Led by donkeys - enough is enough

[Thisisvenus]

Bloody hell, I’ve just watched the new “led by donkeys” video. People like Matt Hancock wanting to work for a fake consultancy firm for obscene amounts of cash.

I cannot tell You how angry MPs make me right now.

I have a relative that is an NHS dr on £14 an hour. She pays for her own travel and parking. All her study… she pays for. She is so busy she sometimes doesn’t eat.

then these idiots earn loads, and then claim back loads of expenses. Disgusting in my opinion. They then get second jobs that pay them £10k a day. Without even checking if company is real first.

In my opinion an mp should only take a second job if it’s in the nhs, army etc or a volunteer job for a registered charity. That’s it. No other reason.

I can’t even process this. I’ve had enough. What on earth can we do to change this? And yes I’ll not be voting Tory at the next election. They are a bunch of posh rich boys that want to just look after themselves. Politics should be more diverse. what on earth can we do?

@Janiie has tried and failed for the past year to explain why it was essential for work for the Prime Minister when responsible for the country to be drinking alcohol. Perhaps you @thebaneofmylifeisacat could explain why it was essential and also appropriate?

Exactly. But Angela and Starmer could have booze and curry whilst indoor mixing was also essential only 🤔. It's the hypocrisy that make the 'but he mislead parliament!,' waaah'ers look daft. What they really mean is he is Ragtag Labour's biggest threat and they want him gone for good as quickly as poss.

I will not presume to speak for anyone else, but I care very much that that bastard stood at a podium exhorting everyone to 'follow the rules', they were putting pressure on the police to 'enforce the rules', that people were dying without their loved ones there, were working ridiculous shifts with obscene conditions to save people (including that utter waste of oxygen that is Boris), and then had what is called, at any other time, a party. What a fucking, utter, dickhead. I'd just love it if just once, he couldn't avoid accountability. Not just 'oh, it turns out I fucked up, oh dearie me, my bad', but 'wow, shit, I fucked up and I'm actually going to pay a substantial price.'

And if that's how much you care about what they did, you've lived a very privileged one.

I have been unreliably informed many times over the past year, that many NHS staff were regularly having parties in their staffrooms throughout the pandemic.

What 'they did' was have laws to reduce community spread so folk couldn't keep mixing households willy nilly while also saying SD or mitigation needed to be in place for those who couldn't wfh.

Staff areas at work with food and booze (see also Durham) does not equal party.

@Janiie still doesn't explain why alcohol and cake were essential for work, or why millions of children were deprived the opportunity to have cake and drinks with their work colleagues (aka school friends) on their birthdays.

Different time, different law and guidance

And no FPN

hth

At risk of returning this thread to its original topic.

Has anyone come up with any explanation as to why it is not both deeply concerning and for the individuals scammed embarrasing, that senior Tory politicans are so greedy that they would fall for such a simple trap?

I think @Janiie works on the basis that once something has been law, it remains law forever. On which basis they probably think that Christmas is still illegal.

And Starmer wasn't PM or even in government making the laws and guidances

hth

I was always taught that leaders lead by example. Not by calling themselves the exception and doing the exact opposite of what they are exhorting others to do, to the point that they were getting fines for sitting on a park bench, or being denied the ability to buy childrens' clothes and shoes in a supermarket.

Guess a simple background check is beyond their capabilities

'or why millions of children were deprived the opportunity to have cake and drinks with their work colleagues (aka school friends) on their birthdays.'

Hmm iirc schools were shut for most so they werent spending days together. Please refer to my many previous posts, it was to reduce spread in the community you see. Folk who couldn't wfh were at work anyway and eating a sandwich as I've told you a trillion times is not a party. Again, I'm sorry that you think it is. You may enjoy yourself more and possibly actually have guests keen to come if you have music, dancing etc. A sandwich on a table is not a party.

Ok last time!!!

The important thing now is the covid enquiry. I think this is being put into the long grass because all parties will be scrutinised including the NHS management and gov departments and the civil service

Boris lost his job so did Hancock good they deserved to!

move on to what's really important and stop being gaslighted by the establishment who clearly don't want this enquiry see the light of day!!!

I think he's a Member of Parliament (I know, easy to miss) so he voted for said laws. Shall I do a HTH too?

'You have lived a very privileged life!?

No just a long one snd so not naive or easily manipulated

@Janiie your memory is failing you. Very few schools were shut.

Any gathering that was not essential for work was illegal. Eating together at work was illegal, so was having birthday parties at work or otherwise. Which part of that do you not understand?

Shall we try a different question.
Why do you think the Prime Minister, who introduced hugely draconian laws to stop the spread of the virus was not concerned to do everything possible to stop that spread in his place of work?

If you like

What about the different laws and guidance that applied at that time?

Can you imagine the screams from Labour if Sue Grey had cleared Boris then joined his party

You just can't really grasp the hypocrisy can you from the far left.

Well you can as their leader apparently can't work out what sex half the electorate is but no mind!!

You mean the Sue Gray who was lauded by Johnson and whose report was not part of the Commons Priveleges Committee investigation?

'Any gathering that was not essential for work was illegal. Eating together at work was illegal, so was having birthday parties at work or otherwise. Which part of that do you not understand?'

Yes as i said they were at work not a nightclub or a private residence. If eating together was 'illegal' then they needed ro arrest half the staff in the nhs who did indeed share pizzas in staffrooms up and down the country.

No one had birthday 'parties' at work. There wasn't any dancing or music. Please for goodness sake go to a party and understand the difference.

Given we had all seen the evidence in the newspapers that Boris had broken the law, don't you think ti would have been rather odd for Sue Grey to have cleared him?

Since you appear to be upset @thebaneofmylifeisacat that Sue Grey has joined the Labour party, do you have anything to say about the former Chancellor trying to grab over £100,000 pounds for a few days "work" for a compnay claiming to be in South Korea?

@Janiie You could speed this thread up immensely by explaining why you think the behaviours normally associated with parties - drinking alcohol and eating together were essential for work in Number 10 Downing Street?

Please do try not go to down the offensive rabit hole that is NHS staff sharing food together in staffrooms, anyone who has any awareness fo the NHS when its not in a pandemic knows that the staff don't have time for that.

'do you have anything to say about the former Chancellor trying to grab over £100,000 pounds for a few days "work" for a compnay claiming to be in South Korea?'

Haven't you rtft. Look at Clavs helpful c&p. Labour do exactly the same. Maybe not a made company but I'm sure they've been caught with their trousers down, a Chinese alleged spy springs to mind.