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OneLongSmorgasbord · 23/03/2023 14:10

Funny how the usual TWAW cheerleaders haven't arrived to call us all bigots yet.

How don't they understand that when Barbie Kardashian and Isla Bryson get out of prison in a few years, they'll be able to enter toilets/changing rooms/hospital wards with them and their daughters?
It's insane that people actually argue that it's OK for any male to enter female spaces as long as they have a special thought in their head.
The trouble is, it starts with being polite about pronouns and going along with that troubled child that thinks wearing a skirt makes him a girl, and this is the endpoint... male rapists locked up with women.

704703hey · 23/03/2023 14:11

It's frightening

Mommymoments · 23/03/2023 14:13

OneLongSmorgasbord · 23/03/2023 14:10

Funny how the usual TWAW cheerleaders haven't arrived to call us all bigots yet.

How don't they understand that when Barbie Kardashian and Isla Bryson get out of prison in a few years, they'll be able to enter toilets/changing rooms/hospital wards with them and their daughters?
It's insane that people actually argue that it's OK for any male to enter female spaces as long as they have a special thought in their head.
The trouble is, it starts with being polite about pronouns and going along with that troubled child that thinks wearing a skirt makes him a girl, and this is the endpoint... male rapists locked up with women.

That's exactly it. We need to act on behalf of our daughters now to ensure this absolutely cannot happen.

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TheKeatingFive · 23/03/2023 14:16

Funny how the usual TWAW cheerleaders haven't arrived to call us all bigots yet.

There was at least one half assed attempt

StephanieSuperpowers · 23/03/2023 14:20

TheKeatingFive · 23/03/2023 14:16

Funny how the usual TWAW cheerleaders haven't arrived to call us all bigots yet.

There was at least one half assed attempt

Yeah, I've seen some she's in solitary confinement, what more do you want, you monster! around twitter.

MarshaBradyo · 23/03/2023 14:23

StephanieSuperpowers · 23/03/2023 14:20

Yeah, I've seen some she's in solitary confinement, what more do you want, you monster! around twitter.

Oh well he can go to the male prison then

He once more to override that Twitter rubbish of she

Pseudonamed · 23/03/2023 14:29

StephanieSuperpowers · 23/03/2023 14:20

Yeah, I've seen some she's in solitary confinement, what more do you want, you monster! around twitter.

For HIM to be in solitary confinement in a MALE prison as HE is a fucking MAN.

StephanieSuperpowers · 23/03/2023 14:30

MarshaBradyo · 23/03/2023 14:23

Oh well he can go to the male prison then

He once more to override that Twitter rubbish of she

I just want to be super clear that I am not calling him "she", have never, would never.

MarshaBradyo · 23/03/2023 14:33

StephanieSuperpowers · 23/03/2023 14:30

I just want to be super clear that I am not calling him "she", have never, would never.

I assumed it was Twitter language don’t worry

But it is enraging that they use it for a damaged violent males who have nothing to do with women

It really is unbelievable we are meant to accept it

TheKeatingFive · 23/03/2023 14:37

Twitter is also trying to deflect by saying this is the media stirring up 'moral panic' when there are more important things like end of the eviction ban to be worried about.

The fate of female prisoners in Limerick not top of mind for some it would seem

Mommymoments · 23/03/2023 14:37

This scandal cannot go to bed, needs to gain momentum & action needs to be taken. Only acceptable action is to move Alejandro to a male prison where all the other inmates also have penises.

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SofiaSoFar · 23/03/2023 14:46

Mommymoments · 23/03/2023 14:37

This scandal cannot go to bed, needs to gain momentum & action needs to be taken. Only acceptable action is to move Alejandro to a male prison where all the other inmates also have penises.

And they're still men even if they have their cocks cut off.

Once a man always a man.

No one is going to convince me otherwise.

TheKeatingFive · 23/03/2023 14:55

The numbers of TiM who cut their cock off is infinitesimal.

I don't believe any of the men in women's prisons in Ireland have had any surgery or pharmacological interventions at all.

Mommymoments · 23/03/2023 15:00

SofiaSoFar · 23/03/2023 14:46

And they're still men even if they have their cocks cut off.

Once a man always a man.

No one is going to convince me otherwise.

Never a truer word spoken. I couldn't give a rats arse they call me a transphobe or a bigot... My three girls are my concern, protecting them & having them feel safe in spaces that are designated for women only.. There's a meme going around social media of a toilet door with "whatever" on the sign instead of male/female.. They're trying to normalise it & integrate it into our midsets as much as possible.

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Whooyou · 23/03/2023 15:36

What an absolute cunt of a man

Whooyou · 23/03/2023 15:40

Mommymoments · 22/03/2023 18:21

@Justforlaffs womens rights in Ireland are being depleted by the minute. A trans woman gave a speech at university college Dublin on International Women's Day.. It seems to be growing momentum with teenagers here in Ireland it's so sad. Even more frightening that it's being encouraged & enabled by our government.

Can you just imagine the dilemma if this creep raped a female prisoner and they got pregnant. Under Irish rules and regs she wouldn't be allowed to even have an abortion. The (Ireland) country has gone mad

MarshaBradyo · 23/03/2023 15:49

I seem to remember a time on mn when using the correct term men got a deletion

He is a violent male I feel like this can’t be said enough

Mommymoments · 23/03/2023 15:50

@Whooyou you can get your bottom dollar it wouldn't be reported on either. Would be a huge cover up.
They'd go to the ends of the earth to protect BK over biological women. And that's a fact seeing as they placed him & his penis in a women's prison in the very first instance.

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Mommymoments · 23/03/2023 15:51

MarshaBradyo · 23/03/2023 15:49

I seem to remember a time on mn when using the correct term men got a deletion

He is a violent male I feel like this can’t be said enough

I think mumsnet hq are sick of this shit too. Women's rights are being trampled on by these "she-men" & their sympathisers.

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MurkyGloom · 23/03/2023 16:17

Cheerleading for Enoch Burke is shameful. The Burke family are fundamental Christian nut jobs that have been criticised by the Westboro Baptist Church for going too far. If that doesn’t tell you everything that you need to know, Google them. Here’s a taste: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/coroner-s-court/burke-family-members-removed-from-court-at-end-of-sally-maaz-inquest-1.4850064

Enoch is in trouble because he physically assaulted a School Principal, not because he took a stance on transgenderism. He’s a crackpot who is absolutely not on women’s side, especially with his religious leanings,

Barbie Kardashian is an extremely dangerous individual who isn’t likely to see freedom again. It appears to me that a long term psychiatric hold is the most likely outcome, which is why the brave politicians can safely say that men shouldn’t be housed in a women’s prison.

Burke family members removed from court at end of Sally Maaz inquest

Outburst followed verdict by coroner that teenager had died of natural causes

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/coroner-s-court/burke-family-members-removed-from-court-at-end-of-sally-maaz-inquest-1.4850064

TheKeatingFive · 23/03/2023 16:20

Barbie Kardashian is an extremely dangerous individual who isn’t likely to see freedom again. It appears to me that a long term psychiatric hold is the most likely outcome, which is why the brave politicians can safely say that men shouldn’t be housed in a women’s prison.

But that's not what's happened. He's been sentenced to 5 and a half years in Limerick prison.

Enoch is in trouble because he physically assaulted a School Principal, not because he took a stance on transgenderism.

As I've said, I'm no fan of Burke's, but we know now that the head misrepresented events, so I don't think anyone here can have any confidence they have the full story.

TheKeatingFive · 23/03/2023 16:31

Also, it's not just about Barbie. There are two other violent male offenders in women's prisons in Ireland.

Eeve · 23/03/2023 16:31

@Lolaandbehold I've not read the whole thread yet so apologies if you've said, but what was the name of that podcast? I'd be interested in listening.

Farmageddon · 23/03/2023 16:34

For all the people thinking we are faring better than the UK, I disagree.

At least they have 'sex' as a specific protected characteristic in their Equality laws, ours just says 'gender'. And since you can be whatever gender you like it's a bit ridiculous.
Sex is however specifically mentioned in relation to GRCs, making even less sense -

As per the Gender Recognition Act 2015:

Where a gender recognition certificate is issued to a person the person’s gender shall from the date of that issue become for all purposes the preferred gender so that if the preferred gender is the male gender the person’s sex becomes that of a man, and if it is the female gender the person’s sex becomes that of a woman.

Mommymoments · 23/03/2023 16:35

TheKeatingFive · 23/03/2023 16:20

Barbie Kardashian is an extremely dangerous individual who isn’t likely to see freedom again. It appears to me that a long term psychiatric hold is the most likely outcome, which is why the brave politicians can safely say that men shouldn’t be housed in a women’s prison.

But that's not what's happened. He's been sentenced to 5 and a half years in Limerick prison.

Enoch is in trouble because he physically assaulted a School Principal, not because he took a stance on transgenderism.

As I've said, I'm no fan of Burke's, but we know now that the head misrepresented events, so I don't think anyone here can have any confidence they have the full story.

@TheKeatingFive & we're not getting Enoch's side either...

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