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For using a foodbank when my family are relatively well off ?

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Notaskingmuch · 08/03/2023 05:18

But won’t help me ?

I was told yesterday by someone I know that ‘you know foodbanks are for people with no other choice and no support at all not ones who could get help from family’

The thing is my family WONT help me.

I can’t explain to people my family dynamics, how dm is narcissistic and I’m the scapegoat. How she’s happy to have both my dsis round for regular get together a where they have nice meals or go out to restaurants but I’m not invited , that they get invited round for afternoon tea but I don’t ….etc etc

Once recently when I was desperate I asked could I borrow a few staple food items and got told ‘I don’t have much here sorry’ on another occasion I asked could I borrow £20 to do a basic shop and was told ‘sorry no-you need to support yourself’ (from someone who owns their home outright , has a DP who still works and earns well and who regularly treats her other 2 daughters)

So we use a food bank, well 2 actually as one is church run and unlimited and the other is via a voucher and limited.

i can’t bring myself to have to explain as I’m exhausted and wish she had kept her comment to herself. I can see it looks like somethings off as she knows my family but I just don’t want to be judged she clearly thinks I’m a CF though .

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ladykale · 08/03/2023 14:06

RomeoOscarXrayIndigoEcho · 08/03/2023 14:02

@ladykale but don't you see it would be better to use the (I believe always underspent) welfare budget than food banks?

More money in the OPs pocket, means more money spent in the community.

Using a food bank is a donation and doesn't get more money into the community.

UC is a passport benefit which gives access to other allowances that can help keep people afloat. Free school meals, a uniform allowance both of which might really help the OP's family.

Once things are on an even keel they can work to get off UC.

No I don't think OP should work only 16 hours to get extra benefits no when she js able to do more.

This comment shows me that there's no point reasoning with most on this thread, as the attitude of entitlement is so ingrained.

Welfare budget isn't underspent - we're living in times where social services and the NHS, and schools are on their knees as are many public services. There is no money tree, those working pay high taxes which go to those working only 16 hours to make sure they get a top up.

Ridiculous.

MangoPi · 08/03/2023 14:07

the nastiness on here is not necessary.

There is no doubt that some milk the system, foodbanks/benefits, whatever, but I really don't see that the OP has done anything wrong.

She is unable to work more hours at the moment due to unforeseen circumstances but has said she hopes this will improve later on in the year and is intending to pick her hours up then,

Her husband is working the hours he can around childcare (ridiculously expensive to outsource depending on age).

We cannot predict the things that are going to happen to us, it's so silly to suggest that your circumstances at the time of having children will always be the same.

Maybe feel grateful that you're not in the position of needing them because you really don't know what is round the corner.

Springchicken75 · 08/03/2023 14:07

ladykale · 08/03/2023 14:06

No I don't think OP should work only 16 hours to get extra benefits no when she js able to do more.

This comment shows me that there's no point reasoning with most on this thread, as the attitude of entitlement is so ingrained.

Welfare budget isn't underspent - we're living in times where social services and the NHS, and schools are on their knees as are many public services. There is no money tree, those working pay high taxes which go to those working only 16 hours to make sure they get a top up.

Ridiculous.

Agreed. It’s infuriating but she has the support of the others doing the same.

ladykale · 08/03/2023 14:08

cadburyegg · 08/03/2023 14:05

And a here we go, a suggestion where OP reduces hours to 16 so that those of us killing ourselves to provide for our families and being bled dry by tax can top up OP's family and their lifestyle.

You can work more hours than 16 and be entitled to benefits anyway. I'm just about to increase my hours to 30 and I'll still be entitled to some UC. (Single parent though) I'm not sure why people think you can't work more than 16 hours, it's a common misconception made on here by people with limited or outdated knowledge of the system

It's not a misconception. I used to run a business where lots of workers would try to limit their hours as they said it would affect their UC top ups. So there is clearly some perverse incentive in the system which means people don't necessarily work the full hours they could because they will overall lose out

Birdsbirdsbirds · 08/03/2023 14:08

Springchicken75 · 08/03/2023 14:07

Agreed. It’s infuriating but she has the support of the others doing the same.

Im not "doing the same" I have two jobs. I don't get any benefits. I only have one child. Done all the "right things" in your very shit book.

I fully support op. And I do not stand with small minded people like you.

IDontWantToBeAPie · 08/03/2023 14:09

'If I could get help from elsewhere I would, but thanks'

Just repeat that and try not to let it bother you.

Springchicken75 · 08/03/2023 14:09

Birdsbirdsbirds · 08/03/2023 14:08

Im not "doing the same" I have two jobs. I don't get any benefits. I only have one child. Done all the "right things" in your very shit book.

I fully support op. And I do not stand with small minded people like you.

OKA a mug

cadburyegg · 08/03/2023 14:10

OP YANBU and sorry you have had such a hard time.

It is not easy to just use more childcare or get more hours. I'm moving to another job shortly with more hours partly because my current job wouldnt increase my hours. I work in a professional job too. And finding childcare is difficult sometimes even without the money issue. My 2 dc at are after school club now but they were on the waiting list for 18 months. Breakfast club is even busier. Lots of childminders are fully booked for over a year. Holiday clubs aren't an issue here as there is a local one that my dc fortunately both enjoy and doesn't get too busy but in some areas don't exist at all.

letthemalldoone · 08/03/2023 14:10

Springchicken75 · 08/03/2023 12:53

Yes, I do and always have. We also do the collections outside the supermarkets four times a year and a Christmas fundraiser. I am cross with op, her dh should not be working part time

You again - why are you so consistently horrible to other people? Do you get a kick out of it? I am cross with you - who the hell do you think you are to be cross with someone you don't know?

I think you may be a tad over-invested.

Springchicken75 · 08/03/2023 14:10

If you can’t afford childcare then why have two children?

rahrahsa · 08/03/2023 14:11

Onefootinthegroove · 08/03/2023 09:26

And yet again a thread about the cost of living crisis and it's very real effects swarming with incredulous posters who have no idea what it's like to be struggling. So again the deserving/ undeserving poor rhetoric.
They both work. He works condensed hours . She works according to her consultants advice . Her family could help, but dont. And yet somehow some posters are twisting this as them being feckless and scroungers. Un fucking believable.

There by the grace of God, go I.

No one knows when things are going to go wrong for them. Ill health, redundancy, bereavement can strike all of us. No one is immune, no matter how wealthy or qualified. Even if you have savings, they are rarely enough to sustain you forever. Everything can come crashing down in a heartbeat. It's best to remember that when judging others!

OP, you are doing all you can, in difficult circumstances. I'm sorry your family are so cruel.

Birdsbirdsbirds · 08/03/2023 14:11

Springchicken75 · 08/03/2023 14:09

OKA a mug

How am I a mug?

Does being a twat on the internet change the benefits system? Does it change the prohibitive cost of childcare? Does it do anything constructive at all?

No.

I'm not being a mug. I'm being a working mother who knows how hard it is.

DumpedinKilburn · 08/03/2023 14:11

I think the OP had two children when times were better. Circumstances change!

Springchicken75 · 08/03/2023 14:11

letthemalldoone · 08/03/2023 14:10

You again - why are you so consistently horrible to other people? Do you get a kick out of it? I am cross with you - who the hell do you think you are to be cross with someone you don't know?

I think you may be a tad over-invested.

I am paying the bill pal, like others, I am fully entitled to call it out when it’s being abused.

letthemalldoone · 08/03/2023 14:11

Springchicken75 · 08/03/2023 14:10

If you can’t afford childcare then why have two children?

OMG - this is such a dense response - are they supposed to fucking send them back? Wise up!!

cadburyegg · 08/03/2023 14:12

Springchicken75 · 08/03/2023 14:10

If you can’t afford childcare then why have two children?

Did you miss the part where she said she had an accident and therefore her working hours are now limited???

Have some empathy ffs

letthemalldoone · 08/03/2023 14:12

Springchicken75 · 08/03/2023 14:11

I am paying the bill pal, like others, I am fully entitled to call it out when it’s being abused.

I suggest you shove your begrudged alleged 'donations' somewhere the sun don't shine.

Incredible!!

Springchicken75 · 08/03/2023 14:12

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ilovesooty · 08/03/2023 14:13

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So it's feckless to be recovering from an accident and be working in line with the recommendations of a medical consultant?

Doesthepopeshitinthewoods · 08/03/2023 14:13

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I don’t know why I’m surprised but you’re becoming really nasty now. I hope MNHQ have a word.

ThreeblackCats · 08/03/2023 14:13

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RomeoOscarXrayIndigoEcho · 08/03/2023 14:14

When I was a child the welfare state (was different and it) supported my family through a rough patch (loss of a business, bankruptcy, death of a parent) and that investment in my family paid off

We got off benefits by 1987 and none of us have needed them since.

So if there's a short term need for a long term gain I'm all for it.

OPs not playing the system. She just wants to feed her family.

Plus the OP has a plan to improve her family financial circumstances.

zorgoid · 08/03/2023 14:15

ilovesooty · 08/03/2023 14:13

So it's feckless to be recovering from an accident and be working in line with the recommendations of a medical consultant?

Aparantly so!

Ridiculous isn't it

Cottagecheeseisnotcheese · 08/03/2023 14:15

@Springchicken75 childcare for 2 can easily be more than what you actually earn if you work 8 hours you often need childcare for 10 hours, if you have 2 children that is 20 hours of childcare to be paid from 8 hours wages, if there is not a substantial difference then there is not much point working the extra hours,
her consultant said she was not to work more hours and she can only work these hours if she rests between times so her DH needs to be home when she is working or earning more than enough to pay for childcare, childcare is generally not available outside of 8-6

it is not a lifestyle choice to be involved in an accident which stops you from working for months and months, they had the children before accident and were OK for money before that

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