Page 7 | Gwyneth Paltrow and the skiing incident

BringCathyBack · 2023-03-25T07:14:03+00:00

Why is everything about suing these days? He’s saying she crashed into him whilst being distracted by her kids. So it was an accident then? It’s not like she ploughed into him on purpose or crashed into him whilst drunk or high … it was an accident She’s saying he crashed into her by accident and is counter suing him. AIBU to think this whole suing culture for genuine accidents needs to stop?

Markasread · 25/03/2023 10:48

ShepherdMoons · 25/03/2023 10:25

From what I have read about this, it sounds that Paltrow was negligent and he was badly injured. I also read that she was unapologetic, lacking in care or responsibility for what she had done. I think maybe this is why it has reached this point.

I find her unbearably smug. Not related but just how she comes across.

I think she was unapologetic because someone had just skied into her back. It wouldn't occur to me to be apologetic.

GonnaBeYoniThisChristmas · 25/03/2023 10:52

Same story Minou and your reporting is more accurate than mine.

Sorry I’m just not charitable enough to believe this is an act entirely outside Gwyneth Paltrows radar/decision making. Why ask her lawyer to raise it? Why not just wait till after the trial and sort it then.

Raising “could we bring some baked goods as a treat” during a personal injury claim is inappropriate and crass. She should have told her kind personal security staff to hold off until the claim was complete.

GonnaBeYoniThisChristmas · 25/03/2023 10:52

I won’t go so far as to say she’s being manipulative…

bruffin · 25/03/2023 10:53

pinkbaglady · 25/03/2023 07:20

I thought the same OP.

im sure someone who’s more well versed in American culture will come on and tell us why he’s suing for what seems to be an accident

You forget that american's have to pay for health care and if they have insurance they still have excesses and the insurance companies want to get their money back.

I could see this if it was say the hot coffee incident but if your going skiing you take out the insurance as it's a known risk!
Have you seen what actually happened in the hot coffee incident.It was truly horrendous!

chevvyroo · 25/03/2023 10:53

Some of the responses on here are mind boggling. It just goes to show that some people will believe what they want to believe.

Ktime · 25/03/2023 10:54

bruffin · 25/03/2023 10:53

You forget that american's have to pay for health care and if they have insurance they still have excesses and the insurance companies want to get their money back.

I could see this if it was say the hot coffee incident but if your going skiing you take out the insurance as it's a known risk!
Have you seen what actually happened in the hot coffee incident.It was truly horrendous!

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He sued for £5m initially though.

MsFogi · 25/03/2023 10:57

I have no time for people who 'ski into' people - it is totally unacceptable. You are responsible for not ploughing into anyone below you on the slope and being in control of your speed so you can stop. There are too many people who think they are 'great' skiers or who brag about how fast they can ski (which for some reason they think make them a good skier rather than someone on a downhill trajectory with gravity helping them) who injure (not to mention kill) people every year.

musingsinmidlife · 25/03/2023 10:57

She is also suing for attorney fees and all related court costs so much more than $1. The $1 is punitive damages.

I think she might have run into him but I doubt the injuries were caused by the collision. Given all her bizarre ideas and his loss of the go pro footage, I wouldn't trust either of them!

NevieSticks · 25/03/2023 10:58

Wisteriaroundthedoor · 25/03/2023 08:18

It’s just another case of a man bullying a woman and blaming her. Good on Paltrow for not accepting it. If you read the evidence it’s clear why previous judges have chucked this out. And it’s clear he skied into her.

shocked by those hurling abuse at her, she’s lying, she’s a spoiled brat, she’s smirking etc. cluelessly rushing to believe the man and attack the woman. Shameful

so we always have to support a woman in anything because of her sex? Other women are not allowed to have a different opinion because they are the same sex?

Ktime · 25/03/2023 10:59

GonnaBeYoniThisChristmas · 25/03/2023 10:52

Same story Minou and your reporting is more accurate than mine.

Sorry I’m just not charitable enough to believe this is an act entirely outside Gwyneth Paltrows radar/decision making. Why ask her lawyer to raise it? Why not just wait till after the trial and sort it then.

Raising “could we bring some baked goods as a treat” during a personal injury claim is inappropriate and crass. She should have told her kind personal security staff to hold off until the claim was complete.

Judge wasn’t that bothered by it.

Lawyers for Mr Sanderson swiftly objected, prompting Judge Kent Holmberg to say: "OK, there's an objection so thank you, but no thank you."
But he said either party could "decide to do that later" if they wished

SgtCatherineCawood · 25/03/2023 10:59

Is there a glitch? I keep seeing people reposting the YouTube video with big spaces underneath but no text

Emotionalsupportviper · 25/03/2023 11:00

MoonriseKingdom · 25/03/2023 07:28

I saw a documentary about that case that often gets referred to about the woman who sued McDonalds over the hotness of their coffee. It sounds frivolous but the alternative was being bankrupted by medical bills as she had had a long hospital stay with skin grafts. I think Medical bills in America can drive a lot of litigation.

People scoffed at that case, but if you saw the photos of her injuries it wasn't a minor, just-being-a-fanny-about-it thing. You are right that it was her medical bills ($10,000) that forced her to sue - she'd tried asking McDonalds to recompense her and they effectively told her to piddle off! Jurors decided that McDonalds need to learn a lesson, and awarded huge punitive damages.

The coffee was, and McDonald's knew it was, at a ridiculous heat. I've scalded myself with coffee before ( a minor scald) and still have a small keloid scar on my stomach 30 years later - it was agonising. And my coffee had milk in it - hers was black and had nothing to lower the temperature. If it spills onto clothing (as mine did) the heat is held against your skin and you can't immediately cool the area.

https://www.caoc.org/?pg=facts

https://vahdatlaw.com/the-hot-coffee-lawsuit-irvine-personal-injury-lawyer/

Mrs Liebeck deserves every penny.

"Know the Facts:" Resources for Consumers

https://www.caoc.org/?pg=facts

MelsMoneyTree · 25/03/2023 11:01

It's a shame he managed to lose the Go-Pro footage of the incident. You'd have thought if it conclusively proved what he was saying that he'd have made sure he passed it to his lawyers and didn't just send the link to his DDs.
I'm not particularly fond of GP but I wouldn't assume she was liable or lying in this case. Apparently, he was very quick to tell people he was 'famous' because of it.

minou123 · 25/03/2023 11:04

Ktime · 25/03/2023 10:59

Judge wasn’t that bothered by it.

Lawyers for Mr Sanderson swiftly objected, prompting Judge Kent Holmberg to say: "OK, there's an objection so thank you, but no thank you."
But he said either party could "decide to do that later" if they wished

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Quite. Watching it, it really wasnt a big deal.

musingsinmidlife · 25/03/2023 11:05

I mean Gwyneth previously told people to buy a $66 jade egg and put it in their vagina and it would prevent the uterus from sagging, make periods more regular, balance hormone levels, and stop incontinence.

Her versions of truth is flexible.

itsgettingweird · 25/03/2023 11:15

Threads like these show why many will take it to court - both the person suing and the person who is sued.

So many posts on here all apparently stating facts of what happened.

And yet - they contradict each other and not one of the people writing absolute fact of what happened was there as a witness!

I'm keeping an open mind but the fact he's has numerous cases about the same thing thrown out I'm not 100% convinced his side is the complete and utter accurate truth.

piedbeauty · 25/03/2023 11:15

He originally sued her for$3 million but that case was thrown out.

Some of his medical 'evidence' is just bizarre - he used to be charming but he's not now? He gets frustrated easily - but then his dd admitted he's always got frustrated easily?

Very weird.

NevieSticks · 25/03/2023 11:15

SecondhandMuck · 25/03/2023 10:28

Her putting the 'it definitely wasn't sexual assault but for a moment I thought it could have been sexual assault' was a cynical move on GP's and her legal team's part.

Exactly and this is an example of the woman who called wolf. It is a pretty low attempt at a defence - well I am a woman (a 5 foot 10 woman) so of course this 5 foot 5 man could have been trying to molest me on the ski slopes in full view of everyone. It comes across as a pathetic attempt to destroy this man - not only is he a possible liar, he is also some pervert who tried to assault her who "always tried to remain anonymous when skiing. In my ski suit and helmet I could be anyone" This actually shoots her in the foot about him knowing it was her and thinking oh I will ski into her to sue her. It is all part of the play acting between her and the prosecution.

The female prosecutor is also playing the game ( it's what court is all about) with her false compliments about her height, her potential ski suits which end up with G having to smile and laugh back and then put her poker face ( slightly smiley) back on. You could also see G at it when she asked the prosector to remind her of what her name was again. It smacked a bit of " you are of no significance to me Miss Prosecutor" and contrary to the rest of G's testimony let a little bit of irritation shine through. G's face is showing a mix of patience ( false?) , innocence (false?) but she is steely and well coached in avoiding anything other than the line " He skied into me" and "I don't recall" ad infinitum. She is trying to pretend to be ordinary and yes the ski school for her children was so expensive at $8000 ( a figure she couldn't recall) while sitting there in a $65000 necklace.

It's fascinating.

piedbeauty · 25/03/2023 11:19

I'm amazed there are no actual witnesses to this accident. who could say definitively who skied into who.

AdaHopper · 25/03/2023 11:23

The whole case is BS. People who ho skiing should make sure they are properly insured.

There is always a risk of accidents and collisions. It is sometimes very hard to avoid. If you ski, you take that risk and ensure you are properly insured. End off. I don't care who skied into whom.

Mirabai · 25/03/2023 11:24

itsgettingweird · 25/03/2023 11:15

Threads like these show why many will take it to court - both the person suing and the person who is sued.

So many posts on here all apparently stating facts of what happened.

And yet - they contradict each other and not one of the people writing absolute fact of what happened was there as a witness!

I'm keeping an open mind but the fact he's has numerous cases about the same thing thrown out I'm not 100% convinced his side is the complete and utter accurate truth.

I’d hazard that if GP had actually skied into him, that she would have settled out of court to keep the case out of the media. 300k is not that much to someone who gets paid millions per film.

If she’s defending it in court, I reckon she feels strongly about it, and thinks she’s got a good chance of winning.

musingsinmidlife · 25/03/2023 11:31

Mirabai · 25/03/2023 11:24

I’d hazard that if GP had actually skied into him, that she would have settled out of court to keep the case out of the media. 300k is not that much to someone who gets paid millions per film.

If she’s defending it in court, I reckon she feels strongly about it, and thinks she’s got a good chance of winning.

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She didn't back down or settle during the jade egg stupidity and let the court make the settlement against her. No effort to keep that out of the media either.

I think any press is good press is part of the GOOP motto!

blitheringblackberries · 25/03/2023 11:33

I'm amazed there are no actual witnesses to this accident. who could say definitively who skied into who.

This!

The only thing that remotely makes sense to me is that they skiied into each other. Both traversing -Gwyneth slightly above - neither is paying full attention -and they collide. It makes more sense if it's on the traverse because you tend to look down the slope

AlwaysLatte · 25/03/2023 11:34

If it's true that such an experienced skier wiped him out causing permanent injuries then took off without even stopping then yes, I think she should be taken to court. But no one knows the full story so best not to speculate.

AlwaysLatte · 25/03/2023 11:35

you accept there is a risk of injury when taking part in sports, no?
Do you mean 'yes?'