Aibu to think this man should not be in a women's prison. Barbie Kardashian. Frightening future for Irish women.

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https://gript.ie/barbie-kardashian-is-an-extremely-violent-biological-man-the-law-facilitating-him-must-be-changed

Thanks, I wasn't asking about BK's character, just his sex.

I find it really interesting that instead of just answering whether he's a man or a woman in a straightforward way you have instead invoked the category, 'vile, violent men' / 'absolutely toxic men'.

Why is it so hard to just say he is a man?

https://extra.ie/2022/09/09/news/transgender-gaa-player-speaks-out

The Irish GAA have allowed this man below who calls himself a trans woman play on ladies football teams. No transitioning surgery, hormones, clothes, make up nothing. He has such little respect for women that he won't even attempt to look feminine. He just wants the physical advantage of playing on a ladies team. And the women haters in power gave him his wish.

That article is struggling though...

"Transgender GAA player Giulia Valentino has broken her silence after a controversy erupted when a referee said she couldn't continue playing because of her biological gender."

WTF is a biological gender?

Old article, I posted for his image. The GAA have since allowed trans to play.

I've said this before, but when BK was in court before there was a video on Twitter of a group of young girls treating Barbie as if Barbie was a popstar. They were cheering Barbie's arrival. Like Barbie was a popstar. Young girls. Think about that for a while.

@BreakfastAtHeathrowTheBeerAndTheVino like wtf? Did they have a clue as to what he did & is capable of? Or did they just think the name was cute... Either way dispicable.

I expect this will get deleted, it's very disturbing reading.
Barbie Kardashian: The Full Story | Gript (archive.is)

Wow, my message was hidden as soon as I pressed post!

@BreakfastAtHeathrowTheBeerAndTheVino wow. So far this week mumsnet have been really good & all the threads have stayed up with little to no post deletions..

It’s called Paddy’s Podcast. Season 2, episodes 1 & 4. The whole podcast is fascinating actually.

@Lolaandbehold thank you, will look it up.

He’s a man, but he’s a particularly violent man in a women’s prison who targets women. If he was a man in a women’s prison serving a sentence for fraud or tax evasion, it would be an entirely different story, wouldn’t it? He’d be sitting there, a danger to nobody but we’re speaking specifically about a very dangerous and violent man, which cannot be ignored.

He shouldn't be in a women's prison with a penis.

If he was a man in a women’s prison serving a sentence for fraud or tax evasion, it would be an entirely different story, wouldn’t it?

Just what is your rationale for letting men into women's prisons? Spell it out.

Let me guess: "it's what they want, therefore they should have it".

Doesn't matter whether they are incarcerated for a non violent crime. The females shouldn't have to be distressed by sharing showers etc with males.

@Rainbowshit it's a complete non story in Ireland. Censorship at its finest.

Men shouldn’t be in women’s prisons but men that are violent towards women especially shouldn’t be. It’s one thing to have a man sit silently in solitary confinement but it’s another level to have one that specifically targets women, verbally abusing female prisoners. I’ve never suggested otherwise. I’m merely pointing out the illogical fallacy of claiming the Burke family as pro-women.

Any normal, decent Irish person is going to be against the actions of both Barbie Kardashian and the Burke family. They’re both utterly disgusting ideologies to support.

You can try to play this off as me supporting men in women’s prisons or being a supporter of Barbie Kardashian, but this is clearly very much about you being supportive of a family of right-wing nutjobs so bad that the Westboro Baptist Church have condemned them. I actually didn’t think that anyone could sink so low.

Or without it.

No it wouldn't be 'an entirely different story'. He would still be a man in a women's prison where he did not belong.

It's not enough to say he probably won't physically attack female inmates. It ignores the psychological harm and distress and the loss of dignity for female inmates who are made to share with males.

And the vast majority of sexually violent men are never even arrested, let alone charged, let alone convicted, let alone imprisoned. Just because he got caught for fraud or tax evasion that does not mean he has not committed violence against women or would not do so given the opportunities and stresses of prison.

After all, one of the reasons we have single sex spaces in the first place is because we can't tell which men are dangerous and which are not so we keep them all out.

As soon as you say one category of men especially should not be in women's prisons you weaken the argument that none of them should be there. You make it seem like it wouldn't be so bad if some kinds of men were housed there.

this is clearly very much about you being supportive of a family of right-wing nutjobs so bad that the Westboro Baptist Church have condemned them. I actually didn’t think that anyone could sink so low.

Can you please clarify who you are talking about here? I haven't mentioned the Burkes at all in my posts. I don't think many posters have expressed 'support' for them. I'd love to be able to say I didn't think that anyone could sink so low as to smear people like this but frankly it's just normal TRA behaviour which is perhaps why some of us are having trouble working out your intentions.

Incidentally, while I'm no fan of EB's views and I think he has behaved like a dick, no, I would not place him in the same category as a man who ripped off a woman's eyelids, who has a string of convictions for violent assault, including sexual assault, and who is serving a sentence for seven counts of threatening to kill, rape and torture his own mother.

Unless the category is simply 'men' of course.

Bumping up Barbie Lad for the weekend.. Up ya go Alejandro 👆

Barbie Kardasian should of course be in a male prison, to be honest I think he should be in a psychiatric institution as he is deeply damaged, but he is being held separately from the rest of the female prison population.

It's a dreadful situation but not as bad as some are painting it - he's not mixing with female prisoners.

Ditto. G'wan Barbie ya good thing . We can't leave you trapped in the murky gloom !

They can do the exact same with him in a men's prison, keep him in solitary confinement.
But that's against his & his penises rights which is why he's in a women's prison.

Women's rights in Ireland count for fuck all. Those poor women prisoners & wardens in Limerick