To think this dog should be destroyed and the owner imprisoned?

[YaWeeFurryBastard]

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/victoria-park-police-horse-dog-attack-crime-london-b1069385.html

Apologies if there’s been another thread on this but I couldn’t see one! A police horse has been attacked an injured by an off-lead dog in London. No prizes for guessing the breed 🙄.

AIBU to think if the dog is capable of attacking a horse (I think we can assume unprovoked) then there is a serious risk of fatal consequences to a human from this dog and therefore it needs to be put down?

The owner of the dog deserves a custodial sentence.

Unfortunately, all the while really thick people are allowed to buy whatever dog they want, as long as they can afford the price of the puppy, this will keep happening.

Slightly different scenario, but my DD works at a dog rescue and a young Great Dane has been brought in this week because ‘we weren’t expecting him to be so big and we can’t manage him now’. I only wish I was joking. Now a massive, adolescent, intact, male dog that has never been socialised needs the rescue to put in immense time, effort and money if he’s ever to be able to be adopted by responsible owners.

Thick. The lot of them.

Whilst I don’t disagree with this exactly, the issue with simply banning this latest breed that seems to be the main problem atm is, the thick twats that buy them and fail to act as responsible owners will just move on to another hard man breed. For example, one of the guardian breeds. EG Ovcharkas, say, relatively rare now but ban XL bulldogs and they might suddenly become more popular. Big intimidating dog, perfectly capable of killing other animals or humans in the wrong hands. All the while anyone can buy any dog, there will be morons putting everyone else - including their own dogs - at risk.

And allow the twat of an owner to walk it through the park out of control again to attack a child, or another dog? No. Destroy it. It can't be trusted ever again.

That idiot stood laughing while others tried to grab his dog. He needs a ban on owning dogs. I would put him in prison but the prisons are full. So a huge fine. The dog just has a prey drive, and has not been trained to ignore horses.

That poor poor horse.

Trans activists at a recent Let Women Speak event in Australia were punching horses to get to the women.

The owners sounds like a prize twat, and sadly he dog will pay the price.
However, horses are prey animals, as are sheep. Farmers sometimes lose sheep to off lead dogs that are absolutely fine with people. Dogs can tell the difference between a prey animal and a human.

My two daughters and I were nearly killed by a dog out of control last year and the owner is fighting it. This happened in August last year and it won't be heard in court until mid-January next year.

He had a dog that's used in the Navy Seals - a Belgian Malinois. Apparently, he wanted a Rottweiler but his partner wanted a friendly dog. They "settled" on this breed. The police suggested to me that he'd taken lots of precautions - and it seems like he did. But he chose a dog that's known to attack children unprovoked. And the extent of the precautions he took suggests he knew exactly what the dog was capable of.

But a visitor is supposedly to blame for the do escaping all those precautions.

We were walking along all innocently - no loud screams or shrieks even when all of sudden this do comes charging towards us and knocked my daughter to the ground.

I remember thinking, "This is it." And in those split seconds thinking do you stay calm like you're supposed to with a tiger/lion etc. I don't remember doing this (luckily there was Ring CCTV footage from across the road) but I kicked the dog away whilst trying to shield my baby in the buggy from the attack as it was eyeing her up.

My daughter ran across the busy road to get away. Second potential death.

We fled across the road and into a driveway in typical Scream fashion. It was trying to get us but luckily a man got out of his car and managed to get it away. It then tried to go after my daughter who was on the pavement but another man lifted her to safety.

If it wasn't for those heroes that day I truly believe one of us would be dead. Luckily my daughters were unscathed apart from my eldest getting a bump to the head. But now she'll sometimes run into the road even to get away from an oncoming dog.

But he's going to challenge it on the basis that it was the visitor's fault.

If your bloody dog nearly killed a child and a baby - completely unprovoked - despite you supposedly "doing all you could" does that not tell you the right thing to do is to put the dog down?

To make it worse, he didn't even come over to see if we were okay after.

So yes, I agree that something needs to be done. If you take the risk of having a dog bred to prey then you should suffer the consequences.

I’m the world’s biggest dog lover and I will always trot out the “it’s not the dog, it’s the owner” cliche. But in this case the dog needs to be put down, sadly.

The dog has been royally failed by its owner and what happened is through no fault of the dog itself. But as sad as it is, being put to sleep is the only option here.

Have you not followed in the media how many HUMAN lives Bully’s have taken?

they all need to be banned and destroyed

Please don’t use the word “destroyed”. That’s a sentient being you are taking about, not a piece of rubbish: . Awful thing to say.

Was just coming on to say this. I have horses and dogs too. It’s quite common, unfortunately, for some dogs to chase horses, as they do sheep. It doesn’t mean that the dog is likely to attack a human. It just means the owner is a dickhead that can’t control or train their dog.

I'm beginning to warm to the idea of implementing a leash law in the UK. You should only be permitted to have your dog off-lead on private land with permission from the land owner.

I agree, it is horrible. It makes me think they are blowing the poor dog up in some sort of controlled explosion.
'Executed' is more accurate tbh.

I was walking down the road the other night and two lads were walking three XL bullies. To be fair they had them all on leads and when they heard me walking behind them one offered to step aside with the dogs so I could walk past. We exchanged brief pleasantries and I made a nervous comment about how they looked terrifying. The second lad laughed as if I was being daft and the first one said to him "to be fair they ain't Jack Russell's are they?" It's always the same type of people who have these breeds - the ones who "think they're hard" 🙄

On a lead in the park - fine. Muzzled too.

But then what? It wouldn't be on a lead or muzzled at home, someone comes to the door / friends are round / it dashes out of the door into the street or park...a dangerous unpredictable dog is a dangerous unpredictable dog.

Plus if these irresponsible owners thought their dog would be put down for attacks they might take kore care, learn about training and take precautions as necessary.

The owner sounds like a spoilt, entitled, pathetic twat. Is it definite he can’t be destroyed?

The owners are culpable, of course they are. What sort of a person would want to be responsible for an animal like this in the first place? However, these dogs are not able to be reliably domesticated. They are dangerous in the way that a grown chimpanzee is dangerous - it’s not their fault, but it’s how it is. They are too unpredictable and too powerful for humans to control.

Personally, I don’t understand the appeal of big dogs. I have a poodle - he’s like a little teddy bear and poses no risk to anyone. You never hear of a poodle causing harm to another animal or a person, no matter how awful the owner might be. I know that not all big dogs are unsafe, but why take the risk?

@ALifeofChaos I am so sorry - your poor daughter. Poor you. I felt sick reading that account.

But this dog did not attack a person. It attacked a prey animal. Dogs who attack other animals are not automatically euthanised.
JRT who go for rats would be put to sleep, a greyhound who catches a squirrel in the park would be put to sleep, a lab who attacks a sheep would be put to sleep.
As has been said many times... dogs know the difference between other animals and humans.

Well given that humans get attacked and mauled whether identified as prey or not I am not sure what comfort that is supposed to give.

Dogs are dangerous. This includes police dogs. Police forces pay hundreds of thousands of pounds compensation every year for bites by police dogs, and some of their victims are other police officers. Generally, police officers supposedly in control of these dogs are never prosecuted, and even the dogs who do this are sometimes allowed to remain on duty.

The worst case was in 2014 when a 73-year-old gave permission for police to search her garden for a fugitive drug dealer. She was not told this would involve a police dog off the lead. The dog entered her house, attacking her for around 30 seconds, ignoring the handler's commands to stop. The dog was restrained, but escaped and attacked the woman a second time. She died from her injuries. The handler received a written warning. The dog was destroyed, but it had been involved in 10 previous biting incidents. Some police forces with a problem dog, rather than remove it from duty, sell it on to another force and have been known to suppress details of its previous biting incidents.

Hakan Niyazi is a self absorbed twat.

I hope when googling his name for the sympathy he thinks he deserves he comes across this thread and sees what people think of him.

@XenoBitch As has been said many times... dogs know the difference between other animals and humans.

And yet humans so often get bitten.