexit etc. So if you voted for that, then why are you surprised?

its like telling a kid that fell over and broke their arm that it’s their own fault.

More like if the kid decided to jump off a very high bridge despite being warned many times that this would likely result in broken bones and then did it anyway... and then substitute that kid for an adult who is meant to have some rational abilities.

Yep. Nobody senior in their professions is going to give up their permanent job to campaign to maybe get a short term contract on a lower salary and subject their family to abuse. This is why other countries pay triple or more what we do to politicians. Cut the number to 1/3, triple the salary, and ban being an MP for more than two terms. Then we might get some competent people.

Would also help to ensure that Ministers were in charge of departments where they actually have experience and qualifications.

Surely a maximum two term rule would make giving up a senior professional job even less attractive? And we need long serving MPs who bring experience to the role. We need people with a wide range of experience and background to represent us. I strongly resist any measure that makes it less likely to have MPs from lower paid and blue collar workers. My current MP is the son of a multimillionaire and he’s utterly useless, his predecessor was John Major whose humble beginnings made him a really excellent constituency MP.

and ban being an MP for more than two terms

Please let this happen.
My chocolate teapot of an MP who has no constituency office, no social media and only replied to an email when I complained to CCHQ and the local Conservative Association after nearly 2 months and 2 re-sends had gone by.... has been in office for over 30 years. Oh and he was voted 650th out of 650 for openness and responsiveness to his constituents in 2019.

Haha.... let this happen for just mine then!

Yes, yours is special @Roussette 😂

Yes, very strange socialists indeed. They aren't doing much for the Class Struggle are they?

Or working towards their objective either "The establishment of a system of society based, upon the common ownership and democratic control of the means and instruments for producing and distributing wealth by and in the interest of the whole community." 🤔

MPs FOR HIRE - Part Three: See how ex-minister Stephen Hammond did in his job interview

https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1640332949273952262?s=20

Blair got rid of Clause 4 30 years ago @YoungMotherHubbardsDog. But then you knew that anyway.

Nope. Career politicians are half of the current problem.

We disagree.

You need to make the salary sufficient to reflect the responsibility to make it worth senior, well-qualified, experienced and capable people think it's worthwhile taking the risk of a career break for, and then limit the time so you don't get useless hangers-on who are only after the contacts trying to make a career out of it, and also get fresh eyes and thinking - but from a background of relevant experience across society - every 10 years max.

You are assuming Central Headquarters & Local Constituency Parties will choose the sanest candidates - and not the ones parroting slogans.

Well yes, I think tbh a far wider overhaul is needed, what I suggested were just short term measures to make some improvement. In an ideal world political parties should be banned entirely because they are always in hoc to vested interests of one type or another. Funded by particular interest groups so fundamentally undermining the principles of the MP's job which is to consider and represent the best interests of all constituents. Better to have individual people elected as independents and then a Government formed of normal humans without extreme views and who actually have competencies and experience in the relevant areas, and work on a basis of evidence-informed policies rather than ridiculous ideologies and partisan politics. But unfortunately that is a pipe dream.

I think the solution is quite obvious. I don't begrudge high wages for MPs because, done properly, it's an extremely demanding job that carries a huge amount of responsibility. The answer is that MPs should not be able to have any kind of financial interest in the industries and companies they are responsible for regulating or funding.

Yes. Triple the pay but they must have no outside work. And conflict of interest clauses preventing them from taking any work with contacts made through the job for say 5 years after leaving office, so that they can't spend their time in office feathering their nests and buttering up a "network".

Exactly! Ironically they've been the only voice of sanity in UK politics for most of the last decade.

I'm not idealising them, but they have sensible policies in terms of the economy, health, education and elsewhere, and we really desperately need a government with some principles.

No. They (Labour) don't have sensible policies either. All of these people seem to be incapable of reading research, speaking to experts or looking at international data and implementing simple, balanced, evidence-based policies proven to work in other countries. They just come up with yet more expensive nonsense based on political optics not improved outcomes, practicality and cost effectiveness.

Labour intends to make the HoL an elected chamber, not abolish it. At least it wouldn’t be crammed with Tory cronies then.

Exactly. And to give up their hard earned careers and put their families through all of the harrassment and abuse, for a LOWER salary? That indeed they may not even get as they may not be elected? Who would give up their career for that?

And that is why we have such low quality politicians, who have mostly never achieved anything. Kier Starmer, Rishi Sunak, Rachel Reeves and a few others who have been GPs etc are exceptions. Generally they are mostly useless people with very few skills, qualifications, expertise or experiences.

^^ Not that I like any of those people, or agree with them. But at least they have some useful life experience and knowledge. Many MPs do not.

No. Just more idiots. The HoL ironically has shown far more rationality and sense as a whole than the HoC for a long time now.

Just wait till you hear about the labour party OP. They believe that human beings can change sex.

They also do not believe that women should have any single sex spaces free from men.

Lisa Nandy believes that rapists who claim to be women should be in women's prisons.

What a load of bollocks.

Kier Starmer - not only women have cervixes

Labour Party Self ID