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Gwyneth Paltrow and the skiing incident

387 replies

BringCathyBack · 25/03/2023 07:14

Why is everything about suing these days?
He’s saying she crashed into him whilst being distracted by her kids. So it was an accident then? It’s not like she ploughed into him on purpose or crashed into him whilst drunk or high … it was an accident

She’s saying he crashed into her by accident and is counter suing him.

AIBU to think this whole suing culture for genuine accidents needs to stop?

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Ilooklikesusiedent · 25/03/2023 12:13

Interesting case whatever the cause / end result!

It's like a real life The Good Wife episode. God I loved that show 😂

minou123 · 25/03/2023 12:16

NevieSticks · 25/03/2023 12:00

No the ski instructor did not witness it.

We haven't heard from the 2 ski instructors yet, so we haven't heard what they did or did not witness.

Just to point out. This week the plaintiff (Sanderson) put forward his case. As the plaintiff, he gets to go first.
All his evidence and the witnesses he called are all for his favour.

The case has overrun a bit, so they run out of time this week before he has given his testimony.
But, we will hear from him on Monday.

Next week, it's the defence turn (Paltrow) She will then get to call all the witnesses to testify for her case. At this point we will hear all their evidence.

Normally you call witnesses, experts that will help your case. But, Interestingly, the plaintiff decided to call GP yesterday for thier case.

Why? I dont know. Maybe it is strategy.

Maybe it was to get in there first because she could only answer questions the plaintiff lawyers asks
Without doubt, her team will call her up again, so that they can ask her questions, they want to ask.

MelsMoneyTree · 25/03/2023 12:17

No matter the outcome, I absolutely hate all the focus on how she looks, what she's wearing, if she is happy/contrite/sad/ordinary enough. Even in court cases, women are subjected to so much scrutiny and crap about their outward appearance. It's ridiculous.

Wisteriaroundthedoor · 25/03/2023 12:18

God almighty. The misogyny on this thread. Hurling vile abuse and insults at this woman. Comeplete strangers who have never met her, who cannot know what Happened either way, using the opportunity to attack her, it’s utterly shameful

704703hey · 25/03/2023 12:20

It's nasty isn't it - weight, makeup, dress, it just goes on and on.

Someone said she needed to cut her hair. She's focusing on the court case at present.

PuddlesPityParty · 25/03/2023 12:23

NutellaEllaElla · 25/03/2023 07:37

I mean you accept there is a risk of injury when taking part in sports, no?

You could say the same for driving, so why does everyone claim through insurance hmmm? America is different, his medical bills and care probably aren’t all covered by his insurance so he’ll need the money for that.

Mirabai · 25/03/2023 12:23

NevieSticks · 25/03/2023 12:00

No the ski instructor did not witness it.

https://www.newsweek.com/gwyneth-paltrow-trial-hinges-key-witness-ski-collision-1789127

According to Dave Aronberg, state attorney for Palm Beach County, Florida and former member of the Florida State Senate, there was only one witness to this incident. And this man, a ski instructor who arrived on the scene afterwards, "didn't even see everything," Aronberg told Court TV. The ski instructor then allegedly also blamed the plaintiff in this case, Sanderson, for causing the collision.

Gwyneth Paltrow in 2016

Gwyneth Paltrow trial hinges on key witness of ski collision

Oscar-winner Gwyneth Paltrow is being sued for allegedly injuring another skier, a retired doctor, at the Deer Valley Resort, Utah. The case starts on Tuesday.

https://www.newsweek.com/gwyneth-paltrow-trial-hinges-key-witness-ski-collision-1789127

minou123 · 25/03/2023 12:51

Mirabai · 25/03/2023 12:23

https://www.newsweek.com/gwyneth-paltrow-trial-hinges-key-witness-ski-collision-1789127

According to Dave Aronberg, state attorney for Palm Beach County, Florida and former member of the Florida State Senate, there was only one witness to this incident. And this man, a ski instructor who arrived on the scene afterwards, "didn't even see everything," Aronberg told Court TV. The ski instructor then allegedly also blamed the plaintiff in this case, Sanderson, for causing the collision.

Newsrweek have been really naughty here because this is not what he actually said.

One, he isnt a lawyer in this case or was there. He is a legal commrntator on Court TV channel, giving an opinion.
Two, newsweek have clipped bits out of eveything he said. It isnt accurate and has has removed the context of what he was really saying.

If you want to see what he actually said, here it is - you have to go to 5min.25 secs to see him.

Gwyneth Paltrow Ski Crash Case Begins Tomorrow

#NextLiveTrial: Opening statements are set to begin tomorrow 11/10c in the Gwyneth Paltrow Ski Crash civil case. The actress is being sued by retired optomet...

https://youtu.be/5pTzsbVevrE

Americano75 · 25/03/2023 12:53

KatherineJaneway · 25/03/2023 12:02

Why should she settle? That would indicate she was in the wrong but also make her a target for others hoping for a payout for no reason.

There was an entertainment lawyer discussing the case on the news the other day, it's apparently very common and keeps stuff out of the press, as well as avoiding long drawn out court cases which can also be hugely damaging.

Emotionalsupportviper · 25/03/2023 12:56

CuriousMama · 25/03/2023 11:44

Is that you GP?

I thought that the poster must have quoted the wrong post and was talking about Judge Judy.

prh47bridge · 25/03/2023 13:01

But, Interestingly, the plaintiff decided to call GP yesterday for thier case.

No he didn't- indeed, he can't. The plaintiff cannot call the defendant as a witness.

Paltrow's case started yesterday with her evidence. She was examined by her own lawyer for about an hour, then the plaintiff's lawyer cross examined her for around 30 minutes, following which her lawyer asked her some more questions (known as redirect).

Ilooklikesusiedent · 25/03/2023 13:03

Oh the privilege.

Mirabai · 25/03/2023 13:10

minou123 · 25/03/2023 12:51

Newsrweek have been really naughty here because this is not what he actually said.

One, he isnt a lawyer in this case or was there. He is a legal commrntator on Court TV channel, giving an opinion.
Two, newsweek have clipped bits out of eveything he said. It isnt accurate and has has removed the context of what he was really saying.

If you want to see what he actually said, here it is - you have to go to 5min.25 secs to see him.

You seem to have completely missed the point. First, I did not claim the commentator was a lawyer on the case - if he were he would not be commenting on the case in the media.

Second, the article (and indeed the lawyer - it is not true to say he was selectively quoted) simply makes the point, correctly, that the ski instructor was a witness. The evidence will heard next week. They did not see everything but were witness to some of the events.

Mirabai · 25/03/2023 13:15

Americano75 · 25/03/2023 12:53

There was an entertainment lawyer discussing the case on the news the other day, it's apparently very common and keeps stuff out of the press, as well as avoiding long drawn out court cases which can also be hugely damaging.

Of course she would have settled. She would have been advised to settle. The only reason she would let this get to court is if his version is not actually true.

But even if she wins, the court case itself will be damaging. Personally I think she should have settled even if his story is bollocks.

minou123 · 25/03/2023 13:18

prh47bridge · 25/03/2023 13:01

But, Interestingly, the plaintiff decided to call GP yesterday for thier case.

No he didn't- indeed, he can't. The plaintiff cannot call the defendant as a witness.

Paltrow's case started yesterday with her evidence. She was examined by her own lawyer for about an hour, then the plaintiff's lawyer cross examined her for around 30 minutes, following which her lawyer asked her some more questions (known as redirect).

Not from what I watched.

The plaintiffs case is still going. They haven't finished yet. It was the plaintiff legal team who called her. Not her team.

The judge said to the plaintiffs legal team "call your next witness"
(They are sat on the left hand side)
The plaintiffs legal team said "we call Gwenyth Paltrow"

The female attorney from the plaintiffs team started first with direct.
Her lawyer, the male attorney, then got up. Asked questions under cross
The plaintiffs team (back to the female) asked her more questions under redirect
Then finally her attony (back to the man) asked cross on the redirect.

The plaintiff can call her, because thats what happened yesterday.

minou123 · 25/03/2023 13:25

Mirabai · 25/03/2023 13:10

You seem to have completely missed the point. First, I did not claim the commentator was a lawyer on the case - if he were he would not be commenting on the case in the media.

Second, the article (and indeed the lawyer - it is not true to say he was selectively quoted) simply makes the point, correctly, that the ski instructor was a witness. The evidence will heard next week. They did not see everything but were witness to some of the events.

opps sorry, no I wasn't accusing you of claiming anything . Sorry if it came across like that.

My post was really a commentary on the Newsweek article.

Markasread · 25/03/2023 13:38

Brefugee · 25/03/2023 11:46

she broke skiing etiquette and he got broken ribs. She's not behaving well here

How did she break skiing etiquette? By leaving an experienced instructor to ensure he was ok and pass on details while she joined her young children? If someone had just skied into my back I would have thought that was quite enough.

pinkbaglady · 25/03/2023 13:40

bruffin · 25/03/2023 10:53

You forget that american's have to pay for health care and if they have insurance they still have excesses and the insurance companies want to get their money back.

I could see this if it was say the hot coffee incident but if your going skiing you take out the insurance as it's a known risk!
Have you seen what actually happened in the hot coffee incident.It was truly horrendous!

Sorry - what hot coffee incident?

i never mentioned that

bruffin · 25/03/2023 13:44

Sorry the bit i quoted was from @Grumpybutfunny

Wanttobeyou · 25/03/2023 13:58

I believe her that it was actually his fault.

I think if it was her fault she'd have just paid what must be a small amount of money (to her).

The issues he's having now with memory/personality could be dementia.

prh47bridge · 25/03/2023 14:02

minou123 · 25/03/2023 13:18

Not from what I watched.

The plaintiffs case is still going. They haven't finished yet. It was the plaintiff legal team who called her. Not her team.

The judge said to the plaintiffs legal team "call your next witness"
(They are sat on the left hand side)
The plaintiffs legal team said "we call Gwenyth Paltrow"

The female attorney from the plaintiffs team started first with direct.
Her lawyer, the male attorney, then got up. Asked questions under cross
The plaintiffs team (back to the female) asked her more questions under redirect
Then finally her attony (back to the man) asked cross on the redirect.

The plaintiff can call her, because thats what happened yesterday.

Apologies. You are right. They obviously have some strange practises in Utah.

minou123 · 25/03/2023 14:07

prh47bridge · 25/03/2023 14:02

Apologies. You are right. They obviously have some strange practises in Utah.

No worries.

You had me questioning myself for a moment
I got all Shakespearean "are my eyes deceiving me?" 😁

I thought it was strange they could call her, too.

AngeloMysterioso · 25/03/2023 14:26

The number of people saying she should just shut up and pay him regardless, she’s rich enough, it’s small change etc etc.

Why the fuck should she? Yes she has a lot of money, that’s because she earned it. If she isn’t in the wrong why the hell should she give him a single penny?

Wanttobeyou · 25/03/2023 14:32

AngeloMysterioso · 25/03/2023 14:26

The number of people saying she should just shut up and pay him regardless, she’s rich enough, it’s small change etc etc.

Why the fuck should she? Yes she has a lot of money, that’s because she earned it. If she isn’t in the wrong why the hell should she give him a single penny?

I completely agree.

He showed his true colours when he sent an email to his daughter saying 'I'm famous!'

Also the 'witness' (his mate) said he saw GP with 'that Chris Martin guy'.

She was with Brad and Chris wasn't even there! So he's not impartial and he's unreliable.

GP's version of events is completely plausible. I really hope she wins.