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Gwyneth Paltrow and the skiing incident

387 replies

BringCathyBack · 25/03/2023 07:14

Why is everything about suing these days?
He’s saying she crashed into him whilst being distracted by her kids. So it was an accident then? It’s not like she ploughed into him on purpose or crashed into him whilst drunk or high … it was an accident

She’s saying he crashed into her by accident and is counter suing him.

AIBU to think this whole suing culture for genuine accidents needs to stop?

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YellowDots · 25/03/2023 09:12

StillWantingADog · 25/03/2023 08:42

@XelaM
did you miss the part where she asked him if he was ok and he said “yes”. This doesn’t seem to be disputed.

"She admitted that she did not remember asking if Sanderson was okay and left ski instructor Eric Christiansen to 'handle' the situation for her - continuing down the slope to meet daughter Apple at the bottom."

lljkk · 25/03/2023 09:13

If someone crashes into you & then gets up quickly then you might not ask if they are ok... <shrug> It really comes down to who is more believable if witnesses can agree who hit who.

Sirius3030 · 25/03/2023 09:14

Chickenly · 25/03/2023 07:32

She’s a very wise woman. I adore her.

Hahahahahaha!

Sirius3030 · 25/03/2023 09:16

Ktime · 25/03/2023 08:32

And Gwyneth is only suing for $1, just to show that she was the injured party.

Hard to know who to believe. Would Gwyneth have been going so fast with her kids with her?

You don’t ski do you? The kids were likely to be skiing faster than her.

Unsure33 · 25/03/2023 09:17

XelaM · 25/03/2023 08:40

She left a 78-year-old man with serious injuries on the mountain and skiied off!!! She's a disgusting human being and I hope he manages to get as much money as possible from her.

Her excuse: "he was groaning so I thought it was a sexual assault". 🙄🙄🙄🙄 She's horrible

Have you actually been watching the trial or just reading headlines in the media ?

Sirius3030 · 25/03/2023 09:18

Americano75 · 25/03/2023 08:03

What makes me think she may not be to blame is the fact that she's let this come to court after 7 years rather than just pay the guy off at the time to avoid bad PR which most celebs would do.

Well, she is probably going to lose, so hat will work out well…

XelaM · 25/03/2023 09:20

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 25/03/2023 09:01

According to today’s Times, there is pretty cast iron physical evidence (from his injuries) that she did ski into him, not the other way around.

Exactly!!!!!! The physical evidence clearly suggests SHE crashed into HIM... and then left him there seriously injured

minou123 · 25/03/2023 09:20

YellowDots · 25/03/2023 09:12

"She admitted that she did not remember asking if Sanderson was okay and left ski instructor Eric Christiansen to 'handle' the situation for her - continuing down the slope to meet daughter Apple at the bottom."

That's not the full story of what she said.

She was very angry and swore at him and shouted at him - why did you crash into me - etc.
He said, sorry, sorry, sorry.

The skin instructor came over, helped him up and asked him if he was OK, he said yes, I'm fine. GP was still next to them.

The ski instructor then said to GP he will handle the sharing of information etc. So she went off and joined her kids.

She didn't ask if Sanderson was OK, because she was there when the ski instructor asked him and heard him say he was OK.

Sirius3030 · 25/03/2023 09:21

Wisteriaroundthedoor · 25/03/2023 08:18

It’s just another case of a man bullying a woman and blaming her. Good on Paltrow for not accepting it. If you read the evidence it’s clear why previous judges have chucked this out. And it’s clear he skied into her.

shocked by those hurling abuse at her, she’s lying, she’s a spoiled brat, she’s smirking etc. cluelessly rushing to believe the man and attack the woman. Shameful

The evidence is fairly clear that she skied into him. That’s all, so take your misanthropy and stuff it.

Bletherbasis · 25/03/2023 09:22

It's the rule that whoever is upslope must pay attention and be responsible. A number of horrible accidents have happened due to neglect of this rule, notably the death of a 5 year old girl in France last season when an adult racing down the slope crashed into her. I personally know someone who ended up in a wheelchair in similar circumstances.

I don't care who crashed into whom in this particular case, but any news or discussion that promotes responsible skiing is very welcome.

Unsure33 · 25/03/2023 09:22

lljkk · 25/03/2023 09:13

If someone crashes into you & then gets up quickly then you might not ask if they are ok... <shrug> It really comes down to who is more believable if witnesses can agree who hit who.

Exactly . So like I said taking skiing out of it ….if a man , who you did not hear , came up behind you making strange noises and pushed his chest into your back and knocked you over ? What would you do ? Her explanation makes sense . And she moved away , watched a ski instructor help him up . He looked ok . She was still angry and upset . The ski instructor said he would deal with it so she could find the children . Let’s wait and see what the plaintiff says next week , because at one stage he said he could not remember what happened .

Unsure33 · 25/03/2023 09:22

Bletherbasis · 25/03/2023 09:22

It's the rule that whoever is upslope must pay attention and be responsible. A number of horrible accidents have happened due to neglect of this rule, notably the death of a 5 year old girl in France last season when an adult racing down the slope crashed into her. I personally know someone who ended up in a wheelchair in similar circumstances.

I don't care who crashed into whom in this particular case, but any news or discussion that promotes responsible skiing is very welcome.

Good point .

Funkyslippers · 25/03/2023 09:25

Sirius3030 what evidence?

ShippingNews · 25/03/2023 09:26

EmmaDilemma5 · 25/03/2023 07:42

I would imagine it's

  • to cover medical bills
  • extremely frustrating to have someone outright lie about what happened. She's saying he skiing into her from behind, and she momentarily thought it was a sexual thing. I mean, really?!

Imo she's a spoilt brat who thinks she can get away with it. I'd be chasing it to the bitter end too.

As a woman who was once sexually assaulted by a man who came and grabbed me from behind, I can definitely understand GP's first thought. Don't assume that you know how she felt.

Americano75 · 25/03/2023 09:26

Sirius3030 · 25/03/2023 09:18

Well, she is probably going to lose, so hat will work out well…

Then surely settling would have made even more sense? As it is, she must be feeling fairly confident given that his claims have already been dismissed by another judge.

StillWantingADog · 25/03/2023 09:27

YellowDots · 25/03/2023 09:12

"She admitted that she did not remember asking if Sanderson was okay and left ski instructor Eric Christiansen to 'handle' the situation for her - continuing down the slope to meet daughter Apple at the bottom."

Not sure what you are reading or watching but the part of the live feed I saw yesterday clearly showed her saying she asked if he was ok, he said yes and only then did she ski off.

if there is another time where this is disputed fair enough but it seemed quite clear in the bit I watched

MapleSyrupSweet · 25/03/2023 09:31

Who was up slope?

Florenz · 25/03/2023 09:31

She is a nasty piece of work, there's been stories about her for years about how she treats people she sees as "beneath" her. The man isn't asking for much, I think she should just pay him, she has more than enough money.

JocelynBurnell · 25/03/2023 09:32

merrymelodies · 25/03/2023 07:51

I saw a photo of her in court and she this sour smirk on her face. She looks like she expects to wipe the floor with judge 🙁

I am sure the photo was very carefully chosen with people like you in mind.

minou123 · 25/03/2023 09:33

MapleSyrupSweet · 25/03/2023 09:31

Who was up slope?

That's the question 😁

Both sides are claiming the other one was upslope.

Businessflake · 25/03/2023 09:36

GoodChat · 25/03/2023 07:39

Yes you accept there's a risk of injury, but not that someone else's negligence may leave you brain damaged.

I disagree. When it comes to skiing there are, sadly, a lot of selfish twats about who go far too quickly, particularly on busy slopes. If you are going to ski you accept the risk that one day one of them might take you out.

MrsFinkelstein · 25/03/2023 09:37

Vermin · 25/03/2023 07:45

He was suing for $3m and a previous judge threw out the majority of his claims. The only remaining claim is for acknowledgment of wrongdoing. This has been going on for 6 years and most of his symptoms were in existence following a stroke prior to the accident, now exacerbated by age. He’s suing her for ageing. He was taking part in a high risk sport with full insurance as a partially sighted 70 year oldwho had previously suffered a brain injury- risk upon risk. He didn’t see her coming. His medical witness is a friend of his, and not a trauma or brain injury specialist.
he’s suing her because she’s rich. The only independent/ not related witness skied over and the first thing he said was “you just took out gwyneth Paltrow” which is weird language to use if she skied into the back of him.

Thanks. This info changes quite a bit. Sounds like he's chancing it and people are jumping on the bandwagon because GP is found to be pretty annoying.

I'm no a GP fan, but if that is the actual circumstances, then he's just a chancher

Anewuser · 25/03/2023 09:41

This just sounds like typical America.

If we go on holiday, we’re expected to have insurance to cover any foreign medical bills.

Everyone knows skiing is a risky sport and you do your own risk assessment.

I have no sympathy for either of them.

Sirius3030 · 25/03/2023 09:41

Funkyslippers · 25/03/2023 09:25

Sirius3030 what evidence?

Apart from the eyewitnesses, the fact that he was injured and she wasn’t. His injuries being consistent with being knocked over.
And I can assure you that on a ski slope, if you come in contact with another skier, you first thought is not about sexual assault, it is terror about the certain looming tumble and the likely pain or injury. She is lying.

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