Gwyneth Paltrow and the skiing incident

[BringCathyBack]

Why is everything about suing these days?
He’s saying she crashed into him whilst being distracted by her kids. So it was an accident then? It’s not like she ploughed into him on purpose or crashed into him whilst drunk or high … it was an accident

She’s saying he crashed into her by accident and is counter suing him.

AIBU to think this whole suing culture for genuine accidents needs to stop?

Have you been skiing?

I have and I've had my share of accidents. When you go into someone, it's a very fast impact. You don't have time to grind and thrust.

If the impact was enough to cause him brain damage and broken bones, then I assure you, it wouldn't be the same feeling as someone touching you up.

She's using the obvious get out clause.

Sexual abuse is horrific, but this isn't that. This is a case of Gwyneth using everything she can to avoid a guilty verdict.

She's not saying that.

She's saying that the moment he came into contact with her, her brain was trying to make sense of what was happening. And one of those initial thoughts was 'is this some kind of joke or perverted person'

Completely understandable.

I agree in principle. But the way women are treated in the media - it’s not really worth it.

Every single word, reaction, facial expression, outfit will be obsessed over across the internet and social media, across the world. Already on this thread the posters already getting stuck into the attacks.

And what if she loses?

Yep.

She also brought it up again later, saying that she swore and shouted at him (and didn’t ask if he was okay or stay to check on him) because she felt “violated” by someone “pressing” their body against hers.

I had no opinion about her before this, but having caught quite a bit of this on the trail on the news earlier, she comes across as a deeply unpleasant person. She is smirking a lot of time and has no empathy or care at all.

No it’s not understandable. It happens in a split second. There is absolutely no time for your brain ‘to process it’. I fell
over skiing 3 days ago and it literally feels instantaneous that you are lying on your back in pain.

No, you take responsibility like a grownup. Her entourage would look after the kids.

Entirely depends on the fall. No two falls are alike.

If she’s been skied into it’s not her position to “take responsibility”, it’s the person who caused the accident.

Agree that all falls are different. I've had ones where everything feels in slow motion. I don't think it's unbelievable that you may, for a split second, feel like you're being assaulted.

Under American law, both parties are required to remain at the scene of an accident and exchange contact information. His lawyer quizzed her on this in the court trial - did she know the requirements to stay and share contact information? Gwyneth basically said she wasn't aware and left the ski instructor to collect information (it isn't clear how much of her personal information he shared at the time with the other party on the slope). I guess he will speak to that next week. I would imagine if I was a ski instructor, I would say very little and wouldn't be handing out a celebrity's phone number or address or insurance info.

Please. It makes zero sense.

She is doing the the ultra privileged thing of co-opting women's genuine pain to gain sympathy. It's cynical and it's calculating.

As a woman whose experienced SA, I abhor this behaviour. It genuinely sickens me. It also pisses me off, because the assumption is that as a woman I will hear 'sexual assault!' and immediately park my brain and jump to instant emotion and be all fired up on her behalf. The hope being I'll be incapable of detangling my own lived experience from her claims and therefore seeing her in a sympathetic light. Well she can get to fuck with that.

Even if she's not guilty, this has put me off her completely.

The more people stop worshipping these people the better.

whoever crashed in to whom - surely a normal reaction would be to stop and see if the injured person is OK or needs assistance?

Ive said this on another thread. So sorry for repeating myself.

If you watch the trial, you can see everyone at some point is smirking, laughing and smiling.
Even the judge

The plaintiff (the man who is suing her) hasn't been in the courtroom when all his witnesses have been testifying
But he did come in and watch when she was testifying. He was smirking during parts of her testimony.

Why is she the only only being judged for it?

Because she was the one being asked if she’d stayed to check he was okay or even if she’d asked anyone, later on or even the next day, if he was okay.

She was smirking away then and talking about how she popped off for a message because her knee felt sore and she was a bit stressed.

Knowing, as she does now, that he had broken ribs, it would be decent if she had any empathy, or remorse that she was shouting at him before she went off.

She just seems very very self centred, as if her feelings were and are of paramount importance in comparison to anyone else’s.

*massage

Gwyneth is a celibrity born to celebrities. She grew up in Hollywood as the daughter of a well known actress and a director. She has never known normal life or what it means to be anything other than a celebrity.

I assumed her reactions to the instructor will take care of it and her demeanour in court are likely related to her lifelong experience as a celebrity. The only things she has ever known are entitlement, wealth, fame, and priviledge.

What she said was, after the were on the floor, she was angry at him.
She shouted and swore at him, something like "why did you fucking crash into me"

He said, sorry, sorry, sorry

At this point the ski instructor came over, helped him up and asked him if he was OK.
He said "I'm fine"

GP was still there, listening to this. The ski instructor then said he would handle it and to go with her children.

So, she didn't just leave straight away. She thought he was fine, because he said he was fine.

Of course, this is her version. We haven't heard his yet, that's on Monday

Crikey perhaps I wasn’t clear. But that is completely misunderstanding what I was saying, taking my comment out of context and getting it backwards.

I was agreeing with the poster that the tabloids likely sought out a particularly unflattering photo to create a negative narrative about GP.

The point is it must have been pretty hard to get an unflattering photo of GP as GP appears to have a trained slight smile on her face 99% of the time. I was comparing this to Meghan as she appears to have this facial expression the majority of the time as well. Plus both are actresses. They also both come under heavy scrutiny and this facial expression is neutral but soft, which is an ideal public ‘mask’.

The photo was thus imo an attempt to go behind that mask and create said negative narrative.

Would he sue if she wasn't a celebrity?

“Taking responsibility” for an accident is not the same as sharing information.

I was driven into last week I shared info but I didn’t take responsibility as the accident wasn’t my fault.

Your comments on what the ski instructor did or didn’t say is wild speculation. They haven’t testified yet.

I didn't even speculate! I said he will testify next week.

You imagined if you were the instructor what you would say - which is all purely speculative.

Haha! Seriously? You are too funny.

Gwyneth's driving skills...