To applaud Gary Lineker, Alan Shearer and Ian Wright, and think Suella Braverman is looking like a fool for not even understanding the comment

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Lineker called the immigration policy cruel, and compared the language and attitude of the government to 1930s Germany.

I hundred percent agree with him

Braverman started denying that anything that is happening in UK is comparable to the holocaust

She is spectacularly missing the point. The holocaust didn't happen in the 1930s

What happened in the 1930s was the slow and steady build up of racism and aggression and hate, that resulted in the holocaust in the 1940s

And the noises coming out of the government are very much like 1930s nazis

For those of you that don't have any interest in Match of the Day, Gary Lineker, the main presenter, has been suspended, in spite of being a sports commentator, and NOT a news reader or involved in current affairs programming, and NOT bound by the impartiality clause, and his two top fellow presenters have refused to appear without him

So either the BBC bosses (tory appointees) have scored a spectacular own goal,(unintended pun) in trying to supress Lineker's opinions, and turning them into world wide headlines,

OR!

Maybe they are secretly working against the government by choosing a course of action that will actually make the tories look like complete fools, while pretending to support them!

People can't debate on here properly as some just think that shouting and swearing is getting your point across so other people don't bother and it just becomes an echo chamber. It's just the same old, same old.

What this thread really demonstrates is that some posters do not understand Lineker's tweet in the first instance 😶

It's not possible to apply for asylum from outside the UK, therefore there is no safe route at present.

If it were, people wouldn't need to risk their lives crossing the channel in RIBs or, like my friend, travel across Europe and then cross the channel by ferry in the boot of a car after being tortured in a Turkish prison for 2 weeks.

Great posts but at present in the U.K. it is impossible to have calm discussion about cultural or religious differences.

Apparently the Govt line this morning is "its a matter for the BBC and Lineker" lol!
That should always have been the line.

Rowing back!

Thankyou
I live in Dover and we really really need help
Homes, schools, doctors you name it we have to queue for it and sometimes it’s just too late.

And as pointed out below we are a tolerant country. More tolerant than France.

We also need legal framework for dealing with boats outside safe routes or it’ll just be both.

The BBC pull Lineker but meanwhile apparently not showing a Richard Attenborough documentary for fear of upsetting people with right wing views/climate scepticism:

www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/showbiz-tv/bbc-pulls-david-attenborough-wild-26444427

www.bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints/make-a-complaint#/Complaint

Make a formal complaint here

Dehumanising people is definitely the start of a very dangerous road, even if it seems innocuous to people at the start.

I live there 6 months of the year, i'd say in part thats true, in others it is not, rural France is pretty conservative but in the towns and cities far more tolerant.

So go to Cornwall and find "tolerance" of anyone with a different skin colour then compare to London?

The big problem is many migrants do not speak French but they do English.

In France you cannot detain migrants like UK can, thats not tolerance, its prison without trial.

France is not trying to send any migrant, regardless of status, to an unsafe country nor are they seeking to leave the ECHR.

The conditions migrants who drop of the radar in the UK is quite shocking.

Even more scary than the Lineker debacle, thats manipulating the news.

Will we get a free and fair General Election from the BBC?

I’m glad Lineker has gone. What a relief. Not because of his views as such, but because he’s paid way too much and has got way too big for his boots.

That other idiot who was virtue signalling at the World Cup? I’m glad he’s gone even more. He was obviously making hollow political statements just to feel good about himself and probably doesn’t have even a fraction of the brain capacity to deconstruct and understand the issues he was talking about. Daft little man.

It all loops back to the fact that football has got captured by the radical left wing social justice warriors. It started with taking the knee, which just turned out to be the most unbelievable example of political bullying, peer pressure and performance activism that has ever occurred.

It can almost be guaranteed they’ll be hoisting out the bloody trans flag soon and dancing around that in some self serving celebration of supporting the oppressed.

All the while, of course, living their lives of utmost comfort and privilege, taking far more than their fair share and only giving back political pontifications and hot air in return.

Hopefully that’ll be the back of them.

i'd say in part thats true, in others it is not, rural France is pretty conservative but in the towns and cities far more tolerant.

So the friend the pp mentioned or those who feel similar should move to a more tolerant part of France. Since it does exist. Escaping intolerance via boat isn’t necessary.

Wild Isles episode 6 will be on bbc iplayer
i know that’s not the point
but just in case you wanted it.

Would it be a bad thing to get Lineker, shearer etc replaced ?

By who?

Nobody would agree to even cover this weekend.

I’m not personally affected by the migrant crisis (there are none where I live and I am not a U.K. taxpayer so I have no skin in the game) but can see that many are, especially from working class families who have to compete for housing and school places and are suffering from less and less money being spent on overstretched public services.

A lot of the migrants are economic migrants and not fleeing war or persecution. I think there is a massive difference between the Nazis persecuting Jews and others in the places where they were settled vs the U.K. refusing to take in and pay for endless people who have no real connections to the U.K. and arrive illegally. Just think how much better the millions of pounds spent on hotels every day could be spent…

’m glad Lineker has gone. What a relief. Not because of his views as such, but because he’s paid way too much and has got way too big for his boots.

Sorry to disappoint you. He's not gone YET. Matters are being discussed, he hasn't been sacked.

Well done to all those who have stood by Gary and his comment.

All the while, of course, living their lives of utmost comfort and privilege, taking far more than their fair share and only giving back political pontifications and hot air in return.

You do know don't you that Gary Linekar has taken a Syrian refugee into his home? And before that a refugee from a province in Pakistan.

He is a sports commentator not a political or news presenter. The comment was also on his private account.

Yep, I mean, look at how much good the £350m a week going into the NHS rather than the EU is doing.

The BBC must have a contractual basis to act, it includes SM private accounts and all those who freelance too

Anycrispsleft
I live in Germany and we welcomed around 800,000 refugees in 2015 and guess what nobody had to give up their spare room. They were housed in portakabins round my way and the kids were taken in to school and the adults did German courses. They all eventually moved out of the portakabins and got jobs and flats

They might all have flats, but approximately half of refugees had jobs after five years - therefore Germany doesn't appear to be as good at integration as you claim;
EU-fact check
^In an interview with the German newspaper Handelsblatt, that was published on 7 October 2020 on the website of the Düsseldorfer media outlet, Daniel Terzenbach, board member of the Federal Employment Agency (Bundesagentur für Arbeit), claimed, that after about five years, approximately half of refugees are employed. The claim turns out to be mostly true.

eufactcheck.eu/factcheck/mostly-true-after-about-five-years-approximately-half-of-refugees-are-employed/

I think Brexit was a disaster and people weren’t really told the true consequences (and I probably would have voted for it had I been eligible).

Yes, the amounts being spent on the NHS are eye watering yet it is still in crisis but I don’t know what the answer to that one is.

He was talking about Germany in the 1930s. Didn’t really need to use the word Nazi.