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So upset, not sure what to do

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Moonstarssunsky · 20/03/2023 17:04

Posting here for traffic.
I'm not sure what to do over a stray cat I've been feeding etc.

I had my own cat until a few months ago when she sadly passed away. Before she passed however, a stray cat started to visit our garden and play with my cat.

The stray cat 'Tom' was so thin that we'd feed him everyday and provided shelter outside for him. We couldn't get close enough to get him into a cat carrier to take him to the vets.
After our Molly died, Tom became more confident with us and started to come into the house and stay overnight.

He put on weight and started to look healthy again. It was still difficult though trying to entice him into a cat carrier in order to check if he was chipped after all. He.was'nt neutered though, hence why we presumed he wasn't chipped either.
I recently borrowed a different kind of carrier to the one we already had, in the hope that it'd be easier to get Tom into it. Just to say, he's not the type of cat you can pick up easily.

Fast forward to yesterday, I was looking out the window and saw a young man walking past my house carrying Tom tightly in his arms. I ran out to speak to the man and saw that Tom was struggling to get free and was very distressed.
The man claimed that Tom was his cat and that he was taking him home as he hadn't seen him for some time.

I explained that we'd been caring for Tom and were gaining his confidence in us and that we'd love to keep him and get him checked and neutered at the vets.

The man was adamant however that Tom was his family pet, but admitted that he'd not been chipped. He said that his family were going to chip the cat immediately, and added that he'd make Tom into an indoor cat just so that he doesn't try to come back to me and my family.
The man let slip his house number (which was much further down the road) and hurried off with the cat still distressed.

I'm angry at myself for not trying to get Tom out of his arms, but I was concerned about repercussions if I did so. I'm also angry with myself for not ensuring we'd taken Tom to the vets sooner. I've no excuses for that, other than I was trying to gain his trust and needed the right carrier along with help from someone else to force him into the carrier if necessary.
A while after Tom was taken, my Dd and I visited the house where he's at and were told basically to go away (not very politely) once again, and that they'd be keeping the cat inside from now on.

I don't know what to do now. I'd love to offer money for Tom but I don't know whether to leave it for a while, as i.dont want to push things with this family.

They also have a few other cats (according to the going man) and so now I'm so upset that Tom is living with other pets and isn't happy there. If he was he wouldn't have left.
Sorry for rambling.

OP posts:
Rescuedog12 · 22/03/2023 10:16

Why are you happy to break the law? .you can't care for your dog if you haven't bothered to chip.also you won't have been to a vets as they would check the chip at registration.

FanFckingTastic · 22/03/2023 10:17

This thread is something else! Another one here that thinks that you are slightly obsessed OP, and need to understand that this is not your cat. It's not 'Tom' as you call him - he has a name, and a family. You need to go and get your own cat... and then hope to God that someone else doesn't try and feed it and claim it for their own.

VivX · 22/03/2023 10:22

I'm a cat person... I'm definitely slightly bonkers. But I wouldn't feed a cat that isn't my own because invariably, the cat will have an owner and it isn't fair to them.

Also, I do think it is slightly odd behaviour. When I was little, one of my friend's mother would feed the neighbourhood cats because she was convinced they were all mistreated and that's why they were coming to her because she was "saving" them. Of course, the cats would come round even more, which created a self-fulfilling circle.
All of the cats all looked perfectly okay (to my 8 year old self), so this was my first inkling into the possibility that not every adult has critical thinking skills in all areas.

Rescuedog12 · 22/03/2023 10:24

How heartbreaking for you op.he could be telling a lie.without a chip he cannot prove the cats his.the cat obviously didn't want to be with him.from 2024 it will be a legal requirement to chip a cat.lets hope he doesn't bother and the cat escapes.

T1Dmama · 22/03/2023 10:26

I feel for you @Moonstarssunsky,
Its clear you thought you were doing the right thing by the cat, and you were feeling vulnerable after loosing your cat.
I think the issue is that even after someone has claimed the car back, rather than just being sad, the language you’re using sounds very much like you think the cat is legally yours now. I understand you running out to check who the man was carrying Tom…. But try to see it from this families point of view… their cat goes missing for weeks… he sees the cat, scoops it up to take it home and then a woman runs out and starts quizzing him about his cat, it sounds like you’ve asked him if he has proof etc, as he’s felt the need to answer questions such as where he lives, that he’s not microchipped, they have other cars etc… then he’s obviously got angry with your persistence and said they’ll keep Tom indoors to keep you away from him…. And then told you buggar off when you knock the door..
I think people on here are reacting because the language you use is very confrontational… like you thought about grabbing Tom off him, you went round the house, you wish you’d taken him to bets earlier etc (why the vets?? Would you have registered and chipped him as being yours??)
try not to fret over Tom, they won’t keep him him in, I’m sure this was an angry threat because you’d annoyed his owner… hopefully they will get him chipped and neutered now though…
He probably is happier with you, but sadly that doesn’t mean you can claim him.
If Tom turns up again just enjoy him but then send him home, don’t feed him. If he’s skinny again all an animal charity and report the neglect. It might just be though that because he’s not neutered, he’d roamed and got skinny while out on the tiles… let’s hope so… maybe neutering will solve this!
Its also possible that your perception of what a ‘skinny’ cat is, is in fact a vets perception of a perfect cat… the amount of fat dogs I see out on walks amazes me… the owners can’t possibly think they’re dogs are a healthy size but they do! Same with cats… so many roaming around looking like barrels. I’m merely suggesting the cat wasn’t so thin that it’s being abused?? Let’s hope not.
Im sure Tom will be back, maybe pop a note through the owners door apolog and stating that you’d assumed he was a stray and you were helping, and that you won’t feed him again… and stick to it… hopefully he’ll visit for a fuss and then go home to eat. Everyone’s happy!
min the meantime please consider going to a rescue and adopting yourself a cat.
good luck op

GettingThereCharleyBear · 22/03/2023 10:41

@Rescuedog12 that’s a big leap! My cat HATES being picked up, she always has. But when at home she’s perfectly content and affectionate but on her terms. Very normal behaviour for a cat.

Doesthepopeshitinthewoods · 22/03/2023 10:45

I think the real kicker here, OP, which is what is perhaps making posters be a bit robust with you and call you things like ‘unhinged’ (which I do not condone), is that even after this man reclaimed his own cat, you went to his house to try to convince him to let you have the cat. 😳 that is the bit that crosses a lot of lines and isn’t a particularly normal thing to do.

Also, it is widely known that you don’t feed anyone else’s cat unless you’ve taken a decent step to finding out if it has an owner/medical condition - and that is with the widely-publicised paper collar trick. If you’re a cat person, surely you’d know this. How would you feel if someone had fed your cat and tried to lure it away? Livid, I’d imagine. And probably tempted to keep it inside for a bit.

You were vulnerable after your own cat died, and you became fixated on this unneutered male cat. And even after it’s owner took it home, you persisted in pursuing it.

Would you consider just rescuing your own cat? I may have missed it but many people have asked you. You clearly want a cat. And the unneutered one down the road is not the one.

Doesthepopeshitinthewoods · 22/03/2023 10:46

T1Dmama · 22/03/2023 10:26

I feel for you @Moonstarssunsky,
Its clear you thought you were doing the right thing by the cat, and you were feeling vulnerable after loosing your cat.
I think the issue is that even after someone has claimed the car back, rather than just being sad, the language you’re using sounds very much like you think the cat is legally yours now. I understand you running out to check who the man was carrying Tom…. But try to see it from this families point of view… their cat goes missing for weeks… he sees the cat, scoops it up to take it home and then a woman runs out and starts quizzing him about his cat, it sounds like you’ve asked him if he has proof etc, as he’s felt the need to answer questions such as where he lives, that he’s not microchipped, they have other cars etc… then he’s obviously got angry with your persistence and said they’ll keep Tom indoors to keep you away from him…. And then told you buggar off when you knock the door..
I think people on here are reacting because the language you use is very confrontational… like you thought about grabbing Tom off him, you went round the house, you wish you’d taken him to bets earlier etc (why the vets?? Would you have registered and chipped him as being yours??)
try not to fret over Tom, they won’t keep him him in, I’m sure this was an angry threat because you’d annoyed his owner… hopefully they will get him chipped and neutered now though…
He probably is happier with you, but sadly that doesn’t mean you can claim him.
If Tom turns up again just enjoy him but then send him home, don’t feed him. If he’s skinny again all an animal charity and report the neglect. It might just be though that because he’s not neutered, he’d roamed and got skinny while out on the tiles… let’s hope so… maybe neutering will solve this!
Its also possible that your perception of what a ‘skinny’ cat is, is in fact a vets perception of a perfect cat… the amount of fat dogs I see out on walks amazes me… the owners can’t possibly think they’re dogs are a healthy size but they do! Same with cats… so many roaming around looking like barrels. I’m merely suggesting the cat wasn’t so thin that it’s being abused?? Let’s hope not.
Im sure Tom will be back, maybe pop a note through the owners door apolog and stating that you’d assumed he was a stray and you were helping, and that you won’t feed him again… and stick to it… hopefully he’ll visit for a fuss and then go home to eat. Everyone’s happy!
min the meantime please consider going to a rescue and adopting yourself a cat.
good luck op

This is a kind and reasonable response.

xsquared · 22/03/2023 10:50

To be fair OP, if you post in AIBU, then you are unlikely to get many sympathetic responses and I think you knew that.

You may have got slightly more understanding replies had you posted in The Litter Tray, which I find very helpful as a newish cat owner.

I get that you've invested time in Tom and you have grown attached to him, but he has an owner, and you need to respect that.

Why do you doubt that the man is not his owner? Why would someone falsely claim that a pet is theirs especially when you've challenged them? Was he a pedigree breed?

LuvSmallDogs · 22/03/2023 11:45

Just because a cat "adopts" you when given food doesn't mean it is being neglected.

We recently had a cat try to adopt us. It was going between our first floor windowsills and lower flat roof for hours in the cold rain, and as it was small, I was worried that it was an older kitten new to being outside and wasn't confident enough to get itself back down.

We didn't want to leave it overnight, so used a ladder and some ham to grab it. Once I had hold of it, it appeared to just be a very small cat, it was friendly and had a wobbly spayed tummy.

The cheeky fucker kept coming back for over a week wanting to be "rescued" with more ham, and DS1 kept mithering "what if it's a stray, we should keep it" etc while I told him "it's not ours, I only fed it so I could grab it because I thought it was stuck, you can stroke it if it comes to you in the yard but that's it, no food."

Doesthepopeshitinthewoods · 22/03/2023 11:47

xsquared · 22/03/2023 10:50

To be fair OP, if you post in AIBU, then you are unlikely to get many sympathetic responses and I think you knew that.

You may have got slightly more understanding replies had you posted in The Litter Tray, which I find very helpful as a newish cat owner.

I get that you've invested time in Tom and you have grown attached to him, but he has an owner, and you need to respect that.

Why do you doubt that the man is not his owner? Why would someone falsely claim that a pet is theirs especially when you've challenged them? Was he a pedigree breed?

I can’t imagine anyone pretending to claim a pissy spraying unneutered tomcat, frankly. They’re a nightmare.

xsquared · 22/03/2023 11:49

Doesthepopeshitinthewoods · 22/03/2023 11:47

I can’t imagine anyone pretending to claim a pissy spraying unneutered tomcat, frankly. They’re a nightmare.

Exactly.

ThreeRingCircus · 22/03/2023 11:55

Tom is now going to be an indoor cat because his family are worried if they let him out you'll steal him. From their point of view, the fact that you went round and knocked on their door after you'd been told he was their cat and offering to buy him makes them concerned you'll steal him. I think that's a totally reasonable assumption to make given how you've behaved towards them, which isn't in a normal way.

If you're upset about Tom being kept indoors, that's on you I'm afraid. I suggest you rescue your own cat.

niugboo · 22/03/2023 12:02

Are you ok?

You are absolutely trying to steal this mans cat.

3 months ago our cat went missing. 3 weeks later we located her and she was in a really bad way. We later found out that she had been somehow locked in a neighbours garage for a week, she bolted when they opened it and fled in the wrong direction getting lost. Thankfully someone found her and did what you did. Took care of her. They saw one of our many posters and returned her.

My point is you don’t know why the cat was in poor condition. What you do know is it’s not your cat.

Canthave2manycats · 22/03/2023 14:54

sarahh96 · 21/03/2023 18:54

This really grinds my gears.
I know you feel that your are helping but you really are not
He is not your cat!
I've been in a similar situation in as much as my much beloved, elderly cat became very thin and disheveled due to thyroid issues. She also had the start of dementia and was deaf.
A neighbour of ours started feeding her. This just confused her and, as she was on a special diet, made her very unwell.
If the chap says it's his cat, it's his cat.
I understand your concern but feeding other peoples cats is never a good idea.
There are hundreds of cats looking for loving owners in shelters, please have a look

Surely a cat in that condition would be safer indoors, or supervised outside?

Floomobal · 22/03/2023 14:57

ElonsMusky · 20/03/2023 17:25

my dog isn't chipped, nor does he have a serial number to prove he's mine. I'd like to see someone try to take my dog on that basis lol.

The dog warden could take your dog. Totally illegal to not have a dog chipped, assuming you’re in the UK. Any decent vet would report you too

Canthave2manycats · 22/03/2023 15:00

ThreeRingCircus · 22/03/2023 11:55

Tom is now going to be an indoor cat because his family are worried if they let him out you'll steal him. From their point of view, the fact that you went round and knocked on their door after you'd been told he was their cat and offering to buy him makes them concerned you'll steal him. I think that's a totally reasonable assumption to make given how you've behaved towards them, which isn't in a normal way.

If you're upset about Tom being kept indoors, that's on you I'm afraid. I suggest you rescue your own cat.

Don’t underestimate Tom!

Moonstarssunsky · 22/03/2023 15:40

lilyak · 22/03/2023 07:03

You absolutely refuse to see the situation from any other side but your own. And your belief that this cat needs rescuing. I am NOT attacking you, but I believe you need to ask yourself a few questions.

Why are you fixating on this cat? Why don't you get youreslf another cat, you clearly have a lot of love to give. There are many other cats who need a wonderful home, you could give a cat that. Why this cat? Why can't you move on, and find yourself your own cat?

As others have stated, you don't know that cat was mistreated. Lots of cats look skinny, or are temporarily skinny because they are unwell.

You have overwhelmng evidence that most people think what you did/are doing/ is wrong. Your posts says you don't know what to do. Nothing. YOu do nothing. There is no problem, other than what's in your mind. Leave it be. The cat is fine. If he wanted to come to you, he would.

He did NOT choose you. He came to VISIT. There was food. Of couse a cat will come and keep coming if you leave food out.

"After our Molly died, Tom became more confident with us and started to come into the house and stay overnight."

You coaxed him into your house with food. And yet, he still never let you get close to him, pet him, hold him.

If he wanted to let you near, he would have. He did not. I'm sorry, but he wanted the food, and a nice, warm place. Probably glad to be on his own for a bit.

Consider this, if you'd left well enough alone, he could still be visting. This cat is filling a need for you, and you filled a need for him. Nothing more, nothing less.

Why, when he'd put on weight and was healthy, did you want to take him to the vet? To check for a chip? Just curious. Did you make any effort to find his home? Put signs up? put a 'found cat' ad on socials?

"The man claimed that Tom was his cat and that he was taking him home as he hadn't seen him for some time."

The man told you that Tom was his cat, but you didn't want to believe that. Again, no way could this man have caught a cat you've been feeding for a very long time, and you can't catch. Seriously. This is so very obvious, but I understand its hard for you to accept. I'm in no way being nasty, or sarcastic. You just need to see the reality here. You can't even pet this cat. Yet you believe he's better off with you.

"but admitted that he'd not been chipped."

Most cats aren't chipped for goodness sake. It doesn't mean he doesn't love his cat. It doesn't mean the cat isn't his.

"He said that his family were going to chip the cat immediately, and added that he'd make Tom into an indoor cat just so that he doesn't try to come back to me and my family."

Sounds like he was letting you know clearly that you're out of line. Think about it: Tom is now restrained to the house, an indoor cat, becuase YOU tried to keep him. If you'd just let things be, then Tom could still be visiting. But you had to interfere and try to claim him as yours. The owner is afraid you'll take him and now the cat is not allowed out. That's on you. You should have let him take his cat home and been happy for visits.

There's a cat in our neighbourhood now who regularly visits several houses. His name is Jumbo and the owner is quite happy becuse we all just give him a little tidbit, some treats, a meal maybe, and some love (cuddles, pets, play) and then let him go on his way. He's the coolest cat, everyone loves him. Love is not ownership.

"I'm angry at myself for not trying to get Tom out of his arms, but I was concerned about repercussions if I did so."

GOOD! This would have been a completley unreasonable thing to do! Can you not see that? Grabbing the poor cat like that? What then? Lock him in your house forever so he can't go home? He doesn't need rescuing and he is not an object.

"I'm also angry with myself for not ensuring we'd taken Tom to the vets sooner. I've no excuses for that, other than I was trying to gain his trust and needed the right carrier along with help from someone else to force him into the carrier if necessary."

Why on earth should you have taken Tom to the vet? You said he gained weight and looked healthy. He was doing fine. He had a nice thing going, a good home and a nice place to visit. This, again, was not about Tom;s welfare, you thought if he was not chipped that you were justified in claiming him. Being chipped or not chipped makes no difference. He has a home. The whole post reads like are you trying to claim someone else's cat. And what would have happened if he was chipped to you, but chose to go home? A chip is not ownship and why are you fixated with ownership and posession? The cat was well. Did not need vet treatment. You lost Molly, you were in terrible grief. I feel great empathy for you, and that grief. But you must not continue trying to get this cat.

Now, stop and think. Imagine if your Molly was chipped by someone else. Seriously, stop and think about that. How would you feel? How would you feel abuot someone who fed her a bit, and then took her to the vets and had her chipped? You even state you needed someone to force him into the carrier, you were willling to do that. He was no longer thin, he was not injured. Why? And why coudn't you have just let well enough alone? You'd still have him visiting then.

"A while after Tom was taken, my Dd and I visited the house where he's at and were told basically to go away (not very politely) once again, and that they'd be keeping the cat inside from now on."

Now Tom is an indoor cat, and its because of you. 100% your fault, and you have not made his life better. Again, its not about his welfare, its about your wants.

"I don't know what to do now. I'd love to offer money for Tom but I don't know whether to leave it for a while, as i.dont want to push things with this family."

You do nothing. Absolutely nothing. You go and find yourself a beautiful cat, maybe at a shelter, who needs a home. You have a lot of love to give, why not rescue a cat? Offer them MONEY? and you say other people think the cat is an object! Youre objectifying him...treating him like a possession that you must have...first he chose you, now you want to buy him. Why? You are fixated and its not healthy.

"They also have a few other cats (according to the going man) and so now I'm so upset that Tom is living with other pets and isn't happy there. If he was he wouldn't have left."

He did not leave. He roamed. He found food. He found a good deal, a nice place and a meal. Lots of cats live happily with other cats. He did not choose you, as you were never able to get near him. Yet you don't think that's important. YOu have built an entire narrative around this, where he is abused, and you are the hero. Again, just think this through. If you think he is being abused, as others have said, there are proper channels to go through.

And I HAVE been in that position. I cared for a cat for a few months. He was ours, for that time. But he slept on my bed with me, every night. He was my little shadow, that was his name, infact. I work from home and he used to lie on my keyboard, little scamp! I advertised him as found, and months later, the owner claimed him back. Although i missed him, and it hurt, the cat was not mine. I was glad he had a loving home, and I was so happy to return him to his loved ones. I asked if I could keep in touch, now we're facebook friends and I see updates on him from time to time. I do not intrude, I'm happy that this family has let me see him in this way. They are happy I cared for their cat while he was lost. Had you played things differently, Tom might still be visting, and everyone might be happy. I think you should take a moment to think about that.

No cat is an object, but a feeling, sentient creature. Its you who seems to feel Tom is an object - your object. Ownership matters to you. You weren't happy with him visiting, you wanted to make him yours. As if taking him to the vet and chipping him would achieve that.

The cat chose to go with the man. That may be hard, but its true. You can't just dismiss this, no matter how much you'd like to. You have to accept th ere is NO WAY this man could have caught him, when you coudn't catch him after weeks of feeding him. And when you were standing there, contemplating reefing him out of his owners arms, he could have escaped. He didn't.

And if Tom wanted to get out of that house, then Tom would. A cat will escape if he really wants to. He has not come back, maybe he will, in time. Doors get left open, time will go by, they will forget and they will get lax. BUT if he does come back, you should NOT feed him, because now you know he has a family. There is no excuse for that. If he came to you for affection, that would be completely different. You never touched him.

If you genuniely feel that something is wrong, that the cat is in danger, then there are proper channels. Why did you not report to animal welfare? You didn't for a reason...why?

Again, you need to reflect on your behaviour. YOu should ask yourself these questions. I suspect most of this is grief, and understandable from that point of view, but its bad behaviour. Imagine if you had tried to snatch him back? What would have happened? And despite hundreds of people telling you that you're in the wrong, you persist. Why did you post? honestly, what did you expect people to say? YOu keep arguing that you're right, and bring up irrelevant poinst that only serve to show your intent was to keep Tom. And your focus on this cat is not healthy. So again, ask yourself, what is it that's special about this cat? Is it his connection to Molly?

ANd what if someone had adopted Molly. How would you feel then? Cats can be easily tempted with food, we all know this. Its problematic to me that you have no empathy for the other family. You feel they mistreat the cat. But you dont know that. Maybe there's a child at home who cried their eyes out every night for their cat. Would that make a difference to you? Tom is now healthy, as you said. What will it take to assure you that he is OK?

I think you had good intentions, or even have good intentions, but you continue to miss the point. Your long reply has very little to do with it. they are excuses. you were trying to adopt a cat that didn't need adopting. Now please, go and adopt a cat who does desperately need a home.

"Yes the cat HAS spoken. He spoke some time back when he decided he wanted to be with us. He was in walking distance of the other families house, and if he was happiest there he wouldn't have come to me."

NO. He came to visit. Cats do that. They'll keep coming back for food, why woudn't they? He enjoyed the visit. If he chose you, he'd be curled up in your lap. He never let you touch him. How do you rationalise that? And don't you want a cat that WILL love you back? Curl up on your lap, sleep on your bed?

I've also had someone abduct my cat and try to keep him. Its a horrible, horrible thing to experience, and I'd like you to take aminute to think about the owners feelings. It sounds like they treated you very well, considering. But now feel they have to keep their cat indoors, incase you tempt him back again. Imagine how that feels. And again, Tom is now an indoor cat, because of you. Not them. they are afraid of losing him, you taking him. They made that very clear, but you didn't get the message. Now the cat is restricted and confined to the house. take responsiblity for that.

Why are you not happy that the cat has a loving home? A person does not come looking for a cat if they don't love the cat. I think you need to self reflect on why are you so fixated on this cat. Why can't you get yourself another cat? You have a lot of love to give, and there are so many cats who need someone like you.

I haven't read all the posts, but I haven't seen anything nasty. A bit blunt, maybe. But you won't listen. I'm not being nasty. I'm telling you things you need to think about. Most people say you're wrong, yet you persist to argue that you're right. Not even defend yourself, just argue that you're right. YOu don't address the point, just go off on tangents, so fixated are you on this idea that this is your cat. What was your goal was when you posted...what did you think you should do? What were you hoping peope would say?

I should hope its clear you should do nthing. You should enjoy the happy memories, and you should go out this weekend and find yourself your own cat.

Wow, just wow.

The way you've written is as if you know everything about the situation with the cat. You don't.
You've admitted that you've not read all of the thread, yet your lengthy sanctimonious post implies you know it all.
You've repeatedly say that I couldn't 'pet the cat' and that he wouldn't let me near him.
Yet, if you'd actually read my posts you'll see that AT FIRST I couldn't really get near him, as he was a bit skittish.

But as time has gone on of course I've been able to stroke him and he'd sleep on my bed with me and lay by my side on the sofa.
I've never said that I couldn't stroke him when he became close to us. You're ASSUMING this to be the case, and wrongly so.
Do you seriously think that I'd have a cat sleeping in my house who I couldn't get near?

Again, if you'd read my posts you'll see why it was difficult to get him in a carrier, but he became close to me still. If you read other people's posts, you'll see that cats can be difficult to get in s carrier.

You ASSUME (again wrongly) that I only wanted to take him to the vets to get him chipped and claim ownership. Again, you're wrong.
My main focus of taking him to the vet was for a health check and to get him neutered. And of course to have him chipped, but that wasn't the priority.

You're wrong that Tom just came to visit for food. He was happy to stay with me, and as I've said, he allowed me to stroke him once he was comfortable.
Also, if you'd actually READ the thread, you'll see that I did try and find if he had an owner, although I seriously thought he was a stray because of how he was.
If you'd READ the thread properly, you would see why I went to the house.

You're obviously one of those posters who probably read a few pages or a few posts and start tapping away with your daft statements.

So, all in all, you've written an essay and sound a right know all. Yet You know nothing.

OP posts:
Moonstarssunsky · 22/03/2023 15:46

niugboo · 22/03/2023 12:02

Are you ok?

You are absolutely trying to steal this mans cat.

3 months ago our cat went missing. 3 weeks later we located her and she was in a really bad way. We later found out that she had been somehow locked in a neighbours garage for a week, she bolted when they opened it and fled in the wrong direction getting lost. Thankfully someone found her and did what you did. Took care of her. They saw one of our many posters and returned her.

My point is you don’t know why the cat was in poor condition. What you do know is it’s not your cat.

I'm ok thanks, are you?🙄

Have you not read my posts? I'm NOT TRYING TO STEAL THE CAT.

Fgs, how many more times must I explain.

OP posts:
niugboo · 22/03/2023 15:51

Stealing is by definition taking something that isn’t yours. That’s absolutely what you’ve been trying to. Not only have you been doing that but you seem to think you have some entitlement to said cat.

also. Never feed animals that aren’t yours.

Moonstarssunsky · 22/03/2023 15:52

niugboo · 22/03/2023 15:51

Stealing is by definition taking something that isn’t yours. That’s absolutely what you’ve been trying to. Not only have you been doing that but you seem to think you have some entitlement to said cat.

also. Never feed animals that aren’t yours.

Ok please clarify EXACTLY how I've been trying to steal him..

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User678945 · 22/03/2023 15:58

I feel for the poor cat.

It's irresponsible to get a cat and not microchip it, not feed it properly, not neuter it and then cruel to lock it indoors after it's been used to going outside. It might not be the OP's cat but the man who owns it doesn't sound great. And if the cat still isn't neutered and locked indoors it will be spraying urine everywhere.

AdInfinitum12 · 22/03/2023 15:59

You have literally just admitted you planned to take him to the vets for a health check, neutering and to be chipped. You were trying to get a cat chipped with your details that you KNEW was not your cat. What part of that isn't trying to steal the cat?

I don't believe you put flyers through doors anyway so that's a moot point, but in this day and age I doubt anyone finds a cat and doesn't post on a local Facebook page or calls a cat charity. Just admit it OP.. you missed your Molly, found a cat you thought you could keep and that's the end of it.

You've said the cat would sleep on your bed and let you stroke it, doesn't sound like you tried very hard to get them into a cat carrier and take them to the vets. Not if their actual owner managed to pick Tom up off the street. Cats may not enjoy going into a carrier but it's not impossible, you just didn't want to find out if he belonged to someone already.
The fact you put so little effort in getting him to the vets to check for an owner suggests to me that you didn't really care that you'd taken this cat, was playing happy cat owner again with no regard for the family missing him is disgraceful. There are many reasons cats look skinny but none of them for your narrative, you just want to believe he was a stray and made little effort to the contrary.

ladydimitrescu · 22/03/2023 16:02

The real question is what do you plan to do now, op? Have you accepted that Tom will be staying with his owners?

Moonstarssunsky · 22/03/2023 16:07

AdInfinitum12 · 22/03/2023 15:59

You have literally just admitted you planned to take him to the vets for a health check, neutering and to be chipped. You were trying to get a cat chipped with your details that you KNEW was not your cat. What part of that isn't trying to steal the cat?

I don't believe you put flyers through doors anyway so that's a moot point, but in this day and age I doubt anyone finds a cat and doesn't post on a local Facebook page or calls a cat charity. Just admit it OP.. you missed your Molly, found a cat you thought you could keep and that's the end of it.

You've said the cat would sleep on your bed and let you stroke it, doesn't sound like you tried very hard to get them into a cat carrier and take them to the vets. Not if their actual owner managed to pick Tom up off the street. Cats may not enjoy going into a carrier but it's not impossible, you just didn't want to find out if he belonged to someone already.
The fact you put so little effort in getting him to the vets to check for an owner suggests to me that you didn't really care that you'd taken this cat, was playing happy cat owner again with no regard for the family missing him is disgraceful. There are many reasons cats look skinny but none of them for your narrative, you just want to believe he was a stray and made little effort to the contrary.

For the love of God.

I was NOT PLANNING TO GET A CAT CHIPPED KNOWING HE HAD AN OWNER!

I was planning to get him chipped and neutered NOT KNOWING he had an owner. I believed he was a stray.

Has this sunk in?
If not, please just go away.

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