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Mommymoments · 22/03/2023 20:58

@twitterexile After what went down in Scotland I think they'll have to take appropriate action.

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Cas112 · 22/03/2023 21:03

@twitterexile I didn't send him to prison.. I think he should be in a male prison🤷🏽‍♀️

Cas112 · 22/03/2023 21:04

@Mommymoments I agree

sst1234 · 22/03/2023 21:06

Yeah but it’s progressive, innit.

strawberry2017 · 22/03/2023 21:06

If you have a penis you belong in a me prison - simple
I'm sick of this bullshit where a man can grow his hair, change his name and clothes and all of a sudden we are supposed to see them as a women?
It's absolutely ridiculous

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NalafromtheLionKing · 22/03/2023 21:09

Sunriseinwonderland · 22/03/2023 18:04

Why isn't this man in a secure psychiatric hospital?

100%.

twitterexile · 22/03/2023 22:29

Interesting lack of male centred transwomenarewomen cheerleaders tonight isn't there?

TheKeatingFive · 22/03/2023 22:33

Crickets

SixPenny · 22/03/2023 22:42

Oh well, this is what happens when you allow folk to mess about with their bodies.

DuesToTheDirt · 22/03/2023 22:42

I've only just realised he is getting a sentence of a mere FIVE AND A HALF YEARS! Why? How? What?!!!

frazzled1 · 22/03/2023 22:50

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/barbie-kardashian-and-irelands-trans-madness/
Good article in The Spectator.
Why are politicians so incapable of answering basic questions about biology? Yesterday it was Taoiseach Leo Varadkar’s turn. A journalist asked him a yes or no question: ‘Do you believe that Barbie Kardashian is a woman?’ Barbie Kardashian, whose birth name was Gabrielle Alejandro Gentile, is a violent man who identifies as a woman. Last week he was sentenced to five-and-a-half years in jail – a women’s jail – for threatening to torture, rape and murder his own mother. He is, as the journalist who cornered Varadkar put it, ‘a violent biological male with a penis’.

So what was Varadkar’s answer to this easiest of questions? This was a straightforward query as to whether a person who was born male and has male genitalia and who issues violent threats against women is, as he claims, a woman. It wasn’t ‘No’. It wasn’t ‘Yes’, either. The questions seems to have stumped Ireland’s leader, which is bizarre given he studied medicine at Trinity College Dublin. Varadkar answered with a short, awkward silence followed by this statement: ‘Well, look, I, I, I, I don’t, I actually don’t know anything about the case yet, I saw, I first saw it reported at the weekend, erm, and, and, I’m going to have look into it.’

Look into it? All the facts were right there in front of him. The journalist laid them out. What’s more, if Varadkar had already heard about the case, at the weekend, that means he had plenty of time to come to the same conclusion that every other rational person in Ireland has come to: that this man is a man. That this biological male, who made vile threats against his own mum, is a bloke. And, furthermore, that he has absolutely no place in a women’s prison. Varadkar’s shirking of reason – presumably because he’s terrified of being targeted by hardline trans activists – was an embarrassment. He let down the women of Ireland. This is his Sturgeon moment.

To be fair to Varadkar, he did respond more sensibly to the follow-up question on whether he thinks violent biological men should be put in women’s prisons. ‘No, I don’t, quite frankly,’ he said. ‘If a situation that arose in Scotland has now arisen in Ireland,’ he said (referencing the notorious case of the female-identifying Scottish rapist Isla Bryson, who was initially put in a women’s prison before being moved to a male jail), ‘then we’re going to have to deal with it in a similar way.’ That’s promising. But huge questions still lurk. Including the question of why a clever, well-educated Taoiseach cannot say that an individual who threatened to use his penis to rape a woman is a man.

A man whose crime was to plot the atrocious torture and murder of a woman is being housed with women

The Barbie Kardashian case is deeply disturbing. Kardashian was convicted of seven counts of threatening to kill or cause serious harm to his mother. He hatched a plan to go to his mother’s house and overpower her with a knife, a screwdriver and boiling water. The judge described him as ‘unrepentant’ about his vile matricidal ideations. Perversely, Kardashian has been placed in the women’s section of Limerick prison. A man whose crime was to plot the atrocious torture and murder of a woman is being housed with women. This is a new low in the Irish state’s embrace of the transgender ideology.

It is nothing short of psychotic that someone like Kardashian has been put in a jail that will have many inmates who have experienced male violence. Gardai told Limerick Circuit Court that Kardashian poses a ‘significant threat’ to ‘the wider public’. One source told the Irish Mirror that Kardashian is considered ‘one of the most dangerous inmates in the system’. Prison authorities believe he is ‘far too dangerous’ to be allowed out to ‘interact with anyone else’, so he is currently in isolation. Apparently he’s taken out for one hour of exercise a day, during which he has to be ‘unlocked by several staff, as she [sic] poses that much of a threat’.

What madness is this? It’s like putting a fox in a henhouse and keeping a close eye on it to make sure it doesn’t attack the hens. Let’s be clear about what is happening here: the emotional and physical safety of female prisoners is being sacrificed to the narcissistic needs of a man who thinks he’s a woman. Kardashian’s desire to be treated as a woman is being elevated above the right of actual women not to be locked up with a violent man. The validation of this man’s gender identity is considered more important than the security of the women in Limerick’s prison estate. The reorganisation of the prison around flattering the identity of a dangerous man is a disgrace. It is state-endorsed misogyny.

Indeed, it is striking how much New Ireland – post-Catholic, politically correct – resembles Old Ireland. The religion might have changed – back then the state was beholden to old-world Catholicism, now it’s enamoured with the new religion of identity politics – but it is still women who lose out. In the past, the ruling ideology dictated that women should be incarcerated, in so-called laundries, if they committed sins of the flesh. Now the new ruling ideology, the furious insistence that every gender identity be respected and validated, dictates that women will sometimes have to be incarcerated with violent males, whether they like it or not. Then and now, ideological zealotry overpowers reason and subjugates the rights of women to the whims of men.

The Irish state and the Irish media need to get a grip. It is surely a type of delirium that media outlets are running with headlines like ‘Woman jailed for… threats to murder her mother’, and that so many in the Irish elite accept that Kardashian is literally a woman. Let us hope Kardashian is removed from Limerick Women’s prison with extreme urgency. But even then, Varadkar will have to answer the question that was put to him yesterday. Is Barbie Kardashian a woman: yes or no?

Barbie Kardashian and Ireland’s trans madness

Why are politicians so incapable of answering basic questions about biology? Yesterday it was Taoiseach Leo Varadkar’s turn. A journalist asked him a yes or no question: ‘Do you believe that Barbie Kardashian is a woman?’ Barbie Kardashian, whose birth...

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/barbie-kardashian-and-irelands-trans-madness

Megjobethamy · 22/03/2023 22:57

I have not heard anything about this and I live in Munster.. absolutely horrific!

DandyMandy · 22/03/2023 23:10

This male is British and should be slung back to England to serve time in a male English prison. Irish women shouldn't have to deal with this. He has nothing to do with us but we're the ones who will suffer. He's England's problem but they're refusing to deal with him.

StayBased · 22/03/2023 23:12

DandyMandy · 22/03/2023 23:10

This male is British and should be slung back to England to serve time in a male English prison. Irish women shouldn't have to deal with this. He has nothing to do with us but we're the ones who will suffer. He's England's problem but they're refusing to deal with him.

Portuguese actually. Didn’t realise the Republic tried to deport him?

Mommymoments · 22/03/2023 23:12

No he's Venezuelan..

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DandyMandy · 22/03/2023 23:16

StayBased · 22/03/2023 23:12

Portuguese actually. Didn’t realise the Republic tried to deport him?

I thought he might be because of the name, but I'm pretty sure he grew up in England. Either way he should be thrown back to where he came from and kept away from women.

StayBased · 22/03/2023 23:17

Mommymoments · 22/03/2023 23:12

No he's Venezuelan..

I take it back. I’m just waiting for @DandyMandy to tell us about the refused deportation attempt to England

Mommymoments · 22/03/2023 23:20

With all the resistence starting to kick off I wonder if Paul Murphy TD will regret introducing his beautiful new baby Juniper as they /them.. Poor mite, what a cruel introduction to the world..

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gazpachosoupday · 23/03/2023 00:11

I have thought that the reason why so many people are now backtracking, is that as people have posted, they went in hard with the TWAW and are now finding it difficult to backtrack. I remember when I first peaked, it was over sport, which is when I started to do some research on what it might mean.

Politicans, especially went in with it and despite warnings, continued. They used words such as unlikely to happen, it will be very rare and each time something has happened. I have thought, how many more women are going to get hurt, raped or killed and get told its rare, they were not really trans or the other bullshit they come out with, to explain why they cant be possibly be wrong.

I am sure this person will be moved to a man's prison, words will be said, to smooth it over, till the next incident that will happen and it will keep happening, till it really starts to effect men, especially those in charge.

carolexx · 23/03/2023 00:25

This is a truly awful situation. However I hate how these awful people that do things such as this end up creating a bad image for genuine transgender people, my children who have lgbtqia+ friends have expressed dislike similar to mine for creeps that claim to be trans like this person, it creates an unfair viewpoint in actual transgender people its awfulZ

BreakfastAtHeathrowTheBeerAndTheVino · 23/03/2023 00:28

If Barbie was in a male prison would Barbie be in solitary confinement there? Or is Barbie only a risk in a female prison?

EddyF · 23/03/2023 00:46

What kind of fucked up name is Barbie Kardashian?

What is his story with his mother? Shouldn’t he be in a psychiatric hospital?

DdraigGoch · 23/03/2023 06:36

carolexx · 23/03/2023 00:25

This is a truly awful situation. However I hate how these awful people that do things such as this end up creating a bad image for genuine transgender people, my children who have lgbtqia+ friends have expressed dislike similar to mine for creeps that claim to be trans like this person, it creates an unfair viewpoint in actual transgender people its awfulZ

Tenth rule of misogyny:

The worst thing about male violence is that it makes men look bad.

The TWAW cheerleaders are responsible for this situation. "Acceptance without exception", "people are who they say they are" "die TERF bigot"...

Mommymoments · 23/03/2023 07:02

@DdraigGoch bigotry goes two ways.. They are women haters & have womenphobia. They fight back needs to happen for the sake of our poor daughters

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