Gwyneth Paltrow and the skiing incident

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Why is everything about suing these days?
He’s saying she crashed into him whilst being distracted by her kids. So it was an accident then? It’s not like she ploughed into him on purpose or crashed into him whilst drunk or high … it was an accident

She’s saying he crashed into her by accident and is counter suing him.

AIBU to think this whole suing culture for genuine accidents needs to stop?

I suspect the person who took the photo and the editor who selected that particular photo for publication wanted you to think exactly that. I probably wouldn’t judge a person’s demeanour over 8 days in court based on one photo chosen to suit the narrative of some tabloid tag.

That’s not true. Tortious liability exists in most (if but all) jurisdictions.

american friends have often told me “everyone wants to sue each other”. It’s cultural, but cost of healthcare and/or (lack of) proper insurance will be factors

also no doubt as she is clearly very rich he thought she might settle out of court. Unlucky. I don’t particularly like her but I believe her.

I saw this on the news this morning and she does appear to be smirking actually. She also greets the judge with a big smile on her face, in a way that seems more appropriate for a social occasion than a court case. Maybe that is just how she always behaves though and she hasn’t changed her demeanour because she doesn’t feel remotely stressed or serious about this. She didn’t seem very believable either though, not sure why.

Agreed and as an actress, she possibly has trained her face into a resting small smile. Meghan has this look. It could be natural of course. Idk.

Skier with reduced reactions and skier who wasn't laying attention collide.

Only reason anyone has heard anything is because one is famous.

i saw some of it live streamed last night on the bbc news channel. She comes across as a bit pissed off to be there (as you would be) but essentially credible and not sour. Don’t make assumptions on one photo.

Yes she has sat there for days smirking. What a daft post.

they are both saying each skied into the other, however they have text evidence that she texted her instructor after it saying the guy hurt her and she also went for a massage to try to help as he hurt her.

id not take it as read that he is telling the truth.

Very few accidents happen without someone being at fault. OP, if you were severely injured and left permanently disabled a a result of an avoidable accident caused by someone's carelessness, are you seriously suggesting you'd just shrug your shoulders and decide to suck it up?

What makes me think she may not be to blame is the fact that she's let this come to court after 7 years rather than just pay the guy off at the time to avoid bad PR which most celebs would do.

Not sure why people think you wouldn’t have recourse for this in Europe. You absolutely do and people sue for damages from ski accidents all the time. When you’re skiing, you take on the risk you may be injured. Equally, when you’re skiing, you take on the risk you may be sued if you negligently or recklessly hurt another person. It’s the same when you’re driving a car, baking a cake or building a shed. If you don’t do it in a reasonable way and someone else gets hurt because you were unreasonable then you have to cover their costs - it was your fault!

https://www.penningtonslaw.com/case-studies/compensation-for-serious-injuries-following-skiing-accident-in-france

She didn’t “let” it go to court. He took her to court, she had no choice. He’s suing for a public acknowledgement that she did it. If anything, the fact he didn’t take a pay-off and insisted on taking her to court indicates she’s the one lying!

You don't accept the risk of injury from someone else's negligence. And when taking part in sports where your negligence can cause serious damage, you take reasonable care.

If he had summoned a witness who could lay some medical link to the accident and his lessening ability to taste wine (rather than the natural ageing process in the intervening 7 years or his prior stroke), his claim might look more credible. He’s having to rely on a not qualified friend who is a doc in an entirely unrelated field. Yet you’re all assuming what he’s said is true.

I suspect any smirking is because she knows her properly qualified experts are going to tear these arguments to confetti (Johnny’s witnesses vs amber’s?)

That’s not true, there have been several cases by him against her. He’s lost them all . This is just his last. He now wants her to st she did it.

the evidence would suggest she did not. He crashed into her. And she’s being harassed through the courts by this man.

I think I heard on the news that he’d had a stroke prior to the accident. I don’t see how you work out what caused what health wise.

But he's already had a 3.1 million claim thrown out. She could have settled at any time, she could still settle at any time. This is a civil case, not a criminal one.

If you actually watch her testimony she is very clear and consistent and her explanation makes total sense and she is not accusing him of assault as has been reported . If she is telling the truth and taking skiing out of it if a you felt a man come up behind you unannounced and making strange noises that’s how you might feel , which is what she said . She was shocked and angry and swore and both her and another witness of the aftermath said he stood up and was speaking . He now claims he was unconscious face down in the snow for 5 to 10 minutes . Of course we may all see things differently but the claimant only came into court to watch her and he was laughing and smirking . That’s what juries are for . The lawyers are both boring and weird tbh .

They are Americans it’s their culture, shouldn’t we respect other peoples culture? 😂

Celebrity or not if you are very clear you are not in the wrong would you pay up ? I think that’s why she is only countersuing for one dollar .

It’s just another case of a man bullying a woman and blaming her. Good on Paltrow for not accepting it. If you read the evidence it’s clear why previous judges have chucked this out. And it’s clear he skied into her.

shocked by those hurling abuse at her, she’s lying, she’s a spoiled brat, she’s smirking etc. cluelessly rushing to believe the man and attack the woman. Shameful

This is exactly my thoughts. 💯

Everyone in the courtroom has smirked, laughed, smiled etc, including the judge.

Also, I agree with you on the lawyers. Both lawyers are weird and in my opinion, really unprofessional.

We are only on day 4 of the trial, and the plaintiff is presenting thier case. So I'm trying to reserve my thoughts in who is telling the truth. But her explanation does make sense, to me.

If you crashed into the back of another car you'd be responsible.

It's the rule that you give way to the downhill skier. If she crashed into him she was negligent, not helpless.

See, I wouldn't. But famous people tend to do so to avoid bad publicity.

Try again. Ski accidents are no different than road accidents, and this sort of thing is why in most countries of the Continent we have personal liability insurance. A German regional premier had to resign some years back after skiing into a woman from above on a slope in rather similar circumstances and ending up killing her.

https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/after-disappointing-election-result-thuringia-governor-dieter-althaus-resigns-a-646726.html