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Tryingmybestok · 23/03/2023 06:19

Travelled 2 hours to get away for 2 nights with the kids. Once we checked in I put everything down in the lodge and went to get some shopping and some food. By time we got back here it was late. No cot for DS and no water in the hot tub. I’ve stayed here numerous times and never had an issue so I just assumed was all ok.

their is no signal so I’m having to walk the kids down to the reception just to try and contact someone.

first time I’ve come anywhere on my own with the kids and it’s just all gone so wrong.

OP posts:
ShirleyPhallus · 23/03/2023 12:16

TaunterOfWomenInGeneralSaysSayonarastu · 23/03/2023 12:12

Blimey, don't they?

I worked for a log cabin company a couple of summers ago.
We changed the hot tub water & gave the tub a good scrub-out between each guest. Every time. No exceptions.

Sounds great but highly unusual

draining a hot tub takes a few hours. Filling it takes the same. Letting it heat up to an appropriate temperature takes several hours +++. Think of the cost of the water and electricity. No way do most places do that between guests esp if some guests are only there for 1-2 nights at a time

Lovelyveg80 · 23/03/2023 12:24

Newusername21 · 23/03/2023 12:15

Well I can assure you the place i stayed DID change the water and clean in between guests. It was a major lodge park in north wales. It was clearly stated in the terms of booking that it would not be suitable for use on the first night.
I'm really glad they did too - who would want to get in a hot tub after a stranger had shed their skin cells into it - let alone anything else!!!

Could you let us know name please!

EsmeSusanOgg · 23/03/2023 12:29

PurpleWisteria1 · 23/03/2023 10:41

There is only 2 things you need to know or be concerned with here from the OP.

  1. she arrived at lodge.
  2. The lodge didn’t have the amenities she asked for and has paid for.
Thats it. Everything else is just you and others sticking the boot in and being miserable picky sods for no reason other than to vent your own frustrations. No need. Just scroll by!

This. OP is very much entitled to a refund under the Consumer Rights Act 2015. She has not received the service paid for, and there is no reasonable way to put it right in the time frame. Even if they fix it immediately, she is entitled to a refund for the time she was without the service.

Tealsofa · 23/03/2023 12:56

Theamofm · 23/03/2023 09:52

Some people on here are so mean and judgemental. If I'd have booked a lodge with a working hot tub and asked for a cot I'd expect it! Lodges are expensive, and probably pay extra for a hot tub so I would definitely complain.

If the lodge is clean and other wise fine I don't think I'd cut my trip short but I would be annoyed!

I'd ask for them to fix the issues and if they can't fill the hot tub I'd want some money back for lack of enjoyment of your lodge. You've paid for it so should get it. People are saying it's not a big deal but it would be to me. People save for months to take short breaks and it should be all you expected it to be!

I'd be annoyed too, but I would also report it quicker and get restitution

Newusername21 · 23/03/2023 13:04

Lovelyveg80 · 23/03/2023 12:24

Could you let us know name please!

It was a Hoeseasons Holiday park in Rhyl - can't honestly remember the specific park name but I've seen the same stipulation on a number of different park websites.
I'm quite surprised people are questioning my post about this TBH. I would of thought it should be common practice to clean hot tubs between guests?

Dont want to de-rail Op's original thread so hopefully she is off enjoying her short break and has managed to resolve situation wherever she is staying.

AdobeWanKenobi · 23/03/2023 13:45

PurpleWisteria1 · 23/03/2023 10:44

Yes. You probably are the only one who wouldn’t let your child in a hot tub until they are 12. It’s sanitised bubbly warm water, not a vat of acid.
Sadly I don’t think all the hot tubs in the world would help you unclench.

That post had everything, hot tubs, extreme judgemental pearl clutching and the mournful faces of children. Perfection 😂

McOrange · 23/03/2023 14:06

Newusername21 · 23/03/2023 13:04

It was a Hoeseasons Holiday park in Rhyl - can't honestly remember the specific park name but I've seen the same stipulation on a number of different park websites.
I'm quite surprised people are questioning my post about this TBH. I would of thought it should be common practice to clean hot tubs between guests?

Dont want to de-rail Op's original thread so hopefully she is off enjoying her short break and has managed to resolve situation wherever she is staying.

I think it should be, but given the threads on the inner workings of a hotel which cleaners always say they don’t even replace the glasses between guests but simply wash them in the sink and dry them with old bedding or something then i don’t believe it happens anywhere near as often as it should!

Movinghouseatlast · 23/03/2023 14:18

ShirleyPhallus · 23/03/2023 12:16

Sounds great but highly unusual

draining a hot tub takes a few hours. Filling it takes the same. Letting it heat up to an appropriate temperature takes several hours +++. Think of the cost of the water and electricity. No way do most places do that between guests esp if some guests are only there for 1-2 nights at a time

They absolutely do. There are guidelines that have to be followed set by BISHTA. Not following them invalidates insurance if there is a problem so it would be a gamble. You have to fill in a logbook every day and councils come round to do spot checks.

ShirleyPhallus · 23/03/2023 15:26

Movinghouseatlast · 23/03/2023 14:18

They absolutely do. There are guidelines that have to be followed set by BISHTA. Not following them invalidates insurance if there is a problem so it would be a gamble. You have to fill in a logbook every day and councils come round to do spot checks.

I’m sure that’s the case for bigger places but i really doubt airbnbs etc do. How would anyone know? You check the levels, do the chemicals and fill out the log book.

TaunterOfWomenInGeneralSaysSayonarastu · 23/03/2023 15:37

ShirleyPhallus · 23/03/2023 12:16

Sounds great but highly unusual

draining a hot tub takes a few hours. Filling it takes the same. Letting it heat up to an appropriate temperature takes several hours +++. Think of the cost of the water and electricity. No way do most places do that between guests esp if some guests are only there for 1-2 nights at a time

Draining them took minutes, refilling took place while we cleaned the cabins, & heating was via logburner, with the guest paying for each bag of logs & heating their own tub whenever they wanted to.

Interesting - & rather disgusting - to learn it's unusual to change the water between guests.

Lovelyveg80 · 23/03/2023 15:40

Newusername21 · 23/03/2023 13:04

It was a Hoeseasons Holiday park in Rhyl - can't honestly remember the specific park name but I've seen the same stipulation on a number of different park websites.
I'm quite surprised people are questioning my post about this TBH. I would of thought it should be common practice to clean hot tubs between guests?

Dont want to de-rail Op's original thread so hopefully she is off enjoying her short break and has managed to resolve situation wherever she is staying.

Hoeseasons t&cs make no reference whatsoever to disposing and refilling hot Tub!

Your accommodation will be cleaned before your arrival. As a limited amount of time is available to clean between visitors, please help lodge and park owners to maintain their standards by leaving your accommodation and its contents in a clean and tidy condition. Cleaning is not provided during your stay.

and it actually says “limited time is available to clean between visitors”. Which wouldn’t work with disposing and refilling!

Lovelyveg80 · 23/03/2023 15:40

Sorry that was for @Newusername21

sarahh96 · 23/03/2023 16:01

Having worked in holiday lodges accommodation with hot tubs I can guarantee that they are/should be drained/refilled/balanced every time a lodge is vacated. If the guests are staying longer than 3 days the tub chemical levels are checked, and more is added, if needed.
This is done every time, without fail. All levels are logged and once a week samples are sent away to be analysed and verified. The last thing a holiday company wants is a guest going down with Legionnaires disease.
Totally off topic, but thought I'd make the point

Newusername21 · 23/03/2023 16:06

@Lovelyveg80
I'm not going to respond more as I dont wish to derail thread any further.

I was simply sharing my experience with renting a property with a hot tub. Which is the experience I had - regardless of whats normal and does or doesn't sometimes happen.

Lovelyveg80 · 23/03/2023 16:19

. It was a major lodge park in north wales. It was clearly stated in the terms of booking that it would not be suitable for use on the first night.

it is not any more in hoeseasons terms and in fact hoeseasons in rhyll is pulled apart for dirtiness including hot tub on Trip advisors

so not detailing. Clarifying a point a poster, you made

rookiemere · 23/03/2023 18:30

This is such a bizarre thread.

Many people drive 2 hrs for a 2 night break.

Most people assume that the amenities they have paid for - a cot and a hot tub - will be working and available, without having to do a full inventory the minute you arrive in the lodge.

I'd expect a refund of cost of cot, but 50% for the hot tub as even of they filled it the next morning it wouldn't be warm for use until very late in the day.

What happened in the end OP?

Tealsofa · 23/03/2023 21:57

rookiemere · 23/03/2023 18:30

This is such a bizarre thread.

Many people drive 2 hrs for a 2 night break.

Most people assume that the amenities they have paid for - a cot and a hot tub - will be working and available, without having to do a full inventory the minute you arrive in the lodge.

I'd expect a refund of cost of cot, but 50% for the hot tub as even of they filled it the next morning it wouldn't be warm for use until very late in the day.

What happened in the end OP?

you would eyeball if you had a cot or not, maybe not so much the hottub water - but a cot would be bloody obvious if it was not there

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 23/03/2023 22:24

Rightly or wrongly, I'm guessing that a lot of places consider that the presence of the chemicals eliminates the need to change the water every time between guests. After all, public swimming pools don't drain and refill for every customer (and likely not even every day).

rookiemere · 24/03/2023 06:43

@Tealsofa the bedrooms may have been upstairs, so not immediately visible that it was lacking.

Anyway how is this in any way the OPs fault, even if she didn't go round with her checklist the minute she arrived ? She paid the extra £20 for a cot, therefore a cot should have been provided.

BrowniesnotBlondies · 24/03/2023 07:05

We stayed in the most beautiful cottage in Bedd Gellert with a wood fired hot tub. The owner came over (with our agreement) every 3-4 days to drain the water and refill it. <sighs with happy memories> misses point of thread

pavillion1 · 24/03/2023 07:49

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 23/03/2023 22:24

Rightly or wrongly, I'm guessing that a lot of places consider that the presence of the chemicals eliminates the need to change the water every time between guests. After all, public swimming pools don't drain and refill for every customer (and likely not even every day).

Errrrr you do realise swimming pools hardly ever get drained ??? even after bodily mishaps . you knew that right ?🙈

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 24/03/2023 09:38

Errrrr you do realise swimming pools hardly ever get drained ??? even after bodily mishaps . you knew that right ?

Correct - that's exactly what I was confirming (albeit hyperbolically).

PeanutButterOnTheGrain · 24/03/2023 09:48

This reply has been deleted

The OP is a troll so we've removed their threads to avoid you wasting your time.

Movinghouseatlast · 24/03/2023 12:18

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 23/03/2023 22:24

Rightly or wrongly, I'm guessing that a lot of places consider that the presence of the chemicals eliminates the need to change the water every time between guests. After all, public swimming pools don't drain and refill for every customer (and likely not even every day).

Swimming pools have a very different filtration and pump system. The BISHTA guidelines are clear that hot tubs have to be changed after every guest because in this type of setting the chemicals are not powerful enough due to the smaller volume of water.

Tealsofa · 24/03/2023 12:41

Tealsofa · 23/03/2023 21:57

you would eyeball if you had a cot or not, maybe not so much the hottub water - but a cot would be bloody obvious if it was not there

and secondly I always check the extras when I get a room - as they are the things most likely to be missed