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To be gobsmacked at Kate Ferdinand complaining about not getting a Mother’s Day card from her then-boyfriend Rio’s children

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AngeloMysterioso · 17/03/2023 17:14

When she’d only been living with them six months, and moved in when they’d been together less than a year?! And their own actual mother had died of cancer?

I get that she was already taking a great deal of care of them and would have appreciated some acknowledgment of that, but this is just taking the piss.

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minou123 · 17/03/2023 23:08

AngeloMysterioso · 17/03/2023 22:57

Interesting that nobody has attempted to answer this one…

Because we can't answer it. As far as I know, nione of us are Kate Ferdinand, so we don't know.

Why are you so keen on portraying her as a horrible person?
What has she done to you?

You have now changed your tune and said she wasn't being unreasonable to want some acknowledgement from Rio for eveything she was doing- so what's your problem now?

Birdsbirdsbirds · 17/03/2023 23:09

Eyerollcentral · 17/03/2023 23:01

You genuinely seem to, your response to the things I have said are so OTT and you have repeatedly accused me of having a problem with step parents, despite me telling you I have a sister who is a step mother, that I have a close relationship with her step children and that I know first hand the difficulties taking on someone else’s children. BTW my sister was a full time step mother too, the children’s mother had abandoned them and my sister and her husband had full custody so I think I have a good idea of how children who have lost their mother feel and behave, because to all extents and purposes those children had lost their mother. The things you have said to me are actually deeply offensive, particularly because of the extent of my involvement in the children’s lives and the closeness of our relationships. But I don’t take it personally because you are just some angry woman posting on this board. I haven’t said anything personally offensive to you but you repeatedly chosen to say grossly offensive things to me.

You have said personally offensive things and they have subsequently been deleted.

I don't doubt you don't know or like the kids. I doubt you act this way in person with your sister, and I doubt she knows your real feelings about women like her. If you're offended by that, perhaps it's because there is some truth to it.

You've come in her all guns blazing, making things up, being frankly really horrible, insinuating it must be me that has unresolved issues, when it's not just me that's called out your abhorrent behaviour. We can see you for what you are.

Eyerollcentral · 17/03/2023 23:12

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What qualifies that opinion? Medical degree? Professional troll? Phd in internet bullying?

Birdsbirdsbirds · 17/03/2023 23:16

Do the other posters have unresolved issues as well then?

AngeloMysterioso · 17/03/2023 23:18

minou123 · 17/03/2023 23:08

Because we can't answer it. As far as I know, nione of us are Kate Ferdinand, so we don't know.

Why are you so keen on portraying her as a horrible person?
What has she done to you?

You have now changed your tune and said she wasn't being unreasonable to want some acknowledgement from Rio for eveything she was doing- so what's your problem now?

Acknowledgment- sure.

Acknowledgment in the form of a card on Mother’s Day, when the children’s mother is dead and she’s still very much new on the scene in general and has only lived there 6 months… not so sure about that one.

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Lolabear38 · 17/03/2023 23:21

NurseCranesRolodex · 17/03/2023 17:32

Horrible, vacuous narcissist.
Rio was obviously in a bad place when she got the claws in and hung on for dear life. If she has produced her own DC I wouldn't hold out hope for the original dc getting a look in. She seemed to be v pushy at the time, sainting herself all over the media at a time that should have been about his protecting and helping his dc heal from the loss of their Mum.

@NurseCranesRolodex
what a mean, unpleasant and vicious post about someone you (presumably) don’t know. You don’t have to like what she’s said nor agree with it but by gosh have you shown your true colours here. Awful.

minou123 · 17/03/2023 23:22

AngeloMysterioso · 17/03/2023 23:18

Acknowledgment- sure.

Acknowledgment in the form of a card on Mother’s Day, when the children’s mother is dead and she’s still very much new on the scene in general and has only lived there 6 months… not so sure about that one.

And in the same breathe she acknowledged she was being selfish for those thoughts.

What more do you want from her?

Birdsbirdsbirds · 17/03/2023 23:23

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You have both bullied and trolled. Your offensive posts have been deleted. Are you denying that? We can see it.

I don't think they would, because your views are backwards and abhorrent.

There's nothing to get over, i just don't appreciate being "diagnosed" by someone who has not got one single fucking clue. Someone who has not been in this situation. Someone who lacks understanding and empathy. It is offensive. It's unwarranted.

Birdsbirdsbirds · 17/03/2023 23:25

And again, this is not a "me" issue. I'm not the only one who has called you out. It's very much a "you" issue. You don't need to be a step mother to see what is wrong with your posts.

Eyerollcentral · 17/03/2023 23:29

Birdsbirdsbirds · 17/03/2023 23:23

You have both bullied and trolled. Your offensive posts have been deleted. Are you denying that? We can see it.

I don't think they would, because your views are backwards and abhorrent.

There's nothing to get over, i just don't appreciate being "diagnosed" by someone who has not got one single fucking clue. Someone who has not been in this situation. Someone who lacks understanding and empathy. It is offensive. It's unwarranted.

I didn’t know any posts had been deleted tbh. I didn’t say anything offensive so I don’t know why they were. Posts can be deleted for a lot of reasons on this site. What about my views are abhorrent? Don’t go out with a man w kids if you don’t want to be a stepmother isn’t an abhorrent sentiment.

Lolabear38 · 17/03/2023 23:29

I got one page into this thread and to be honest it’s horrible. Absolutely horrible. To be honest I wouldn’t have said what Kate Ferdinand said, but I definitely don’t think she deserves some of the horrendous and vitriolic judgement she’s had on here.

How many of you can I ask have shared ‘be kind’ posts and memes over the years? Where are they now?

How many of you would eviscerate a poster who’s talked about being a bully in the past?

Those of you who have posted such nasty and mean comments should be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves.

It’s pathetic.

I haven’t RTFT as it’s too awful, but I have to hope that not all the replies are as unkind.

Birdsbirdsbirds · 17/03/2023 23:32

Eyerollcentral · 17/03/2023 23:29

I didn’t know any posts had been deleted tbh. I didn’t say anything offensive so I don’t know why they were. Posts can be deleted for a lot of reasons on this site. What about my views are abhorrent? Don’t go out with a man w kids if you don’t want to be a stepmother isn’t an abhorrent sentiment.

Nope that's not what's abhorrent. What's abhorrent is saying step mother's shouldn't be allowed to complain, that they shouldn't be able to express any struggle or discontentment because they did this to themselves. Basically put up and shut up. That's not okay.

Calling someone a lunatic is offensive, btw. If you don't understand why maybe Google it.

Birdsbirdsbirds · 17/03/2023 23:36

It's also abhorrent to "excuse" your own views, by telling someone else they have "unresolved issues" when you have absolutely 0 experience, understanding, knowledge or empathy. The fact you've had to do that, shows that you know your opinions probably aren't very kind.

Eyerollcentral · 17/03/2023 23:41

Birdsbirdsbirds · 17/03/2023 23:36

It's also abhorrent to "excuse" your own views, by telling someone else they have "unresolved issues" when you have absolutely 0 experience, understanding, knowledge or empathy. The fact you've had to do that, shows that you know your opinions probably aren't very kind.

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AngeloMysterioso · 17/03/2023 23:44

Ok enough is enough.

I didn’t start this thread to bash stepmums or to throw disgusting personal insults but that is what some people are doing, and a few in particular appear to have turned it into a one on one mud slinging contest. I’ve reported my OP and asked MNHQ to delete the whole thread.

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minou123 · 17/03/2023 23:53

AngeloMysterioso · 17/03/2023 23:44

Ok enough is enough.

I didn’t start this thread to bash stepmums or to throw disgusting personal insults but that is what some people are doing, and a few in particular appear to have turned it into a one on one mud slinging contest. I’ve reported my OP and asked MNHQ to delete the whole thread.

That's exactly what you did.

You started a thread bashing a stepmum for something she didn't say. And now your surprised other posters will bash stepmums and say deeply offensive things about her.

What did you expect?

Lolabear38 · 17/03/2023 23:56

minou123 · 17/03/2023 23:53

That's exactly what you did.

You started a thread bashing a stepmum for something she didn't say. And now your surprised other posters will bash stepmums and say deeply offensive things about her.

What did you expect?

This. 💯 . You set the tone in your first post @AngeloMysterioso , it’s all very well and good trying to take a moral high ground now that the damage has been done, it’s a shame you didn’t think this through before posting. Hopefully you will next time.

AngeloMysterioso · 18/03/2023 00:04

Not in one single post have I insulted her or said anything offensive about her. Not once.

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minou123 · 18/03/2023 00:14

Yes you have.

Just the thread title alone is insulting and offensive.

To be gobsmacked at Kate Ferdinand complaining about not getting a Mother’s Day card from her then-boyfriend Rio’s children

It's not true. That's not what happened. It's not the whole story.
That's pretty insulting and offensive.

AngeloMysterioso · 18/03/2023 00:32

Hardly. If a man buys his wife a card on Mother’s Day, it’s usually on behalf of the children. Otherwise why buy it on Mother’s Day as opposed to any other day? and if it did <have> to be on Mother’s Day, which she said herself she was expecting, why did she decide that she was filling the role of “mother” after living with the children six months?! After being in a relationship with their father for barely a year?
I think she’s been incredibly insensitive. That’s the worst I’ve said about her.

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Lolabear38 · 18/03/2023 03:18

AngeloMysterioso · 18/03/2023 00:32

Hardly. If a man buys his wife a card on Mother’s Day, it’s usually on behalf of the children. Otherwise why buy it on Mother’s Day as opposed to any other day? and if it did <have> to be on Mother’s Day, which she said herself she was expecting, why did she decide that she was filling the role of “mother” after living with the children six months?! After being in a relationship with their father for barely a year?
I think she’s been incredibly insensitive. That’s the worst I’ve said about her.

@AngeloMysterioso Really, all that matters is what her husband and step-children/ children think of her. Rio Ferdinand clearly has no issue with it considering he’s subsequently married her, the children - from what I can tell - seem happy to have her in the family also. I’m not sure what your motivation was in starting this thread but it does seem like your intention was so start an unkind debate about her? While you may not have said anything openly defamatory about her, you’ve certainly fanned the flames by starting this thread with the tone you did in the first place.

KeHuyWinner · 18/03/2023 04:13

Look, you don’t like her OP so you twisted something, acted outraged and started a thread to bash a woman. It worked, the misogynists and the nastiness came out.

Hopefully you don't chomp at the bit in future to misrepresent something so you can anonymously have a go at a stranger. It doesn't make you look good.

ImAGoodPerson · 18/03/2023 08:07

AngeloMysterioso · 18/03/2023 00:04

Not in one single post have I insulted her or said anything offensive about her. Not once.

But you did purposely omit a very important part of her quote to make her sound awful.

She may be a horrible person, I don't know her personally so can't say however she didn't actually say what you have said she did as you have taken one part of it totally out of context and ignored the fact that this has been pointed out to you.

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