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to think that seeing as it’s hard to dispose of a body…

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OxygenthiefexH · 06/03/2023 11:28

I need to find a better way to manage my ex.

He is horrible.

briefly the 3 SEN teens live with me, he sees them 3 nights a month and he moved over an hour away and expects me to meet half way. He refuses to drive to our town as he says that the local police are in my pocket and I could get him arrested. He said that.

He messes me about constantly by refusing to reply to emails about contact, he pays maintenance but nothing else on our consent order as everything has to be agreed in advance, and he won’t agree to anything because he knows I pay anyway. As I type I’m at a private assessment for adhd as the local wait list is 2 years. He won’t pay for any of it and yet agrees it’s necessary.

The really crux is comms though and the only way to get ANY response is via the kids’ phones, which puts them in an awkward position. So how do I manage comms? For example confirming WHEN he will be at the meeting point for the kids, if he would swap one day so I get them for my birthday etc and vice versa.

what do I do if he won’t reply until the last minute, and even then it’s only via the kids, who are that point are crawling the walls at the uncertainty!

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OxygenthiefexH · 14/03/2023 23:58

My thinking is, I just want him to step up, not be a dick with the kids and pay his half. I can challenge the consent order but that will cost me more, so if he actually engages then so much the better. And if he doesn’t then he can explain to the court why that was, and it’ll cost him more. And he literally only cares about £££.

If he doesn’t agree to any of this I’m going to have to lawyer up again and not be bullied. This is literally all about his control of me.

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OxygenthiefexH · 15/03/2023 00:01

Also re costs, we get £500 towards mediation via the legal aid scheme, as very cleverly mentioned by PP. Thankyou!

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AnotherCoolName · 15/03/2023 00:04

Nah, I'd just find a way to dispose....

BlackeyedSusan · 15/03/2023 01:57

Justanoldnana · 06/03/2023 15:28

My DH and I often discuss the best way to dispose of a dead body, no-one in particular I hasten to add, just for fun on a long drive. 🙂
My favourite so far is the "inaccessible roadside woodland" option.

Imagine a quiet road next to a heavily wooded area which runs downhill to even denser woodland, and which has signs saying it's maintained by the local council. Dump the body, rolled in an old carpet, down the slope and check it's covered by the overgrown shrubbery and then forget about it in the absolute certainty that the Council will never send anyone to check the woodland or cut back the ground cover. 😁

Alternatively, late at night, a heavy duty wood chipper facing into a fast flowing river works equally well and would literally take 5 minutes max.

Your ex is a bully and an absolute dick; tell him if he wants to see his children he picks them up. His problem, not yours. <<<hug>>>

Pollen and soil would give you away. (Watched too many crime programs)

OxygenthiefexH · 17/03/2023 06:10

I’ve woken up thinking that there really is very little I can do.

The mediation company wrote to him and he emailed me to say he had blocked them, he doesn’t see what issues there are, and by involving mediation I am simply posturing about going to court, and therefore basically “bring it the fuck on.”

I have tried and begged to get him to negotiate and step up but his hatred for me is greater than his ability to see that this is about the kids, not me or him.

don’t know what to do now.

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SoonToBeQueenCamilla · 17/03/2023 08:36

You are right, he doesn’t care about the kids, he only cares about punishing you.

Do the kids want to see him ? Or is it you who wants him to see the kids and so you bend over backwards trying to make this happen ?

Or are you just doing these things ( like telling him about parents evening and driving them to his house) because you have a court order that says you have to do it ?

Im trying to understand why you are doing all this stuff for him. Sorry if you explained upthread and I missed it.

Because no one - not you or the kids or the court can make him see them when he doesn’t want To. So there’s no point in you taking him to court to in an effort to make him see his kids .

SoonToBeQueenCamilla · 17/03/2023 08:38

I assume you have a detailed file with all this information . A timeline of the contacts and what happened, copies of all his emails and screen shots of tests, like the ones he sends to the kids phones .

OxygenthiefexH · 17/03/2023 09:07

Yes I’ve got records of everything.

im doing it because despite him being a nob, they love him. And I believe they should have other male role models and he does love them, he just also hates me, and is a bit shit. Also and possibly more importantly I need a break. It is all on me, and it feels grossly unfair that he could step up and isn’t. I’ll feel like I’ve let the kids down if I don’t push as hard as I can, despite my own disgust of him, this is for them. I feel so lost when they get stuck with science homework, for example, and I know it’s stuff he can do in his sleep. They deserve better. And I can do better if I get a bit of respite too.

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AcrossthePond55 · 17/03/2023 11:48

don’t know what to do now.

@OxygenthiefexH

Now, you see a solicitor and, if advised to, you go to court. If you don't, he will know for sure that he can do whatever he likes and although you may bluster at him, you will actually do nothing. He can keep the house, he can keep his money and you will do nothing.

You can't make him be more involved. But it's quite possible you can make him pay the money he owes which will go some way in smoothing your parenting path by providing a little cushion against extra expenses.

AcrossthePond55 · 17/03/2023 11:55

Forgot to add.......

he does love them, he just also hates me,

The sad thing is that he obviously hates you more than he loves them. That is a sure sign of a shit parent. My friend absolutely hated her ex (he cheated), but she gritted her teeth to coparent, because she loved her children more.

JanglyBeads · 17/03/2023 11:56

I'm sorry but you just need to begin to accept that you maybe won't get a break, and they won't have help with those things that he could easily provide.

Focus on the benefits to you and to them of having them all the time, and the wonderful things I'm sure you can give them/ help them with.

I wouldn't bother going to court about contact.

JanglyBeads · 17/03/2023 11:57

Yes I'd question how much he truly loves them and therefore how much real benefit they'll get from seeing him

SoonToBeQueenCamilla · 17/03/2023 12:37

OxygenthiefexH · 17/03/2023 09:07

Yes I’ve got records of everything.

im doing it because despite him being a nob, they love him. And I believe they should have other male role models and he does love them, he just also hates me, and is a bit shit. Also and possibly more importantly I need a break. It is all on me, and it feels grossly unfair that he could step up and isn’t. I’ll feel like I’ve let the kids down if I don’t push as hard as I can, despite my own disgust of him, this is for them. I feel so lost when they get stuck with science homework, for example, and I know it’s stuff he can do in his sleep. They deserve better. And I can do better if I get a bit of respite too.

Ok I 100% get this. My kids have an equally shit father.

But your problem is that you want him to see the kids more than he wants to see them and he KNOWS this. So it’s become a control battle - he is doing all this because he enjoys upsetting you MUCH more than he wants to see his kids.

As a PP said, he hates you more than he loves them. That’s why he’s happy to involve them and manipulate them by using them to send texts - so he can prove to the kids that he is right and you and wrong.

Im afraid you need to accept that you can’t win this control game. You can’t make him see his kids. The court can’t make him see his kids.

So unless all these things you are doing ( meeting him half way etc ) and court mandated then you need to stop. Just drop the rope.

Send him an email saying that the current system isn’t working and lay out what you are proposing instead. Or better still ask him what he proposes. Tell him that meeting halfway doesn’t work for the kids .

Id run it by the experts here on Mn first. Ideally you’d use a lawyer but I know thats expensive.

Make sure its very polite and reasonable and talks about the welfare of the children and NOTHING about what suits you eg you need a break , you can’t make plans for the weekend

All comms need to go via you and not the kids. Tell him you won’t respond via them and stop doing so. This is a reasonable request - I assume he has your phone and email.

If he chooses not to do that then that’s up to him , but there will be no contact.

Don’t tell the kids what the arrangement is until he has phoned you to confirm he is on his way. Otherwise its too distressing for the children because he lets them down.

He needs to pick them from your house. His police paranoia isn't reasonable..

Or you can arrange to meet as some public place , like MacDonalds or a shopping centre . . But you don't tell the kids that you are going until he has confirmed that he is there( assuming you chose somewhere within a 20 min journey, so he needs to wait 30 mins or so ).

If he leaves before you get there then then at least you have tried. That will two Reasonable child centred options you have tried which he has refused.

Or he needs to pick them up from school on his nights. They don’t need any stuff as he will have their clothes and toiletries etc at his .

If you want to do half the driving it would be better that he takes them to his house for the weekend and then you collect them ( having phoned the kids first to check they are at his house ).

This meeting half way thing is just a tool for him to mess you about.

Im afraid you also need to stop trying to make him co - parents eg trying to get his to agree to the assessment. You don't need his permission and he’s never going to pay for anything that you want so you might as well forget it.

Of course it’s unfair. Of course the kids deserve better . But you can’t make him a better person . The more you push him on this, the more he is pulling back just to spite you.

You have taken on about 90% of the responsibility to make contact happen. You need to step right back and let him do the work iIf he wants to see them.

Always be polite in writing but don’t solve his problems .

OxygenthiefexH · 17/03/2023 19:18

I don’t think I have it in me to be so restrained. And it also feels then like he’s won. Everything carries on as is, with a couple of tweaks. The kids still have a disengaged shit father and I’m still picking up the costs of everything and all the mental load. What a fucking shameful disgrace he is.

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OxygenthiefexH · 17/03/2023 19:26

Whoa. He just upped the ante even more by blocking my email. So he now has no way of communicating with me except via the kids’ phones.

What a cunt.

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LittleBlueBrioTrain · 17/03/2023 19:34

OxygenthiefexH · 17/03/2023 19:26

Whoa. He just upped the ante even more by blocking my email. So he now has no way of communicating with me except via the kids’ phones.

What a cunt.

What a shame that you now have to communicate via his workplace as he's keft you no other option

Somanyquestionstoaskaboutthis · 17/03/2023 19:42

LittleBlueBrioTrain · 17/03/2023 19:34

What a shame that you now have to communicate via his workplace as he's keft you no other option

Definitely do this. Do not let him use your dc to communicate to. You need to be really strong on this. If he messages them to tell you something ignore it, someone with more knowledge will come on to tell you the best ways to handle what you say to dc about it and how they reply. I presume dc wouldn’t be happy to block him?

SchoolQuestionnaire · 17/03/2023 19:57

LittleBlueBrioTrain · 17/03/2023 19:34

What a shame that you now have to communicate via his workplace as he's keft you no other option

This.

Stop protecting him, let his colleagues see what an absolute knobber he is.

SoonToBeQueenCamilla · 17/03/2023 22:27

OxygenthiefexH · 17/03/2023 19:26

Whoa. He just upped the ante even more by blocking my email. So he now has no way of communicating with me except via the kids’ phones.

What a cunt.

Keep a copy of the blocked receipt.

Don’t answer any message that come via your children. If he wants to see them he needs to communicate directly with you, as you are the parent with whom they reside.

If the kids ask you anything , just keep saying to then “ your father has my email and phone number, he needs to contact me direct “.

Do NOT contract him via his workplace, unless it’s a life and death emergency. this will make you seem crazy - remember he’s told everyone at his work how awful you are and that you won’t let him see his kids. Now you are harassing him at work for money / whatever.

Let him contact you by email and your own phone .

If he loves his kids as much as you say, he will do so. What you are asking is entirely reasonable and in the best interests of the children . Which is why you are asking of course.

SoonToBeQueenCamilla · 17/03/2023 22:30

OxygenthiefexH · 17/03/2023 19:18

I don’t think I have it in me to be so restrained. And it also feels then like he’s won. Everything carries on as is, with a couple of tweaks. The kids still have a disengaged shit father and I’m still picking up the costs of everything and all the mental load. What a fucking shameful disgrace he is.

Yes of course he’s won in his own eyes.

Except you have your kids. And now sadly they will learn the truth about him. Which was always going to happen at some time, you can’t protect them forever .

Devoutspoken · 17/03/2023 22:31

I would disengage and try to live a full life without him involved and stop thinking and talking about murdering him

JanglyBeads · 17/03/2023 23:26

Winning on the grounds of being such a sh*t is never truly winning though. He'll know that deep down, at least at some point.

Are you in touch with his family?

ThinWomansBrain · 17/03/2023 23:31

if you don't live near pigs but live near polar bears...
feed him polar bear liver, extremely toxic.

OxygenthiefexH · 18/03/2023 11:16

My old old thread was bumped today, so here is the delightful background…

www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/3702687-Can-someone-properly-explain-why-my-DH-thinks-this?page=1

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KTheGrey · 18/03/2023 12:07

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